##VOTE Schindlers List
##VOTE 8 Mile
##VOTE Stripes
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##VOTE Hell or High Water
##VOTE The Dark Knight
##VOTE The Thing

##VOTE Die Hard

Such a great Christmas movie.

Also, I'd like to make it clear that I heavily enjoy Tarantino and all of his work. Some of my favorite films. But we're pitting one of what I consider to be a lower end of his films (fantastic, just nowhere near his best), against one of Christopher Nolan's last good films. Dark Knight is leaps and bounds of wonderful, and I do wish both of these films could make it to round 2, but Dark Knight wins out. Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker pushes it even further over the edge.

There are really cool camera techniques in Dark Knoght that get forgotten. For example in a few dialogue scenes with more than two characters, the camera spins around the group, and the speed of speech is entirely uninterrupted. And where the camera stops, 180 degree lines are drawn for the rest of the conversation. This sort of spin gives the audience the impression of "uh oh, something is going down, and they've gotta come up with something."

Hell or High Water is a fine film. Often natural, sometimes quite intelligent, and directed with a steady hand. Mackenzie is a class above the two pretentious jerks who made that film with Bardem and a cattle gun. What keeps it from being a great film is a certain "deja vu" feeling - it's old-fashioned. It could have been made in the 1970s with almost no changes. He's playing it too safe. Nevertheless, everyone should see it.

##VOTE Schindler's List
##VOTE Memento
##VOTEGroundhog Day
##VOTE Blazing Saddles
##VOTE Rear Window
##VOTE Hell or High Water
##VOTE Inglorious Basterds
##VOTE Die Hard

##VOTE Inglorious Basterds

I don't actually like The Dark Knight all that much. Batman Begins is a better Batman movie, and TDK wouldn't be nearly as popular and beloved if Heath Ledger hadn't died when it was about to be released.

WHOA WHOA WHOA
BATMAN BEGINS IS BETTER?
DO YOU NOT GET HOW FILMS FILM?

Worse action sequences (which is directly tied to worse editing), worse acting, worse effects, worse writing, worse cinematography. Batman Begins was the stunted child if the trilogy.

If I ever get the urge to watch any of the films in that trilogy, it's always Dark Knight. I'd rather watch Dark Knight Rises 10 times before ever going back to Batman Begins. It's okay. But the worst of the trilogy hands down.

It's a much better Batman movie.

How? It's objectively a worse movie.

How is it the worst of the trilogy? TDKR was abysmal.

It's a better BATMAN movie.

TDK doesn't actually feel like Batman.

TDKR was poorly managed, but BB was floundering quite a bit to get footing. I don't like either of them, particularly. The one plus I can give Begins is that we only have TDK because it existed.

Chaqa, that's like saying Empire Strikes Back was a bad Star Wars movie because it didn't feel like the original.

I didn't like any of them tbh. The original Batman film from the 80s and Batman Returns in particular were way better.

it's the best DC has put out in the modern era, and Dark Knight was by far the better movie.

I think it's just an Oklahoma thing to love TDK.

It's a "recognizing which films are objectively better than other films" thing.

I like the Tim Burton original as well. Considerably more than I like Batman Begins or TDKR. Comparing it to TDK, I might prefer TDK but that ones close. Jack Nicholson is also very fun in the Joker role, and Michael Keaton as Bruce Wayne gave me some good laughs as well. If I want something more serious, I could go to TDK, but Batman (1989) is more fun.

Heath Ledger also has been the only Joker since Nicholson to truly bring that role to life. even now... he might be better than Nicholson.

The Penguin in Batman Returns was great. That had the ideal level of creepiness for a Batman movie.

It's a shame that Batman Forever rather fell flat... And we just won't mention Batman and Robin unless it's in the comedy category.

My big complaint about Batman Returns is everything about Catwoman.

TrPrado: I actually consider Basterds to be one of Tarantino's best. My opinion of it got higher and higher every time I watched it. I'd probably only place Pulp Fiction ahead of it.

Mark Hamill is the best Joker.

This is why nobody likes you, Chaqa.

To be fair mark hamill is indeed, the best joker