@ Babak:
Back to your intent for this thread...
From the first vid:
"Corporations do not seek consent to extract wealth from the people and the earth.."
What does this even mean? Is the occupy movement suggesting that corporations should subject their business model to the wishes of the consumers of their products? Explain to me how that would work, cause I don't see that working in any universe.. Consumers always want more (product, features, environmental responsibility, corporate accountability for bad product, etc.) while demanding to paying less. That's a 100% receipe for bankruptcy of every corporation and buisness. What consent is the occupy crowd suggesting needs to be given?
Extract wealth? In general, a corporation doesn't come up to a person, fleece that person for their wealth, and move on to the next person. Usually the person gets some sort of product in return, and usually the person initiates the transaction. (I say 'in general' and 'usually' because there are exceptions like GM and taxpayer bailout money, which I agree is despicable, and you have no argument from me there). Is the occupy crowd suggesting that they have a right to obtain products without giving corporations anything in return? Also, how do you get the consent of the Earth to extract wealth from it?
"No true democracy is attainable when the process is determined by economic power"
How do you separate economic power/interest/status from government/democratic process? It would seem to me that laws about fair pay, equality in the workplace, union rights to negotiate better pay and working conditions, the right to own property, social welfare programs, etc. are all concerned with economic power and are thus preventing the attainment of true democracy, so what is the occupy crowd suggesting the process should be if economic power cannot be a factor in democratic government?
"Corporations which place profit over people, self interest over justice, and oppression over equality run our goverments"
I will agree that corporate lobbying is a huge detriment to our governmental process, but government taxation and regulation of corporations forces them to look out for their own interests, through lobbying, lawyers, tax loopholes, and corporate welfare bailouts. What is the occupy crowd's solution to this problem? Strip corporations of any rights to make a profit? Government run the corporations? (seems that's been tried and failed, and is called communism)
I haven't heard a suggestion from the occupy crowd that "removes" corporate interest from the government and allows government to "function properly" without the meddling of corporations.
The video then proceeds to name a long list of corporate greivances that lumps all corporations together under the ambiguous term "they" as if every corporation or business was guilty of every grievance.
Guilt by association appears to be the fate of every person trying to make a living in this world as a small businessman who owns a corporation. Sounds like true justice and democracy at work to me...
Doctor Who: the New or the Old orOld or Old or Old.....???
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