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FlemGem (1297 D)
07 Dec 12 UTC
So I have this huge addition to my family coming in.....
Actually she was born a week ago, but in the spirit of the meme of the day I'd like to announce the birth of my daughter Keilah Rose. 9lbs 13.5oz, 20.25 inches long, cutest thing I've seen since, well, the last time we had a baby. I'm one seriously happy dad.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
08 Dec 12 UTC
Replacement needed for high quality World game
Frozen-Antarctica is in a decent position: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=103915
Express your interest and if you pass the smell test you will be PMed the password.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
21 Nov 12 UTC
Triathlon Round 3
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rosaville (2507 D)
08 Dec 12 UTC
Don't Want to be Falsely Accusing of Multi-ing
My brother is joining and it may look like I am multi accounting ...
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krellin (80 DX)
07 Dec 12 UTC
Lest We Forget...
December 7, 1941 - Pearl Harbor was attacked...

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krellin (80 DX)
04 Dec 12 UTC
The Evil Rich
If it is so evil to be "rich" and we must punish them and take a higher % of their salary away from them because the "have too much"...and we love illegal aliens and want to give them amnesty, and they really have nothing...then shouldn't we *all* be giving up our wealth. Compared to *global* standards, we are *all* repulsively rich. Such Hypocrisy! DISCUSS.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
05 Dec 12 UTC
Oldest Person Dies
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/04/us/georgia-oldest-person-dies/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

It's worth pointing out the oldest people because they have their tips and tricks, but they also have some genetic distinction about them that makes them live for what seems like forever. I'd hate to have the title of oldest person. RIP nonetheless...
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krellin (80 DX)
04 Dec 12 UTC
CoD Black Ops II
I love it...anyone else playing Live? Turns out my 13 year old daughter is a stone cold *killer*. I'm so proud of her!!! :)
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Zardoz2525 (255 D)
08 Dec 12 UTC
Program bug?
In World Diplomacy game http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=101672 a fleet retreat was allowed from Vos to DdU in Spring 2013. Is this somehow correct? It certainly seems wrong.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
06 Dec 12 UTC
So I have this huge bonus coming in and am thinking about what to do with it...
Take home will be at least $4500 in bonus plus my usual take home pay for the mid month check...
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krellin (80 DX)
07 Dec 12 UTC
Breasts - the fine art of staring...
http://guycodeblog.mtv.com/2012/08/13/women-stare-at-cleavage/

This makes me happy. I'm smiling. Are you?
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Jynx (100 D)
08 Dec 12 UTC
split the difference?
I see there are 5, 7, and 17 player maps here. Is there any chance a map in the 10-13 player range might be added?
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damian (675 D)
07 Dec 12 UTC
Student Puppy Room
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/11/29/ns-dog-therapy-university.html
...
Discuss
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krellin (80 DX)
07 Dec 12 UTC
Bending Over...
I've got this fungus between my toes, but I can't reach past my ankles any more.

Anyone wanna come over tonight and scrape my feet clean?
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alberto (100 D)
21 Nov 12 UTC
comunidad de webdiplomacy en español
Aqui teneis la primera comunidad hispana de Diplomacy, donde puedes jugar online con gente de todo el mundo en tu mismo idioma.
<a href="http://www.webdiplomacy.com.es" > Diplomacy Español </a>
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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Dec 12 UTC
So I have this huge boost to my GPA coming in
I don't usually talk about my academics on here, but I just rocked a grad-level final exam and one of LSU's hardest classes on the same day, with insomnia and sinuses.

So this actually is meaningful, let's hear some things you've been proud of yourself for succeeding at doing!
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krellin (80 DX)
07 Dec 12 UTC
Confession Time
I must confess...bo_sox and JamieUK are my illegitimate children. I had to unleash that burden from my soul.

Please share your own vile confession. (Yes...I don't even know how to spell my child's fake name. Curses upon me...)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
07 Dec 12 UTC
Krellin is my daddy!
I'm so happy that I finally learned who my real father is! He obviously loves me because he took the liberty to spell my name correctly.
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
05 Dec 12 UTC
Marks out of ten? Eleven!
They got away with it (and they really shouldn't have). Brilliant.

http://order-order.com/2012/12/05/kate-prank-call-from-the-queen/
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krellin (80 DX)
07 Dec 12 UTC
And The Zombie Plague Begins...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244272/Florida-officials-consider-releasing-genetically-modified-non-biting-mosquitoes-battle-dengue-fever.html

It's just a bad idea...
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
07 Dec 12 UTC
LUSTHOG SQUAD
Lest we forget.
There are rules.
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dubmdell (556 D)
07 Dec 12 UTC
2WL, I got you a present
http://imgur.com/CbHjY.png
http://i.imgur.com/jAb9p.png
http://i.imgur.com/pbiWl.png
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President Eden (2750 D)
30 Nov 12 UTC
North Korea discovers ancient unicorn lair, still more legitimate than USA
http://gizmodo.com/5964719/north-korean-archeologist-discover-the-lair-of-king-tongmyongs-unicorn-no-joke
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semck83 (229 D(B))
01 Dec 12 UTC
(Here's a nice discussion of the unicorn issue. The earlier-linked page was an abbreviated excerpt:

http://books.google.com/books?id=_1fdxxS26RYC&lpg=PP1&dq=in%20the%20footsteps%20of%20the%20kuzari%20unicorns&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false

See chapter 2, starting on p. 43.

And with that, I'll stop derailing).
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g9Dd0A-A3n-V0UML31SPpJA-iZ4g

For reference
semck83 (229 D(B))
01 Dec 12 UTC
I'm curious, putin -- do you take the article in OP to be playful, like the Santa Clause articles I mentioned earlier?

This isn't an attack. I'm just curious on your take. I'm certainly less familiar with North Korean culture.
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
I don't know what to make of it. It is two paragraphs long. My best guess is they believe they found something which indicates the ancient capital city was in Pyongyang, whether the legendary animal is real or not isn't indicated in the press release. All that is really said is they found a rock with "unicorn lair" written on it.
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Dec 12 UTC
The very last line of the article Putin posted...

"Chan later accepted that what she saw in Pyongyang "might not be representative of the rest of the country."

No fucking kidding!
dubmdell (556 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
Tomorrow, if this thread still popular (you're gonna be popular!), I will give my SOBER opinion or Greek and Hebrew, since I'm, you know, LANGANGES FUCK ALL Y'ALL MOBILE ALL CAPS DON'T AUTO CORRECT #FUCKGHUG #FUCKTHUCY #FUCKSENCK #FUCKPUTIN # NOTNECESSARILY IN THAT LRDER.
semck83 (229 D(B))
01 Dec 12 UTC
Well, I must admit, I'd think it was pretty cool if somebody found a site believed 1000 years ago to be Merlin's tomb*, even though I don't believe Merlin existed (at least in anything like his literary form).

*Note: Of course, 1000 years ago, the Merlin myth hadn't yet developed, or at least, not in any recognizeable form, so it would also be extremely surprising. But this was just an example.
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
Her observations are more scientific than any of the bs western & South Korean NGOs publish about it, from sources that don't even live in the country. She admits she didn't see every corner of the DPRK. Nonetheless by far the largest population center and a rural hospital see visited impressed her. Worst place on earth, right.
dubmdell (556 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
If I'm in a game with you, don't expect a response tonight. Especially if its a gunboat hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lol rotflmao
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Dec 12 UTC
There are supposed sites of the final resting place of Noah's Ark.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100428-noahs-ark-found-in-turkey-science-religion-culture/

And no, this is not an endorsement of either the "discovery" or the myth (although I believe a localized flood got exaggerated into the entire earth cause it was the earth as far as the people at the time knew it).
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Dec 12 UTC
Right Putin. She saw one city and a nearby "rural" hospital.
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
By 'nearby' you mean one hour's drive, yes. I don't know why you put "rural" in quotes. Circleville is less than one hour from Columbus. I'd call that rural. Pyongyang contains about 10% of the population of the DPRK.
FlemGem (1297 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
"Chan later accepted that what she saw in Pyongyang "might not be representative of the rest of the country."

Hmmm.
I'd be interested to know if Chan was allowed to travel freely without government minders, and if she was allowed to talk to ordinary people or just "senior ministers".
redhouse1938 (429 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
So I just woke up and I'm going to post stuff here
redhouse1938 (429 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
The first line of defense of Putin here was that Christians also have unicorns in their bible, and then that started to overwhelm the conversation. Now, my question is, Putin33, for people like you and me, who don't believe in an awful lot of things, what's the new line of defense? I thought communism was all about rationality, but this story seems to describe what I believe is another attempt by the communist party of that joke country North Korea to indoctrinate their people with the notion that in fact, communism is like a religion you have to believe in.
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
The 'new' line of defense is that the DPRK is influenced primarily by Juche, which is the application of Marxism-Leninism to North Korea's conditions. Juche emphasizes complete ideological and political independence. This stems from the DPRK being leery about excessive dependence on leadership from either Moscow or Beijing and desire to avoid the factionalism that characterized life during the anti-Japanese struggle. In order to do that, the leadership (first Kim Il Sung) had to develop an entirely internal legitimacy for DPRK - which lends itself easily to be colored by nationalism.

One can argue that ideologically, Juche has proven to be more durable than governments who went out of their way to abide by the line set by Moscow or Beijing.

But I mean, you weren't interested in a serious answer to your loaded question, now were you?
redhouse1938 (429 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
Was I?
Putin33 (111 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
Remember kids, the billions upon billions that are spent upon capitalist advertising coupled with the perennial parades of consumerist "holidays", whitewashed history books, and endless praise of the glory of 'free markets' is not indoctrination, it's just your ruling class making friendly suggestions.
Jamiet99uk (873 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
"The first line of defense of Putin here was that Christians also have unicorns in their bible, and then that started to overwhelm the conversation"

Will people please stop crediting Putin with derailing this thread? It was me who introduced the "unicorns in the bible" tangent.

I DEMAND CREDIT
Draugnar (0 DX)
01 Dec 12 UTC
I will consider you request for credit. Please send me your government ID number, home address, date of birth, city of birth, and mother's maiden name so that I might run a credit report and determine how much I can ste... er... loan to you.
dubmdell (556 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
Okay, first, I sent the article to my friend who taught ESL in Korea. I asked for no response, but this is what she told me anyway (whatever it is worth):
"Koguryo was founded in 37 BC "by Chumong and a band of his followers from Puyo," and there is no mention of unicorns... However the early powerful proto-Korean states (like Koguryo) were centered to the north and I think Pyongyang was actually the capital of Koguryo."

Alright, onto Greek and Hebrew. First, our Greek text of the OT (the LXX) is /older/ than our Hebrew text (the Masoretic). The Masoretic is, in part, itself a translation. There were a number of books composed in Aramaic originally. So, not only is the Hebrew younger, it is also not really the "Hebrew" text (in a pure sense; of course, the Greek is no more pure than it is, but if it's a matter of "original," we don't have those in either language).

Second, copyists sometimes made errors, which is where the infamous "variant readings" come from. This happens as misread-copy mistakes and misheard-copy mistakes (if someone was listening and copying rather than reading and copying), not to mention, of course, simple miswritten-copy mistakes. There are several versions of the Septuagint (three to seven, depending on who you ask, none 100% complete texts, a couple not surviving except in quotes, which may also be a translation of another text, again, depending on who you ask). These versions do not all agree, and in some cases, folks like Origin /edited/ the text to make it make more sense to him (so what's to stop a copyist from doing so? or a rabbi? or a different church father?). This happened all the time in the ancient world. It's the same reason we have variant readings of Homer, Aristotle, Aeschylus, etc.

Third, whether the original text meant unicorn (as a horse with a horn) or not, the only extant English word (at the time of the KJV) to express "a one-horned animal" /was/ unicorn. (Interestingly, in French, Latin unicorn > Old French une icorne "beast" > le icorne > l'icorne.) Translation then did not have the same rigor it does today. You must recall that there were plenty of popular reasons to translate it as unicorn, not the least of which is, μονόκερως literally translated means "one-horned." Some scholars dismiss the Greek because other texts "retain" the Hebrew word, but we do not have the original, and thus, this claim is only a feel-good dismissal. The truth is that we have the Greek, it's older than the Masoretic text, and we cannot pretend to have the original Hebrew or Aramaic texts when we do not. Yes, we have /fragments/ of some older texts than the LXX, but these do not enlighten the current discussion.

Finally, I tend to agree with semck that the unicorn of the KJV is a rhinoceros. This alignment has a problem - that rhinoceros is a perfectly good Greek word where they instead used monokeros (note rhino "nose" + keros "horn" and mono "one" + keros "horn"). It could be that rhinoceros was a later invention, a replacement word, if you will, and that they originally called them monokeros (well, after calling them "wild asses," from the Ctesias except quoted in semck's book link). The fact that romanticism had developed and glorified the idea of the unicorn (with striking parallels to the Spear of Longinus) as a horse with one horn, the translation of monokeros as unicorn is not a mistranslation, but a misunderstanding, and a persistent one at that (http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v2/n1/unicorns-in-bible). So while I might agree that monokeros refers to the rhinokeros, I do note the larger problem that both words are Greek. I will check my etymological dictionaries on Monday when I go back to the office. Admittedly, this question has piqued my academic interests. :)

I hope this helps. If I need to cite anything in particular or offer links to anything you wish to know more about, I will happily do so, in thread or PM.
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
01 Dec 12 UTC
On a related note, Kim Jong-un is the leading vote getter for Time's Person of the Year:

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2128881_2129111_2129112,00.html
redhouse1938 (429 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
How am I not on that list?
2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
01 Dec 12 UTC
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.
dubmdell (556 D)
03 Dec 12 UTC
Bump for Bo, he's late to the party
Draugnar (0 DX)
03 Dec 12 UTC
@dubm - I thought I was the one said rhino...
dubmdell (556 D)
03 Dec 12 UTC
Oh, that's very possible. I skimmed the arguments and assumed the pro-common sense posts were semck and the others were Putin. I really didn't check too closely at the players involved. My apologies on the omission. I am in agreement with you as well.
Draugnar (0 DX)
03 Dec 12 UTC
It's OK. It is just my favorite jab at the militant athiests I run into in life who try that bullshit argument.
Maniac (189 D(B))
03 Dec 12 UTC
I believe the unicorn story. It's far more believable than this report about Kim Jung-il...

In 1994, Pyongyang media reported that Kim Jong-il shot an amazing 11 holes-in-one to achieve an unprecedented 38-under-par game on a regulation 18-hole golf course - on his first try at golf.

Reports say each of his 17 bodyguards verified the record-breaking feat.
Draugnar (0 DX)
03 Dec 12 UTC
Hitting a hole in one is easy. Chip shot gets caught in a hat by a man running in place who then takes off and runs down to the hole where he tilts the hat in. Technically the ball never hit the ground and the player on took one swing. Imagine how well the caddy would get tipped if hewas good enough at catching to give the player an 18 on 18 holes. :-)

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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
06 Dec 12 UTC
The Dutch love The Killers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20627393

If you're thinking of killing try the Netherlands, they're very kind to killers....
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President Eden (2750 D)
01 Dec 12 UTC
Championship Weekend
College football's winding down with some good games this weekend. MAC Championship was crazy, thanks to the Huskies for saving the Orange Bowl. Since the bowl season is fast approaching, who do you think goes BCS bowling, and where's your team going for the bowl season?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
06 Dec 12 UTC
So I have this Obi-rant coming on and i'm thinking about what to do with it...
Suggestions? :p
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ghug (5068 D(B))
05 Dec 12 UTC
Winners & Drawers EoG
I guess it's not really much of an EoG, as we cancelled in 1901, but I'm curious to see who everyone was and willing to try a rematch if the rest of you are.

I was Russia.
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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
06 Dec 12 UTC
So I have this huge boner coming in and am thinking about what to do with it...
Any ideas?
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The Hanged Man (4160 D(G))
06 Dec 12 UTC
So I have this huge bonus coming in and am thinking about what to do with it...
Take home this week will be at least $450000 in bonus plus my usual take home pay for the mid month check...
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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Dec 12 UTC
ulytau what does your initials stands four
^^
im curius
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