Here putin, let me help your gay komrade in charge of the propaganda ministry,
Here's what to type in the google search bar:
Percent Anglo-Saxons + puritans

Yeah somehow I knew you'd use the black church. Conservatives love hiding behind liberal and/or minority churches to prove their religion isn't wretched. Funny that white Christians don't frequent them but love pointing to them as evidence of how 'fun' their religion is.

Putin has an irrational hate-boner for anything that is accepted normal social convention, most likely because Putin himself is not a socially acceptable person in real life, and thus, in order to assuage his self-loathing for being such an outsider he in turn attacks anything that most people accept as normal.

It is evident in pretty much everything Putin ever says.

Think about it...examine this guys hatreds...and consider the psychological state that must behind such a hate-filled person.

Almost makes you feel sorry for him...almost. But I don't.

So much hate. How does he go through life? Who'd want to be around him?

I guess by putin logic, anyone who sounds "dreary" (because komrades must always be happy) or even serious when encountered with serious matters/teachings is dreary. Then the whole population of earth could be considered dreary and sad and miserable. Tell me putin, on your visit to orthodox Serbia, how many people, plain religious folk were dreary? None. Asseipe

I find it hilarious that three people who do nothing but cuss people out, insult people, use crude language, and in general act like insufferable boors to anyone who disagrees with them even remotely, have taken time to make lectures on their so-called unbounded conviviality and simultaneous scoldings about being hateful.

Probably he hangs around the autistic kids cause they can't realize he's pathetic. Sad.

"So much hate. How does he go through life? Who'd want to be around him?"

Who'd want to be around a perpetually grandstanding ex-frat boy who is so desperate for people to think he is one of them and like him?

Have a merry Christmas later this year, Putin33. That's what you really need.

Please continue showing the world how you're not hateful, ILN, Invictus, Krellin. You're doing a wonderful job of it.

"Everyone posting in this thread is an idiot, including me."

Well...the OP was a pleasant song with a countdown clock to what 99% of people regard as a happy, festive time. I'm going to post a pleasant song daily for those that like to be happy to enjoy. Those who wallow in self-misery and hate <cough...cough...Putin...cough...> will become irrationally angry at others joy.

"Have a merry Christmas later this year, Putin33. That's what you really need."

I will. Thanks. Even though you're a two-faced scoundrel who wishes nothing but ill will on other people Thanks anyway.

Putin, there's a difference between spewing hate (like you) in diplomatic terms with no cuss, as opposed to people that just get sick of your hatred and call you out in ugly ways like cussing. Perhaps I got a little worked up.

I'd prefer a light hearted man who is direct, straight forward, and cares about WHAT he says and not HOW he says it, over a hateful, diplomatic ass like you who cares more about crafting his words more than what he's actually conveying with them.

"I will. Thanks. Even though you're a two-faced scoundrel who wishes nothing but ill will on other people Thanks anyway. "

Wow....you truly are a hate-filled, self-loathing person. Do you lash out at all the people in the teacher's lounge, too? Or do you keep your head down, scowl and grumble when you are around the pleasant humans, and then listen to them laughing at you when you leave?

Tell us about a day in the hate-filled life of Putin. You know...that hate-filled life where you are surrounded with those children that you have told use are the soul source of all problems in the schools. Tell us Putin...enlighten us as to what a pleasant chap you are day to day...

Well, I wish you best of luck putin, its a Sunday after all today, and I sinned by getting so worked up at your crap. God bless.

Right, 50th post where you call me hateful while spewing this kind of uncontrolled rage. Beautiful. Keep it coming.

Putin33, please don't irritate these people more than with one post explaining your views, and perhaps an explanation when they get attacked. More is unnecessary. Also, ILN? Please shut the fuck up. "child hating rapist misinformer lying (half lying) piece of shit" is not appropriate, at least until you prove that all of those are true. Putin33 might not always be entirely sound, but he is not to be called this kind of thing.
Also, whether the current feast is religious or not depends on whether you view it as such or not, so Putin33 can celebrate a germanic folk tradition, and you others can just celebrate the birth of your savior. I will be celebrating what Krellin delightfully described as "Greed Fest", but with me it also extends to the food, and the decorations on the tree (we make gingerbread cookies).

Huh, somehow I missed a couple pages of shout-fest. Anyway, what I said pretty much stands. Sorry, ILN, that language was inappropriate. The others, please stop shouting at each other, the fact that I missed half the discussion and the context hasn't changed is a good sign you're getting nowhere.

"its a Sunday after all today, and I sinned by getting so worked up at your crap. God bless."

LOL! Yes, the Christian doctrine seems to allow for their cult members to verbally abuse others on their so-called 'holy day of rest', so long as you use fake niceties afterwards and beg for forgiveness (not to the victims, but to some priest naturally).

A perfect religion for the fake and the two-faced.

Putin, attacks on the character of Christianity make no sense. Christianity is a religion which favors charity, forgiveness, and a whole host of nice things. Some Christians do not favor these things, but the religion is sound.

"Also, ILN? Please shut the fuck up. "child hating rapist misinformer lying (half lying) piece of shit" is not appropriate, at least until you prove that all of those are true."

Actually, phil, this asserion **IS** true, in Putin's world view. You see, in countless conversation when Putin is attacking Christians, he will oft-times find one example of behavior he finds offensive...one example by one person will do, you see...and then he will claim that *all* of Christianity is guilty for the same actions of the one individual. One = All, in Putin's world view.

So...Putin is a self-professed public school educator. So it is very simple to find examples of rape by public school teachers. Putin has also professed on these forums that the students are the sole source of problems in public schools. So.....put it all together (one teacher is a rapist = all teachers are rapists) and, BY PUTIN'S WORLD VIEW....you get...:

Putin is a child hating rapist misinformer lying piece of shit.

It is quite fitting, and it is *indisputable* by Putin's own logic, **since** we are applying the indictment to Putin himself.

Ah, I understand. Well, I apologize again. Very well made point. I accept your argument until Putin recants(not gonna happen).

That's not what I said, and I'm not a public school teacher. Everything Krellin says about me is a lie. He lies for a living.

Krellin magically doesn't believe in generalizations or talking about tendencies except when it comes to his own behavior, in which he lets it rip and always bashes liberals writ large, communists writ large, teachers writ large, trade unionists writ large, government employees writ large, black people writ large. Naturally, he also always calls everyone a hypocrite, in fact his sentences can be summed as a noun, a verb, and either a cuss word or 'hypocrite', in a sad attempt to deflect from his own habits.

What you accuse me of doing, I'm in fact doing the opposite. You want to portray Christianity is nice because a handful of Christians might be nice, and so the entire religion gets credit for the actions of a few. Nevermind Christian support for slavery on the whole, we have to point out the one liberal church that might have been opposed. Nevermind Christian support for war on the whole, we have to point out Martin Luther King. Nevermind that opposition to gay rights is directly proportional and correlated with religious belief, we have to point out the one church that supports gay rights. You are the ones using individuals as a way to deflect from the general behavior of the adherents of the religion. And never ever would consider doing such a thing when it comes to members of Congress, members of the Communist Party, or any other group you dislike. But Christianity gets a pass.

We went from being an enlightened, forward thinking civilization, who valued knowledge, rationality and education above all else under the Hellenists, to be a civilization of obscurantism mysticism, superstition-ridden civilization that plunged into the Dark Ages, thanks to Christianity. But we're to believe the "religion is sound".

Sorry, no.

I actually heard someone playing Christmas music in their car today. I'm sure a fairy dies whenever anyone plays a Christmas song before December.

Out of interest, what the hell have you lot been talking about these last couple of pages?

I said Christmas is a Germanic folk tradition and that inspired endless rage. You'd think Lucifer himself came here and ate a baby, the way people are carrying on.

I judge Christianity on it's merits as a concept. I do not judge the people, since I haven't met them.

Also, Christianity is in no way responsible for the Dark Ages. The Polynesian War, the Macedonian conquest and the Roman conquest are entirely responsible for that. The downfall of Hellenic civilization wasn't nearly as great as you described it, since most people imagine Athens. Other cities weren't as well off. The downfall also happened somewhere around 700-400 years before Christianity. The Dark Ages were a result of barbarians moving into a poorly defended Western Roman Empire and destroying places of knowledge, making education hard and useless. It was a result of a complete lack of centralization which prevented major progress in science and infrastructure. The Muslim world had centralization from taking over the bureaucratic apparatus of the Sassanid Empire which it had taken over, and also the major cities in the Levant and Egypt. The Muslim world also furthered science and technology as well as keeping it up. Then the Crusades came up, and the Europeans destroyed a lot of that knowledge, but translated and kept some of it, leading to the end of the so-called Dark Ages.

By the way, yes, you started by saying Christmas is a Germanic folk tradition. You continued by insulting Christianity. You are partially responsible.

"Putin is a child hating rapist misinformer lying piece of shit. "

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I said it wasn't a happy religion, and the clowns here obliged to prove it by being nasty.

"Macedonian conquest and the Roman conquest are entirely responsible for that"?

??? The Macedonian conquest in particular was responsible for the spread of Hellenism throughout the Mediterranean and West Asia. That's why historians consider Alexander's death the beginning of the Hellenistic era, when Koine Greek was the lingua franca.

"The downfall also happened somewhere around 700-400 years before Christianity. "

Not talking about the downfall of Athens, talking about the downfall of Greek civilization/Hellenism.

"The Dark Ages were a result of barbarians moving into a poorly defended Western Roman Empire and destroying places of knowledge, making education hard and useless. It was a result of a complete lack of centralization which prevented major progress in science and infrastructure. "

The Byzantine Empire lasted until the 1400s and was centralized along Asiatic lines. What is the excuse for the lack of progress there?

" The Muslim world also furthered science and technology as well as keeping it up."

Not really. Greek speakers living in their lands translated Greek texts. In practice they repressed Greek ideas and didn't build off of them.

"Then the Crusades came up, and the Europeans destroyed a lot of that knowledge"

The Muslims themselves, or the Mongols, destroyed that knowledge. The Muslims laid waste to the Persian libraries, and the Mongols destroyed the Mesopotamian libraries.