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Hauta (1618 D(S))
19 Jun 17 UTC
What are the odds?
https://gizmodo.com/gop-data-firm-accidentally-leaks-personal-details-of-ne-1796211612

GOP agent responsible for leak of 198 million voters' data. What are the odds that no one like Roger Stone contacted the Russians about where to find the leak?
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kaner406 (356 D)
28 Mar 17 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to combat advertising for games inside otherwise unrelated threads: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads that thread readers are subjected to. Post game link, game type and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Freido28 (100 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Minimum players in classic game
Hi all, my first time creating a game on my own. Is there a way to set the game to only 4 or 5 players for a private game? I didn't see any option and it shows "game will start when all 7 players have joined" now. Thanks for any help!!
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
15 Jun 17 UTC
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Best WWE clip ever!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jkghtyxZ6rc

Opinion? ;)
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brainbomb (290 D)
17 Jun 17 UTC
Why are we?
Hello guys... Nearly all of us are alive. Why are we?
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
12 Jun 17 UTC
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Cheating accusation!
See inside for details.
13 replies
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Spitnaz (496 D)
17 Jun 17 UTC
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Chat history
I really want to review all the messages I sent to someone, but the history logs appear limited. Are they just gone, or is there any way to see the full message logs with a player from a game?
5 replies
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Javatiger (3417 D)
13 Jun 17 UTC
Question concerning game rules (pms)
Hi there! I need a public and official reply by a MODERATOR.
If you play a match without anonymous players, but even without private chat (only team chat): Is it allowed to write the other players private messages in order to negotiate? In my opinion everbody see the names of the other players and everybody can write to the other players, so it is a fair system. It is a very important part of this game to negotiate, you know.
How are the official rules?
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Wobblyau (894 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
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New player question
Hi, I looked through the rules but couldn't find it anywhere.
Simple question, can a fleet move from Sevastopol to Moscow?
4 replies
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jamesturner9000 (100 D)
17 Jun 17 UTC
FtF London Diplomacy!
*** LONDON DIPLOMACY TRAINING & GAMING SESSION HELD ON SUNDAY 25 JUNE 2017 (DETAILS BELOW – ALL WELCOME!!) ***
2 replies
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Hauta (1618 D(S))
16 Jun 17 UTC
Why did Pence just hire a CRIMINAL defense attorney?
Who's gonna be the fall guy? Not Pence. He's got the best lawyer.
16 replies
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Commander Thomas (395 D)
16 Jun 17 UTC
WebDiplomacy Website Buy-In/Ownership
Just a question that I have, not too sure if anyone can answer them. I have been pondering how people own the site. I know that you can become part of the Moderator/Admin Team or donate to the site, but how would someone go about purchasing the Web Diplomacy site?
20 replies
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brainbomb (290 D)
16 Jun 17 UTC
Should I get a haircut?
I am considering cutting my hair. I am starting to get my summer curls again.
13 replies
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ckroberts (3548 D)
05 Jun 17 UTC
new game(s)
Hello! I am looking to start two new games.
40 replies
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Hauta (1618 D(S))
14 Jun 17 UTC
Should Capitol Police protection be extended to all members of Congress?
At the Scalise incident this morning, the Capitol police were present only because Scalise was there. Without them, the shooter would have had a clear field until Alexandria police arrived. Shouldn't the Capitol Police protect EVERY large gathering of Congressmen?
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
07 Jun 17 UTC
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Texting for suicide
While I'm waiting for bo_sox to explain his inane threats, I'd love to hear what you think about this: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40181522

Freedom of speech or involuntary manslaughter?
78 replies
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
16 Jun 17 UTC
Mike Pence Lawyers Up
From the pinko, greeno, commies at Mother Jones.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/06/vice-president-pence-lawyers-up/
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Jun 17 UTC
American healthcare?
Is this a scam?
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/cross-check/why-i-wont-get-a-psa-test-for-prostate-cancer/?wt.mc=SA_Twitter-Share
4 replies
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Lamish (0 DX)
15 Jun 17 UTC
Cancelling a game
I've never cancelled a game before, but i'm wondering, if you cancel a game, will you get your starting coins back? Say you bid 10, will you get 10 back when you cancel? Also, what about if you take over a civil disorder?
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brainbomb (290 D)
15 Jun 17 UTC
Should Capital Letters be Protected for all members of webdip?
At the WebdIP this morning, the Capitol letters were present only because Hauta was there. Without them, the forum would have had a clear field until draconian mod police arrived. Shouldn't the Capitol Letters Protect EVERY large gathering of WEBDIPPIA
4 replies
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ND (879 D)
13 Jun 17 UTC
Otto Warmbier freed
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/13/north-korea-releases-jailed-us-student-otto-warmbier.html
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Hippopankake (80 D)
10 Jun 17 UTC
The watchmen
If any of you have ever seen the movie or read the graphic novel
Which do you prefer and why?
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slypups (1889 D)
14 Jun 17 UTC
The Last Known World Game
I just finished up the second to last Known World game, http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=187834, on 36 hour phases, which we probably played a few years further than we might have for that honor. This leaves one 10-day phase game in a still relatively early state, http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=187877
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brainbomb (290 D)
12 Jun 17 UTC
Puerto Rico - 51st US STATE?
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/12/politics/puerto-rico-question-answers-statehood-trnd/index.html
138 replies
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Novelties17 (0 DX)
13 Jun 17 UTC
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Scrub (198 D)
13 Jun 17 UTC
Poop
Post Poop
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
12 Jun 17 UTC
Medical marjuana and crime
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ecoj.12521/full

Study found reduced crime rates in counties near the mexican border.
8 replies
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thatwasawkward (4690 D(B))
12 Jun 17 UTC
Conspiracy
Anybody tried "Conspiracy" on Android? Looks like a pretty decent mobile implementation of Dip.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.badfrog.conspiracy.app
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
13 Jun 17 UTC
The Right Wing Media is Politically Correct
https://www.cjr.org/criticism/political-correctness-journalism.php

2 replies
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
28 Apr 17 UTC
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Official Greatest Movie Tournament Thread
See details inside:
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ghug (5068 D(B))
06 May 17 UTC
Chaqa, someone's gonna like every movie. It's a stand for Circle, not against Rocky.
VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
06 May 17 UTC
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*proceeds to see half the people voting for circle who haven't seen Circle or think it's a different film*
Also it's lovely when you go and see quotes like
"Anyway Circle is actually legitimately bad
But it pisses of Vash and it's hilarious"

in a pitch for it.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
06 May 17 UTC
Vash, can you use GM discretion to make Rocky win?

#Corruption
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 May 17 UTC
Sorry, Vash, this is our way of taking a stand against corruption in a cruel and evil world.
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
06 May 17 UTC
Man I feel only people would've taken a stand against corruption by voting for Gary Johnson instead of Clinton/Trump
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 May 17 UTC
If he weren't terrible, maybe people would have.

(lol not really this is america brains don't matter)
##Vote Circle
ND (879 D)
06 May 17 UTC
I get the need to make a stand against vashtas corruption, but Rocky is a great film. How can I vote against Rocky?
zurn (178 D)
06 May 17 UTC
This is all going full Trump/Brexit/BoatyMcBoatface.
ghug (5068 D(B))
06 May 17 UTC
ND, think of the greater good.
ND (879 D)
06 May 17 UTC
What's the count?
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
06 May 17 UTC
Zurn just said that Circle is Trump, ND. Think of that.
zurn (178 D)
06 May 17 UTC
lol, what have I done
peterlund (1310 D(G))
06 May 17 UTC
##VOTE AVATAR
TrPrado (461 D)
06 May 17 UTC
Yeah sure the count is (too many votes for Circle)-(not enough votes for Rocky)
ND (879 D)
06 May 17 UTC
If circle is going to win no point in switching a vote
dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
06 May 17 UTC
I was one who had not seen it in the early discussion. But I watched it before I voted. :-)
VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
06 May 17 UTC
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So yeah, this is probably a bit late in the phase (I’ll likely repost this in round to anyway) but I’m going to do something no one ever does, analyze a film. First off let me say the following, I don’t find circle to be an outright bad film, but I feel it misses the mark. Also, obviously, spoilers

First off for context (for all those who haven’t actually seen the film), here’s the trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAlpm2oRzy8

I admit that the trailer is pretty cool, but the execution is...somewhat lacking. I’m going to break this up into a number of sections with each individual issue I have with the film. First up….

THE CHARACTERS

The main issue with Circle is that there is 1. Very little incentive to get attached to any characters as they will die soon and 2. Very little development of the characters anyway. In fact the characters only reinforce stereotypes about the world instead of challenging them, the cop is racist, the businessman is sexist, the soldier is oh so honorable, the atheist has no morals and the banker is only concerned about himself. Aside from the issues of simply validating society’s stereotypes, it’s also hard to relate or root for any of them and makes their struggle more trivial as instead of feeling the need to ask “what would I do?” I instead simply ask “well, who’s next”?

However, you may ask, “well, okay, but some characters need to be flat right?” And that would be an okay concern if it weren’t that all the characters were. The eventual victor is so vapid I don’t understand a thing about him, and the people who join him in the final 4 are a child, who’d only characteristic is that they are a child and scared, a pregnant woman, whose only characteristic is she is pregnant and a dude who has literally no lines in the entire film and does nothing. Not exactly the compelling leads you need to make a story interesting. Like, was it too much to understand more about these people who make it so far, we get some token background of some characters, why not the “main ones” at least. So that’s my first issue. Next one is:


THE THEMES

CIrcle tries to ask a lot of good questions, like “why is this happening?”, “who does humanity preference?”, “what will we do in this situation?” and “what happens when we approach the last person”? However, it doesn’t answer a lot of them in a meaningful way. We never find out the motivation for the circles, just that there has been an alien invasion and reasons, so that’s problematic. Secondarily it seems to contradict its main idea, as it first begins to believe we would protect the least well off (as the child and pregnant woman makes it far) and then flips this to a nihilistic point, as the last person actually tricks them into getting himself out alive and then a lot of the other survivors turn out to be children and pregnant people, so which is it? Do the self interested make it out or someone else? I can understand trying not to answer the question but instead we just have contradictory answers.
Also, everyone just assumes there will be a winner? Unclear why this is true, but they seem to assume it to be true, could’ve been interesting for the winner to end up in another circle or something like that, but do we get that, nope. Which also may have been better if you want a nihilistic take on the cycle. Also, the question of what would you do is already sucky if everyone is just stereotypes instead of seeming like actual people. So already we have weak characters and themes that are not fleshed out nearly enough, you just have stuff happening. However what I find to be the worst is that:

IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER:

Circle is held back by the fact it focuses too much on the circle, which is an interesting concept, and not enough about after the Circle or the fact that it is literally one sample. It also doesn’t explain why it happened, doesn’t even give any answer for it, to quote Rubber there was “no reason, no reason at all” for it.
Instead we could start with someone remembering their circle, and flashing to it throughout the movie, knowing who won, but not exactly what happened, allowing there to be tension. But now instead this person goes through the world after they’re all done, running into different people, trying to rebuild society, figure out why it happened and hearing about their circles. Now we can think about what humanity does in those situations while actually getting character development. And if you want to make the main character slimy, we now have a way to make it more compelling, cause now we know him, but know the choice they underwent as what it was, true making people ask what they would do in that situation. Also the themes are just done better in pretty much any war film with better characters. Overall, Circle is mediocre, it misses the mark, and that’s why it really shouldn’t win. I’ll like repost this with comparisons to it’s opponent if it makes it through.
Also ##voteRocky and ##voteAmadeus
TrPrado (461 D)
06 May 17 UTC
A little late for that
Anyway, Phase over, let's check this.
Final Vote Tally:
GROUP A
GOOD WILL HUNTING: 8
AMADEUS: 5

GROUP B
ANNIE HALL: 3
WHEN HARRY MET SALLY: 9

GROUP C
ALIEN: 11
AMARCORD: 3

GROUP D
CIRCLE: 17
ROCKY: 13

Good Will Hunting, WHen Harry Met Sally, Alien and....Circle advance.

I'm going to try and speed this up so we'll have 2 matchups from each group and see how that goes.
NEW MATCHUPS
GROUP A:
No. 4 Moneyball vs No. 29 Bowling for Columbine
and
No. 13 The Deer Hunter vs. No. 20 Birdman

GROUP B:
No. 4 The Princess Bride vs No. 29 It's a Mad, Mad, Mad World
and
No. 13 Shrek vs. No. 20 Crocodile Dundee

Group C:
No. 4 Rush Hour vs No. 29 Runaway Train
and
No. 13 Life id Beautiful vs. No. 20 Nuovo Cinema Paradiso

GROUP D:
No. 4 Inception vs No. 29 Jeremiah Johnson
and
No. 13 Terminator 2 vs. No, 20 Edge of Tommorrow (Live. Die. Repeat)
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
06 May 17 UTC
This is a travesty.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
06 May 17 UTC
##Vote Moneyball
##Vote The Deer Hunter

##Vote The Princess Bride
##Vote Crocodile Dundee

##Vote Rush Hour
##Abstrain (wtf are those movies lol)

##Vote Inception
##Vote Edge of Tomorrow

T2 is a fucking great movie, but I really liked Edge of Tomorrow. I'm fine with either, but if Circle can win, I'm going to dream.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
06 May 17 UTC
##vote The Deer Hunter because fuck Birdman
##vote The Princess Bride
##vote Shrek
##vote Rush Hour
##vote Inception
##vote Edge of Tomorrow
Zmaj (215 D(B))
06 May 17 UTC
I picked the loser in each group. This can mean only one thing: the majority of the WebDip community are people who have suppressed the artistic impulses in their life to the benefit of science and technology. Oh woe.
TrPrado (461 D)
06 May 17 UTC
##VOTE Moneyball

##VOTE Princess Bride
##VOTE Shrek

##VOTE Inception
##VOTE Terminator 2
TrPrado (461 D)
06 May 17 UTC
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aErDTrWZkTU

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