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Also, you should tell her about your great skills.

You know, like numchuk skills, bow hunting skills, computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills.

No girl, or indeed any person, is under an obligation to give you their attention. Of course, that doesn't mean they shouldn't. Learn your lesson, move on and try again. Or you could just walk up to her and whip it out.

@CM

First, I want to thank you. This has been the best thread I've read in months.

Second, please don't listen to anything krelin or maple say.

LOL Mapleleaf love that movie. At least I think that is from Napoleon Dynamite could be wrong.

@abge: Your welcome. I muted krellin, but Maple's posts are kinda funny, so I don't think I'm gonna mute him. yet.

Lol CM. Don't let them get too much inside your head. Some people have forgotten what it's like to go to highschool and/or didn't go after texting and facebook were invented.

How you felt is understandable and it's also understandable why you did what you did, but do take away from this that you should never act like that again for your own good.

You want girls? Get confidence in yourself. You do that, and then talk to them, so that they know who you are, and the rest will come naturally... unless you are blind to cues that people are attracted to you.

How to get self-confidence: do shit you're good at a lot. And don't go around telling people about it, just do it and know that you kill bitchez at what you do. Also, commence daily physical activity - this is proven to boost your self-esteem, and makes you look good.

Do these things and then casually ask a girl out to coffee. Conversate thoughtfully with this woman and she will begin to like you in many cases. If not, you had a cup of coffee with a hot girl. If she says no entirely, you know not to waste any more time and/or now have a friend who is a chick.

High school is actually one of the easiest times to pick up girls, because there are not many consequences - your ass will be out of there soon anyway. Also try to meet girls outside school - no consequences there.

I recommend taking this summer to start lifting weights and jogging. You will feel like a god, I guarantee it.

I agree to everything Thucy just said, but since I got out of highschool just one year ago, I want to add my own advice.

So I had a similar blunder with a girl around freshman year. Less on the angry side and more on the creepy side, but best thing is to just write it off. You'll never have a chance with her again. As to her friends, I can't say. I honestly never became great friends with this girl's friends, but that was by chance, not by choice.

Now I was horrible - still am - at picking up signs that a girl liked me. So, more often than not, the girl came to me lol. The trick is to not go after the ultra-attractive girls at first. Go for their less-attractive-but-still-good-looking friends. That was how I got my first girlfriend. We then broke up, and she hooked me up with her ultra-attractive friend (which sadly didn't last long....they tend to go with the ultra-douchebag guys). My advice to you after that is don't be afraid to date a grade below you. Two is pushing it for high school imo. My ex-gf of 2 years was a grade below me. But when you go a grade below, make sure you trade up in looks lol (anticipating comments on how shallow this all is).

But most of all, there are two things I want to tell you. Find girls who you have stuff in common. Every one of my girlfriends was in band with me, most I had at least one class with, some were on my bus, etc. The more you have in common, the easier it is to converse. Second thing, increase the amount of girls who you are friends with. If they are your friends as well as friends of this girl you're after, they will act all giddy like hs girls and try to hook you up. Literally happened with all 4 of my hs relationships. Just beware of the "friend zone" with girls you may want to date. The "friend zone" is a horrible, horrible thing that I am trapped in too many times, and there is no means of escape that I no of :(

Other than that, happy hunting and don't get too bummed if girls ignore you. It happens, so just brush it off.

I agree with Thucy's advice.

I'd also recommend you'd read the first letter here.
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=4642012
Seeing as your name is Conservative Man, Dan Savage may not be your favourite human being, but this is genuinely good advice. I wish I'd had it when I was a teenager. And yeah, he is a little harsh on teenage boys in it, but he's pretty rude to everyone so don't take it personally. That's kind of his schtick. And whatever you do, don't read the other letters, I guarantee you, you will be offended. But yeah, the first one, totally applicable.
Probably NSFW by the way? I don't really know, I work mostly in theatre, I'm not good at gauging what is considered SFW by normal standards.

Thanks for the advice Thucy. One thing though:
"unless you are blind to cues that people are attracted to you." I do in fact have asperger's syndrome. While I'm not blind to those kinds of cues, I am pretty bad at picking them up.

Also, I've sorta started lifing weights, I just keep forgetting to do it, lol.

@ goldfinger
When I read "My advice to you after that is don't be afraid to date a grade below you." I thought you meant grade in terms of attractiveness or desirability. Rather than like school grade. And I thought, wow what a douche.
Then I realized what you meant and corrected myself, you weren't a douche after all.
Then I got to "But when you go a grade below, make sure you trade up in looks lol" and I realized I was correct in the first place.
Excellent. Well done.

@Mafia: Thanks for the link. I didn't particularly find anything offensive in the letter. One thing I did find interesting was he said to masturbate in moderation, don't do it more than 10 times a day. 10 times! I do it 3-4 times and I thought that was a lot.

3-4 times a day? Holy shit, man

@goldfinger: Thanks for your advice too. There's actually a girl who goes to my church who I find really attractive who is a grade younger than me. Sadly, lately she either hasn't been coming to church or had been going to a different service, so I haven't seen her in amonth and a half. I don't even remember exactly what she looks like. Next time I see her I'll try to talk to her.

haha well Mafia, the truth's truth. If you're gonna date someone younger than you, you might as well date a hot someone younger than you lol

are you saying that's a lot? I mean, it is summer break, I don't have much to do....

and oh, one more thing CM. I don't know what grade you're in, but girls change.....like a lot. Over the 6 year period between freshman HS and Sophomore in college. Not attractive girls all of a sudden become bombshells. Girls that you always wanted to date become pretty trashy and unappealing. Not saying you should do it, but if one were to bet on a girl who would develop very nicely, in a few years you'll love the results. But I mean it all depends on what kind of relationship you're looking at. I date girls without an end date in mind. If things are going well, I'd date them indefinitely and eventually marry them. If you're looking to break up with the girl when you go to college, you don't have to care about what she'll look like in the future. Wow, I'm starting to look really shallow. For the record, looks aren't everything with me. Intellect means a lot, and I have a very narrow pool of girls I'd like to date who meant my "qualifications" aka, not being an airhead and not being a lazy ass.

At the risk of sounding like a victorian puritan, warning of the health risks associated with excessive masturbation, uhhh if you keep going at that rate you might end up with a Urinary Tract Infection (it's not a super high risk, but it's also not unheard of either). It's not a serious condition, you just need some antibiotics and it'll go away in a day or so, but it'll sure as hell feel serious when you first get it. Seriously. Not fun.
Just a heads up.

Well, for me that's a lot that's all I'm gonna say. Play Call of Duty, or whatever game it is you prefer. Get a soccer match going with your friends. One of my friends now rock-climbs all the time. Just make activities for yourself. Or, play live games of diplomacy!

"If things are going well, I'd date them indefinitely and eventually marry them." - This sentence implies you've dated and eventually married several women. So I guess what I'm wondering is, are you a multiple divorcee or a serial bigamist?

lol @ Mafia. Actually, Mafia things ended up not going well in all of them. My first gf I didn't really have an emotional connection with, purely physical. So no good. the second and third ones dumped me. The two year relationship was weird......she and I dumped each other and got back together several times, but she couldn't handle it when I went to college and she was a senior in hs. So yeah. My loophole in that one was "IF things are going well"

Oh and that rap from the link Santa Clausowitz posted? I have to say that is probably the most misguided romantic gesture since John Hinkley decided that just sending Jodi Foster some flowers might not do the trick.

@ goldfinger, I knew what you meant, it just amused me.

@goldfinger and mafia: Thanks for your help so far. I'm sorry I have to sort of vent on here. I used to have a therapist, but she got laid off.

btw, I'm in between 9th and 10th grade

Oh man, don't worry about it. I thought you were older for a sec. At your age I had barely just gotten past my girlfriend, and was in the process of being dumped by the 2nd one after dating for 3 weeks and not even kissing. Really, you should NOT be worried about anything. Your time will come. But I always like to give advice :)

Oh christ this thread is fubar. Anyway, how are you a 'conservative man' at age 14-15?

Lol dude try to keep it at 2 and under a day. And take breaks of several days at a time occasionally. You need to be healthy but not overworked.

Lmao. I can't believe we're all sitting around advising you but hell we all like to say what we wish someone had told us.

Yeah dude don't just "kinda" lift weights. Go for it - get a goal, like "I want to squat my body weight" or something, join a gym, go the whole 9.

I really don't think you'll regret it. There is a certain confidence that immediately springs from walking down the street knowing you are stronger than most of the people you pass.