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Socrates Dissatisfied (1727 D)
20 Aug 13 UTC
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What do you mean by 'Democracy'?
Inspired by conversation with YJ I have taken upon myself the task of educating and discussing the concept of 'Democracy' with the community here. So, what do you mean by 'Democracy'? and conversely what things stop a system being 'Democratic'?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
20 Aug 13 UTC
Forgetting with Cannabis
Interesting article: www.alternet.org/drugs/why-pot-makes-you-feel-good?akid=10821.1072812.UM2PRc&rd=1&src=newsletter884304&t=12&paging=off
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duckofspades (170 D)
20 Aug 13 UTC
Disbanding units due to no orders.
If a player has units to destroy and he does not submit orders for it. How does the game choose which units are destroyed?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
12 Aug 13 UTC
UK v Spain
Pick a side people it looks like there could be some strongly worded letters issued.
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
20 Aug 13 UTC
Sticking your head in a particle accelerator
http://gizmodo.com/what-happens-when-you-stick-your-head-into-a-particle-a-1171981874

Hey krellin you live anywhere near CERN?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
19 Aug 13 UTC
On "Elysium" and the Current Trend in "Message Movies/Shows/Books/Etc."
I'm curious if anyone here's seen the film, and if so, what they thought. I haven't...I've read the plot synopsis (though really I figured out most of it from the trailers that ran before Star Trek: Into Darkness) and read/seen reviews...and it seems like the kind if "message movie" I've grown to hate, namely, one with all the subtlety of a sledge hammer. If you've seen the film--fair or foul assessment? And what do you think of this trend in moves/books/etc.?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
20 Aug 13 UTC
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whose blowshio is he knew
RIP boloshoi
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
20 Aug 13 UTC
One of my favorite clips ever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML3qYHWRIZk
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
17 Aug 13 UTC
Things that piss you off that shouldn't......
....... when I'm entering an address on the internet and it asks for country of residence I want to select England so why can I only enter United Kingdom, do people in France write EU as their country of residence, it is utter bollocks.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
17 Aug 13 UTC
Sorry, I should have said, where <DATE> is the date on which your leave to enter the UK would expire. Doh.
philcore (317 D(S))
17 Aug 13 UTC
Really? Well damn. My Mexico stamp says Mexico and the state in Mexico (Raja California Sur in my case) I figured it would be similar there.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
17 Aug 13 UTC
Nope. I suppose the British authorities think that you'd know where Heathrow is.

Which other parts of the UK are you visiting apart from London?
spyman (424 D(G))
17 Aug 13 UTC
It pisses me off that Planet Earth isn't an option. I consider myself a citizen of the world ;)
Draugnar (0 DX)
17 Aug 13 UTC
It pisses me off that Universe isn't there as I consider myself one with the universe. :-)
Draugnar (0 DX)
17 Aug 13 UTC
Or maybe, in my truly Zen moments, it doesn't piss me off because I am one with the passport stamp and one with the website, therefore I would be pissed off at myself. ;-D
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
17 Aug 13 UTC
When you return to your car and a traffic warden says I have to give you the ticket now because I've already started writing it ...... wtf !!
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
17 Aug 13 UTC
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Trying to explain queueing to Russians
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
17 Aug 13 UTC
People who stop and ask for directions, then when you have finished explaining they go the opposite way
philcore (317 D(S))
17 Aug 13 UTC
@jamie: 2 nights in London, 1 night in Bath, 1 night in Hollyhead. That's it for the UK, from there we'll take the ferry from there to Dublin (F @ Irish sea, convoy Tourist from Wales to Dublin) and make our way to Shannon via Ashford Castle and Dingle Bay over the next 5 days.
philcore (317 D(S))
17 Aug 13 UTC
@nigee, you probably have that look about you that makes people think "this guy is fucking with me, I should probably do exactly the opposite of what he says"
steephie22 (182 D(S))
18 Aug 13 UTC
I suppose I'm not exactly too pissed about it but it's rather annoying when someone asks if it's okay to date my ex-girlfriend when they're already dating and he isn't going to stop whatever I say :P
Maniac (189 D(B))
18 Aug 13 UTC
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Having to decide between two equally horrific options

1/ go shopping for socks
2/ waste endless days trying to find two matching socks just because people who obviously hate me (friends and relatives) think it's amusing to buy me socks with days of the week on them (in different colours) I've given up matching the day of the week to the day printed on the sock (as I've only been called out on this twice) but I can't wear a tueday sock with a Friday sock, perhaps if they were printed in the same colour I'd risk it, but I suspect that is why they don't.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
18 Aug 13 UTC
@hardcore - "this guy is fucking with me, I should probably do exactly the opposite of what he says"
Have you met my wife?
Mayonaisepot (471 D)
18 Aug 13 UTC
when I'm entering an address on the internet and it asks for country of residence I want to select Flanders so why can I only enter Belgium, do people in England write UK as their country of residence, it is utter bollocks.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
18 Aug 13 UTC
Exactly, to be fair for a lot of the US websites probably think the UK is close enough, why go into details, I think the whole GB vs UK thing is confusing for foreigners, why are we GB in the Olympics but UK on the internet?
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
18 Aug 13 UTC
I thing in the future to save any confusion dispense with country codes and just have GPS references.
Maniac (189 D(B))
18 Aug 13 UTC
I don't know why people get confused by the whole UK, GB, England thing...

The British Isles include Ireland but the British Islands doesn't. Ireland the Rugby Union Team includes Northern Ireland (which is sometimes called Ulster) but the Ireland Football (Soccer) Team doesn't. Wales was legally referred to as England from 1746 to 1967. Berwick-upon-Tweed has at one time or another being part of England and Scotland whilst still being part of the UK. Berwick continue to play in the Scottish Football league dispite being in England.

Whilst I can understand some foreigners getting a little confused by the UK, GB, British Isles, England thing, I can't forgive the British Civil Service who, by their oversight left Berwick-upon-Tweed at war with Russia for 113 years. Because of it's changing status between being within England and Scotland, Berwick was given a special mention in the declaration of the Crimean War against Russia which was signed in 1853 by 'Victoria, Queen of Great Britain, Ireland, Berwick-upon-Tweed and all British Dominions'. The Paris peace treaty signed in 1856 omitted any reference to Berwick-upon-Tweed so technically it was still at war. In 1966 this technically was rectified and a peace treaty between Berwick and Russia was signed. The Russians have slept soundly in their beds ever since.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
18 Aug 13 UTC
Sadly Maniac that's an urban myth. A fun one though. The Crimean War declaration doesn't actually mention Berwick-upon-Tweed. The London correspondent of Pravda stopped off in Berwick in 1966 and they signed a "peace treaty" as a bit of a laugh and to set up an amusing photo to put in the newspaper.
tendmote (100 D(B))
18 Aug 13 UTC
I get completely fed up when I see a form that says simply "county" on it, rather than "county or parish." In the United States of America (please don't call it simply "America") there are 50 States, and 48 of them are subdivided into counties. One (1), Louisiana, is subdivided into parishes. I've seen forms where it only asks what county you're in. Now, every single on of those times, I have been able to accurately answer that question, because I've never lived in Louisiana. I've never even been there, nor have I met anyone from there. So I've always lived in a county, as such. So I put, like the name of a county there, there. But what if I did live in a parish? Would I put county, "none"? It's all so unfurianting!

ALASKA DOESN'T EVEN HAVE COUNTIES. I MEAN SERIOUSLY, WHAT WOULD I DO IN THAT CASE? NBABAY PLEASE RESPOND DO YOU COPY OVER OVER
Hereward77 (930 D)
18 Aug 13 UTC
Here's one - a piece of software or website only offering English (US), as if that's the only country that speaks it.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
18 Aug 13 UTC
I don't think that's what it implies, you've got American English and British English. If you want to be completely correct you know what to do with certain spellings to make it US or UK. It's not totally irrelevant, or at least not in every meaning of that word :)
Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Aug 13 UTC
If you knew anything about locales and computers, you would know that EN-US is one locale and EN-GB is a another locale. So software offers the speicifc ones for which it has translations.
Hereward77 (930 D)
18 Aug 13 UTC
Ouch! Okay okay, it isn't as bad as I thought...

:P
Thucydides (864 D(B))
18 Aug 13 UTC
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oh come on. you live in the UK, that's the government that represents you at the UN.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
18 Aug 13 UTC
i might identify as texan before american but that doesn't mean the US isn't my country of residence on a form. where's your passport from, dude?
orathaic (1009 D(B))
19 Aug 13 UTC
Yes, scotland, england and the EU aren't members of the UN (though the EU may be getting special representation there) England is thus not a 'nation'.

More importantly it is not a nation by the standards of international mail delivery. (whoever or however they happen to be)

Also further to the difference between in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland (other than one being an independent republic) if you live in the North (or any other part of the UK) you probably refer to the Republic as 'the South' or Southern Ireland; but if you live in the Republic you almost always refer to it as Ireland, and rarely as 'the Republic' if you need to distinguish between the state and the island... (though the Republic only abandoned it's territorial claims to the North in 1998, with the Good Friday Agreement, which effectively saw the end of the troubles)

Also Ulster refers to one of the four provinces of Ireland (the island) whi h includes all of Northern Ireland (and it's six counties) along with three counties in the Republic (Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan)

Still, if you want to be English and NOT part of the UK then i'm sure there are some english republicans who want to get rid of the monarchy and establish a seperate English parliment. You'd probably be considered a successor state, and thus inherit the UK's permanent seat on the UN security council, and any other international obligations which the UK currently undertakes.

Fortunately for anyone with a Scottish vs English issue, there is an example of Ireland's breaking with the Union to follow. Currently as an EU citizen i would be entitled to vote in local and EU elections in any EU state i was residing. But as an Irish citizen, when i am resident in the UK i get to vote in national elections aswell (but not referenda) and vica-versa.

Keeping this relationship as it is, but extending it to Scotland (should it vote for independance) means that citizenship should be virtually no problem for engaging with democracy.

But the really important question is, what will the UK be if Scotland leaves? The United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland? Or The United Kingdom of Southern Britian and Northern Ireland??

EN-GB will remain the common language localisation option, and UK the abbrv of the nation (and postal code) while .uk remains the www TLD. scotland may have some trouble as .sc is the seychelles, .sd is Sudan, .sl is sierra leone. They might want to consider renaming the country (for marketting purposes) .ab is free if Alba was the desired name...
Hereward77 (930 D)
19 Aug 13 UTC
Yes, because Ireland is a utopia since it split from the UK. I'm not so sure it's a great model to follow. In a more severe depression than it's former state, had to be bailed out by it's former state and isn't really listened to in the circles of power.

Of course, being the massive Unionist (in the British sense, not Northern Irish sense) I am my opinion might be a teensy bit biased...
Octavious (2701 D)
19 Aug 13 UTC
I don't know, Hereward, Ireland has done well enough. I agree it would have been better off under as part of the Union, but it's been a success in its own right. Scotland would probably do OK on its own too, but the advantages to staying are far more than those of leaving. They won't leave, of course, because the Scots know a good thing when they see one. So do the Irish, and we really had to piss them off good and proper before they decided leaving was for the best.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
19 Aug 13 UTC
Well home rule being delayed until 1914 - and then 'until the end of the war' really pushed them out of the Union, public opinion in Ireland (except parts of Ulster) was entirely for something like the current devolution agreements until 1916; when the execution of the leaders of a minority republican group gave their cause a huge boost.

I mean, the sailing a gunship into dublin and shelling of the capital was all blamed on the republicans, pretty much UNTIL the execution of the leaders. (and the Army even thought they were being all nice about it, as they shot the republican leaders as a sign of respect - previous rebels had been hung as traitors, shooting was reserved for enemy soldiers.)

And being Irish (ie from the republic) I grew up with an almost automatic sense that the republicans in the north were right - it took a lot of thinking to get over that cultural bias. The current situation is ideal - effective independence with self-determination written into the law, so if they choose later they can.

As far as i'm concerned the only thing that NI should change right now is to join the Eurozone, and save the towns along the border from having constant gain and loss of business as the exchange rate determines where people go to shop...

As for scotland, of course all the same economic arguements about Britian not joining the Euro apply to Scotland leaving the Pound. Alex Salmon (who i heard speak in dublin a few years back) has a very good point about Scottish fishing rights being ignored because the UK doesn't have a significant fishing industry, so at an EU level Scottish inependence would increase representation of Scottish specific issues, (but i have to say, he's a very boring person to hear speak...) He definitely has a point, but the same would be true of any region which is part of a country but isn't homogeneous with that country - there will be SOME local concerns which get ignored.

@Hereward&Octavious, if you're both in favour of the Union with Scotland, might I ask the other question, how do you feel about the Monarchy? (and if you haven't seen this, watch it and tell me if it changes your mind: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhyYgnhhKFw )

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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
20 Aug 13 UTC
Are there preferred settings for live games?
So, I'd like to get a live game going, but nobody seems to be joining. Is it because there are preferred settings for live games, or is this just a bad time to start one?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
20 Aug 13 UTC
Top Ten Jokes at Edinburgh Fringe
The top 10 were:

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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
19 Aug 13 UTC
A Simple Question
Suppose we broke up into real-life nations based on that basic political spectrum test a lot of us just took, so there'd be a Nation of Krellin & Co., a Nation of Abgemacht and Associates from the Green Corner, etc. Aside from the fact every Green Corner citizen (I can't tell if your corner is blue or pruple, krellin--damn colorblindness!) would want to kill me...would this be for the better, Likes with Likes, or would this just lead to worse consequences?
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Octavious (2701 D)
19 Aug 13 UTC
And Now for Something Completely Different
http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-reasons-news-looks-worse-than-it-really-is/
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
17 Aug 13 UTC
Choosing the side of the secularists
There's a lot of turmoil in the Arab world at the moment. Many sides are combatting each other everywhere: sunni muslims, shii muslims, druzes, Coptic Christians, Israelis, Palestinians, military leaders and democratically elected ones.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
19 Aug 13 UTC
Not discussing an ongoing gunboat
No game/country ID so it's allowed

I am 1 turn away from getting my first solo win on this site. :)
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Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Aug 13 UTC
Talk about an odd but interesting movie...
I saw "Sucker Punch" finally this weekend. Pretty cool and way better than I expected. Anyone else have an opinion on this one?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
13 Aug 13 UTC
Modern Diplomacy variant map questions...
So, an actual Diplomacy thread here! I'm comparing the large map to the normal map and see a few differences that can make a *huge* difference in orders. I'll point them out one at a time inside.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
19 Aug 13 UTC
Alec Deacon, ignore him and die ......

http://www.myfamilysurvivalplan.com/author/admin/
http://backyardliberty.com/vsl/index_t.php
Don't miss 'How to escape a sinking car'
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SYnapse (0 DX)
19 Aug 13 UTC
Wiki article on diplomacy theory
I don't know enough about this and I could use some help

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/wiki/index.php?title=Concerning_Balance
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Aug 13 UTC
Mubarak To Be Freed
http://news.yahoo.com/lawyer-expects-egypts-mubarak-freed-week-104122670.html

Wonder what the military thinks about that.
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kapazunda (300 D)
19 Aug 13 UTC
LIVE - join for a little fun
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=124829
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dirge (768 D(B))
19 Aug 13 UTC
What's your political alignment?
Describe you political outlook using only the advanced D&D system of alignments, good/evil, lawful/chaotic, neutral.
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AviF (726 D)
18 Aug 13 UTC
New game
Anyone interested in a Full Press WTA game. I'm thinking 101 pot size but am flexible
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Aug 13 UTC
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THIS is what police should be
Courtesy of the Seattle Police Department: http://puu.sh/44wG5.png

Not blowing up flash bombs in your house over a little whiff of pot? Gotta give em props for that.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
17 Aug 13 UTC
Mods, please check email.
It has been a few hours and this is League business.
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krellin (80 DX)
18 Aug 13 UTC
AGW Sinks Island....or Not?
Classic AGW Hype. Did AGW sink and island? Depends on your source of information (more to come below):

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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Aug 13 UTC
Wait-for-orders
Particularly for the mods... Is it possible to push wait-for-orders games forward if a player doesn't seem to be around or something? The way some of these games go, there won't be a single original player left by the end.
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Sevyas (973 D)
17 Aug 13 UTC
question colonial map
Is a move from Sulu Sea to Manilla possible?
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smoky (771 D)
17 Aug 13 UTC
Join me :]
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Sbyvl36 (439 D)
14 Aug 13 UTC
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How to Spot a Communist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDWo-6WXbA
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