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Adam Bomb (100 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Doctor Who: the New or the Old orOld or Old or Old.....???
An almost perpendicular thread to my tiring Socialism thread.
Who's your favorite Doctor???
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
New World Dip. Game
game phase: 1 day
bet: 75

join please
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
OK, This HAS To Stop! America...THIS Is Why Your Colleges Are Failing!
Or one reason...jerks like the ones who are 1. Talking in a library on finals 2. Clearly set this girl off and 3. ARE SO SLEAZY AS TO TAPE HER, AND THEN GOAD HER SOME MORE!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xbaDw7A6anA
WHY let jerks like that who don't want to work into our Cal States U's? They're already impacted! I feel for that Asian girl...
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Favorite Word in the English language
Post your favorite word and definition and why.
Mine is : antidisestablishmentarionism, a movement to remove the church of england from power, and its sheer length and awesomeness is why I like it!
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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Entering retirement to go to work... how about that.
See thread for details.
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franzjosefi (1291 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Most Important Centers on the Ancient Med Map
Quick straw poll. What is the most strategically vital center on the Ancient Med map? I think it is Byzantium.
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Nelhybel (280 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
Team Diplomacy Tournament
A tournament hosted by Diplomat33. "Game 1" is starting to wrap up, and we're all wondering...
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jireland20 (0 DX)
10 Dec 11 UTC
LIVE GAME!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74416
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Friday Around The Horn! Sports Fans, Is It Safe To Say...
1. The NHL has leapfrogged the beleaguered NBA as 3rd most popular out of the Big Four Leagues (NFL way in first, MLB in a distant-but-decent 2nd?)
2. The USA's interest in the 2012 World Cup will be higher after the '08 run?
3. The Angels' Pujos/Wilson pickups make them favorites to make the LCS?
4. The Ravens have supplanted the Colts/Patriots/Steelers as the AFC Superteam?
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Argento (5723 D)
10 Dec 11 UTC
New game "For the old times..."
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74401
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Sydney City (0 DX)
09 Dec 11 UTC
3 countries needed in live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74378&msgCountryID=6
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mrmuszynski (100 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Transferring control of a country
We have a player in our game who is not going to be able to continue because he is too busy with work and just doesn't have time to commit to playing well.

Is there a way for the mods to substitute another account for his, or should we just have someone sit on his account for the remainder of the game?
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Mods!
Someone stole my lunch out of the fridge at work today! What are youvgoing to do about it??
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Trooth (561 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Whats your Favorite phrase?
I couldnt think of my favorite word because there are so many, but I was able to remember my favorite phrase:

off duty stripper...
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
07 Dec 11 UTC
WACcon 2012: Seattle
Anyone else going?!
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Any mods online?
Care to message me if you are?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Albert Pujos Is Coming My Way To LA...ANGELS SIGN HIM! (WOW!)
I mean...WOW! Largest contract in history! 10 years, 254 MILLION $!
That's the Angels eclipsing the YANKEES contract to A-Rod, the YANKS!
And St. Louis...how do you NOT keep him whatever it takes!
Sell the Rams to Los Angeles, before you let Pujos go...WOW!
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chenf (689 D)
09 Dec 11 UTC
Let's see if we can get this filled in the next hour and half
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=74108

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Yonni (136 D(S))
09 Dec 11 UTC
Why aren't you watching Michael: Tuesday and Thursdays?
The fact that you're doing anything else at this moment is a travesty.
http://www.cbc.ca/michael/videos/
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Cachimbo (1181 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Best Webdip Quote of the Day
Post yours here.
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
06 Dec 11 UTC
Great Article About Diplomacy
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/humour/coast_moscow.htm

Well worth a read. Written by the maker of the game himself.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Mod Attention Please.
Hi Mods (again),
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
08 Dec 11 UTC
WebDip Poll: Am I a troll?
Vote Below with a +1 to the option you choose.
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killer135 (100 D)
06 Dec 11 UTC
Riddles
post a riddle
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Jul 11 UTC
SoW Summer 2011 Game 2
gameID=63029

Please follow the thread rules below
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
10 Nov 11 UTC
S12: A very brutal year for one player in particular and we will also see the final three by the game's end. I think I can now say with certainty, the rest of the game is about cleaning up loose ends.

#1 and 2: France and Turkey:
For the first time, I have placed Turkey in the top spot, although it's a shared position, so a hearty congrats to him in his successful change of events.

France: I'm more apt to place you in the second spot but only based on the centers you'll gain this season. Your position is a beautiful one and you'll definitely see a new center at Liverpool this season, but I'm not entirely sure you'll get Edinburgh. The second great thing about your position is that you threaten so many of your opponent's centers. Anytime you threaten 2 or more neighboring centers, it forces your opponent to really have to think about what you might do. In your position, there are no less than a dozen ways you could move depending on how aggressive you play, which centers you're going to put emphasis on and how you think Germany will move and this type of diversity really means that Germany is simply guessing and when you have your opponent on the ropes like you do here, then all the power is on your side. Although it doesn't need to be said, you're one of the 3 countries that will participate in the endgame draw and I think this type of press has made up a portion of your messages in the past several years. You've worked cohesively with Russia and I don't see any singular power having the ability to get a solo.

Turkey: A really fortunate turn of events was the NMR of Italy. This helped you speed up the process in reducing the country. Another congrats in resecuring Russia as an ally and at this point, it's a matter of finalizing another year or two. I like your position a bit more than the French one in that you have all the bonuses of the French player in the way you're threatening a ton of your opponents centers forcing him to guess at what you're going to do but you also have the option of stabbing an ally at any point if you felt that you had the chance of a solo and the stab would be pretty good. At this point, though, I don't see another stab in the future. If you'd have had over 10 centers, then I'd be telling Russia and France to watch their backs, but like I mentioned earlier, this part is simply about cleaning up. It doesn't really need to be stated since it's obvious, but you'll be one of the players at the endgame and congrats at turning a last-place position into a potentially first place ending. When I calculate my personal stats, I enjoy seeing a first-place position in a draw. Even though it might not translate to more in terms of the draw, I feel it's better to be the top guy in a draw rather than third or fourth.

#3 Russia: Not a bad number 3 because this position is still really solid. I love the move to Silesia since it prevents stabs, even though I don't see one coming in this game at this point. I also like the move to Lvn and Mos. It was conservative compared to a direct march into St Pete but it was a sure thing. I'm sure most people would say that Germany was 90% certain to not move Norway into St Pete and I agree with them because his disband occurred there showing that he has no interest in defending his rear flank, but there's still a small chance that he'd have bounced you there, and sometimes it's better to be safe than sorry, especially since you weren't going to get Nwy this season, so why not take the sure route. It also goes without saying that you'll be the final person in the endgame draw since I don't foresee any reason for anyone to stab anyone else. You, France and Turkey were all at the cusp of defeat in this game and all three of you turned things around to end on a strong note. A big congrats to you as well.

#4 Germany: I'm glad to see that you continue fighting even though you'll be out this game. I'm sure I can say that everyone who has played a dozen or more games of Diplomacy has been there before and I know it sucks, but it says something really great about you that you're willing to fight to the last man. Not all games flow like this one and sometimes someone will try to solo and someone else will need to keep a minor power on the map to ensure that the top dog doesn't move on to solo. I myself have kept a small country around to ensure that someone didn't solo and that low center country wound up with part of a draw instead of an elimination. You did a great job for 95% of the game and it was only a small portion of the game where you overextended yourself that caused you to falter. At this stage in the game, you've got a lot of choices on how to defend, but I usually find that defending only means you die slower. In my opinion, I think it's better to throw in some tricks and try to slip behind enemy lines and screw up their backfield. They wrecked your game, so spend some time wrecking theirs. It often results in a few things: (a) Your opponent sees that you're throwing yourself at him and he backs off because he doesn't have the lone strength to defeat you and you win a new ally, (b) It does nothing to faze your opponent but it slows or halts his progress while his ally sees regular gains, at which point you can rest well that since you're going down, your opponent could easily get stabbed in the process, and (c) It sometimes spurs someone neighboring your opponent to join the foray and it wins you an ally in the process. In the past several seasons, that's what I'd have tried. Focus on one opponent (didn't matter if it was Russia or France) and fight them until they cry 'uncle' or get so pissed at you that they spout profanities at you vehemently. I don't see that happening in this game, but it's something to think about in the future. Reducing yourself to defending is a hard habit to break because people often think that if they survive long enough that someone will come to their aid, and while it's true in a small portion of games, it's far more common that your assault on one opponent will cause them to break.

#5 Italy: Uh...an NMR? I see you haven't been on in over 4 days and it wasn't even you that requested the pause, so I don't really understand the NMR here, especially given that your profile shows that you were on 2 days ago. I'm not saying that this NMR will cost you anything, because you were out the door anyhow since the R/T reformed for the final push, but it's still poor show. Hopefully you'll return to finish this out.
Forgive me if this is a leading question, professor, but this sort of end-game is where I myself always trip up. Why do you insist that there will be a 3-way? Do you see any solo potential in any of the 4 major powers present? Not to say you have to name said power, but what is stopping anyone from attempting the solo at this point?
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
11 Nov 11 UTC
Certainly someone could attempt a solo but when we look at the center distributions, no one's a standout. I'm calling the endgame as F/R/T. Let's assume some things for a moment:

Let's say that France tries to solo: He could pick up 3 more centers along England, possibly about-face and take Kiel and Berlin but he'd soon find that Turkey has advanced to the stalemate line in the south, Russia and Turkey are there along the German border and Russia will continue to see builds and stack units in German areas all before France can get anywhere.

If Russia tries to solo: he's currently got a deficiet of fleets in the north to capture English centers and France would stalemate him along the F/G border, Turkey controls a dominant position in the south over Russia which would mean the loss of Sevastopol and Budapest and he lacks the real solid front-line necessary to keep units out.

If Turkey tries to solo: he has the best chance, in my opinion, to solo at this point because he's the only one that might be able to get a German ally long enough to prove anything, and he's also got the builds coming and the position right now to set up for the possibility. If he were to try to solo, though, Russia could stalemate him along Warsaw and Moscow meaning that he'd have to have 3 western centers at Portugal, Marseilles and Spain in order to win along with Rome, Naples, Tunis, Budapest, Vienna and Sevastopol to boot. France will also have another build coming this year and he's already begun to move a unit south to cover things.

In any scenario, the person trying to solo would *have* to get the help of Germany in order to do it, and after Germany has begun to help, the other two involved would simply cry out to Germany to stop helping and they'd throw him into the endgame draw turning it from a 3-way to a 4-way which is something that only Germany wants. I will also say for the record, that at this stage, if you know that you're part of an endgame draw, it's always worth it, in my opinion, to try for the solo because the odds of you being eliminated is next to nothing, but also, I think that in this situation, no one has the standout units necessary to do it.
uclabb (589 D)
11 Nov 11 UTC
Without being too leading, why shouldn't Turkey stab Russia? What does he have to lose?
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
11 Nov 11 UTC
No country has anything to lose by trying for the solo, per say. I simply think that a solo isn't going to be the outcome. My statement above was:

"If you know that you're part of an endgame draw, its alway's worth it, in my opinion, to try for the solo because the odds of you being eliminated are next to nothing."

Certainly there are countries out there that don't want to lose and they may have the belief that a survival is better than an elimination. If that's the case, they might be willing to aid someone in soloing in hopes of one of two outcomes coming about: either they survive under someone's solo or they take part in a draw by switching sides late in the stages to prevent their prior ally from soloing.

Russia, (no offense) has played this game rather gullibly believing in his ally's good will and honesty. He has allowed himself to sit in a position to be stabbed on a number of occasions and Turkey could stab him and so could France. It wouldn't be an effort-free stab at this point, but things could change. Heck, if Russia played his cards right and Italy rejoined the game, he could have the opportunity to solo.

The bottom line is that all I'm saying at this stage is that everyone's unit count is pretty close and that makes a stab difficult. One thing I've said in prior seasons is when setting up a stab, you really want to make sure that your units increase while your opponents remain the same or decrease for a stab to be effective. The last thing you want in any stab is to see your opponent with new builds coming at his home centers because that refortifies his critical areas.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
13 Nov 11 UTC
Well, given Italy's CD, I think that it's appropriate for me to put in a few words here.

First, I'd like to say that I never condone CD's. NMR's are an occasional mishap and can be overlooked but not a CD. I would like to thank those that stuck it out to the bitter end (England and Austria especially) because this shows a person's character in the face of defeat. Losing affects us all from time to time and how you deal with defeat speaks openly about some things of who you are. Those that never give up in a fight are sometimes rewarded for their efforts.

Some might ask, why, especially this late in the game, is a CD so bad? After all, if you've only got 1 or 2 units left and you know you'll be gone next year, why finish it out? My answer to that is simple: because there are still others playing that depend on your participation. When a country goes into CD, it gives every country on the map either an unfair advantage or an unfair disadvantage, even late in the game, and this advantage gets bigger the more centers the CD'er controls.

For those nearby the country, it can mean that they have easy access to free centers that they can take unopposed, much like what happens in S01. This means that these players can afford to devote more units to another task than they would normally be able to do.

For those far away from the country, it has the opposite effect. While some countries get a boost in their gains over the next few years, others have to continue to fight for their gains and growth will be slower or nonexistent while other countries reap the rewards of the CDing country.

For allies of the CDing country, they depend on those they work with. When an ally quits, it can turn an easy task into a difficult one, and a difficult one into a monumentally difficult or impossible one. This is especially true when several powers are attempting to stop someone from soloing. If one of the powers gives up, it can mean that it becomes impossible to hold a stalemate line and prevent someone from soloing. It means allies lose supports and can lose heart.

For the opponents of a CDing country it can give them renewed vigor to stick to an old course even if they were on the brink of changing sides or settling for a draw. It can bolster someone into stabbing an ally when the stab either wouldn't come at that point or wouldn't come at all and it can mean that the enemies gain an unfair advantage against other players.

Even though CD's are a part of the game, I tend to hold a philosophy. If someone CD's in a game I'm playing, I will almost never cancel a game, even if its 1901. I believe that a person who CD's in a game shouldn't be rewarded by dropping the game. Instead, I believe that the game should be drawn once the country has completely left. I don't believe in returning diplomacy points to someone who CD's and the CD should remain as a stain on their record. I also don't often try to find a replacement player (unless it's in a tournament) because the replacement player changes things in a game that can be unexpected. If I worked hard in S01 to secure a Russian ally playing as Austria and by F01 he quits and a new Russia takes his place, he might view certain things in a different light, decide to move contrary to a way that the old Russia and I had discussed or throw a game off balance because things change when a new player enters. New additions to a game lack the emotion and fervor that gets built up in a game as the years go by. Each game has its own history, its own flow and a feel to it that is different for every other game and its all built around each unique person, what they bring to the game and their individual perspectives and devices that they have and new players change these things. In a tournament, however, a new player must be added in order to retain balance and continued progress

Next, I simply want to say that it's particularly poor show to CD in a game of this magnitude. When multiple people spend a great deal of time organizing and participating in a game or series of games, it's complete disrespect to everyone involved to simply quit playing, especially since you sign your name on the entry list before it all begins dedicating yourself to the game for however long it takes and under whatever circumstances are necessary.

Last, I want to apologize for the CD. I'll support whatever everyone wishes to do. You all have my "policy" on it, if it could be called that, and whatever the TA's, players and goldfinger decide is fine. If the game commenses, I'll continue to prof, treating Italy as a dead country, and if the game ends 'prematurely', I'll prepare some EOG's.
Pepijn (212 D(S))
13 Nov 11 UTC
Thank you, Tru Ninja, for these explanations. I am not sure if the players should discuss this in the forum, but maybe it is safe to say that for my part demanding a forced draw because of Italy's CD would seem unjustified. For France, Turkey and Russia, however, who all have reasonable hopes to end the game in their favour (be that a draw the others or a solo or whatever), it is a different matter.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
13 Nov 11 UTC
I agree with that. I also think that it's not something to be discussed in the forums either, but rather the global chat of your game but it should always be discussed, even if the decision is to continue on with the game.
Cachimbo (1181 D)
13 Nov 11 UTC
Could we not consider this, the forum, the Global Channel of our game given the nature of this particular game?

☺ (1304 D)
13 Nov 11 UTC
As Italy's TA, I'll say that he stopped talking to me several years before he went CD...
Pepijn (212 D(S))
13 Nov 11 UTC
I don't mind, if everyone is happy with it, we could also discuss matters in the forum, so far there hasn't been a discussion in global chat.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
14 Nov 11 UTC
It's cool smiles. I know you were in it for the long-haul.
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
14 Nov 11 UTC
I would be cool with a draw now. I haven't the time to put into it. I just got hurt pretty bad in an accident. Italy's CD completely ruined my chances of anything. I/R was my chance at being able to do something. This may or may not be my last post for a bit. I can try to be on, but there is no guarantee.
First off, I will allow discussion that would be global to be in this thread. Second, in light of these events, and Scmoo's injury, I suggest that the game be either paused or drawn immediately. All the remaining players have performed admirably. Pepijn is correct in his insights on the result of the game. As Germany, he has no legitimate say in the outcome. So it is up to Turkey and Russia to decide which path to take. If there is a draw, I would like each student to add on to the end of their EOG what they would have done if the game had kept on going normally
Yonni (136 D(S))
15 Nov 11 UTC
We have agreed to pause the game if Scmoo needs it. If he doesn't show up to WebDip in the next 24 hours or so it has been suggested (and agreed upon) that we'll ask the mods for a force pause.

Regarding the draw - I ask this here for the sake of discussion and not to accuse Cachimbo of a dirty victory (which is yet to come) - My question would have to be: How would Turkey's position be different if Italy was still alive?

He would likely not have Tunis nor would Rome be guaranteed especially if he stabbed me this year and lost my support. Would a solo be possible? Maybe. But I don't believe the position would be nearly as rosy as it is now.

I believe the correct thing to do would be to draw. However, from my experiences on this site I'm firmly in the more extreme camp as far as drawing when CDs are concerned. I recognize that some people see it more as part of the online game so they don't feel the need to draw.
Then it seems as though it is up to Turkey. I shall point out though that he is not being forced to draw, nor should any of the comments in this thread be construed as such
Pepijn (212 D(S))
15 Nov 11 UTC
In an attempt of an answer to Yonni's question (though the answer will be controversial no doubt, and it is also a bit pointless, but here we go) it depends greatly on the question whether Russia has changed his orders due to a pending NMR from a move against Russia to support Russia. If there was an I/R in place as France hinted at, Turkey would not be where it is now. If not, if Russia intended to support Turkey into Venice than, NMR or nor, Venice would have fallen, but most likely Turkey would not be in the Tyrrhenian Sea, but in Apulia. Which leads to the next question, would Turkey have been able to take another Italian SC, namely Naples and I think, while Turkey could have forced Naples in any case, only at the risk of loosing Venice. So there is a chance, not a certainty, that Turkey would not have gotten 2 Italian SCs this turn, but only one, but he would be nonetheless in a great position to take the rest this year.
Pepijn (212 D(S))
15 Nov 11 UTC
Obviously this should read "from a move against Turkey to support Turkey".
Cachimbo (1181 D)
15 Nov 11 UTC
Let's be clear on something: I know that I would have ended the year with 2 Italian centres. I'll grant that Tunis would not have been one of them, but that's all. I've worked quite hard at setting things up and I can promise you that even with Italy around, things would not have played out much differently in terms of alliances and support. I want to say more to support my claims, but I think it would be wrong.

There's still a chance that the game will end in a draw. I haven't won it yet and I stabbed to get at 11, which is fairly risky. But there's also a chance I can pull this off and, given the kinda game it's been, I want to try.
Yonni (136 D(S))
15 Nov 11 UTC
For the sake of discussion, feel free to divulge anything you want about our alliance. I think the 3 of us (GFR) are firmly in the stop the solo mode so I'm sure nothing you could say would sway that.

The question isn't only if you'd have 2 Italian centres or not but how the board would look if you did.

I would have helped you into Venice regardless but in order to get your 2nd centre, you would have moved to Apu and taken Naples from the Ionian. Assuming Tunis bounced the fleet in the Aegean, you would have fleets in Apu, Naples and the Aegean instead of the Tyrrhenian Sea, Tunis, and Ionian. Furthermore, Italy would have a fleet in Tunis to oppose you.

Also, I know it's unrelated to the CD, but I asked Germany for support into Holland explicitly to get me a build in case you stabbed. Unfortunately, as has often been the case in the West this game, there must have been some miscommunication.
Yonni (136 D(S))
15 Nov 11 UTC
p.s. For all those nitpickers out there. This is not discussing an ongoing game as I would have posted this in the global press.
Cachimbo (1181 D)
15 Nov 11 UTC
You're in the clear Yonni: Goldie gave us permission to use the forum thread as an extension of the global channel.

And yes, I've admitted to so much: my positions would be slightly different. And while I agree that my chances are now better than they otherwise would have been, I believe I still had very good chances to pull it off regardless. The EoGs should clarify some of my reasons for thinking so.

I'm likely to sound like an über-douchebag for saying so, but I think we should stop this conversation where it is and keep the rest for the EoGs. At the very least, and though we have permission to talk here too, I think we should bring back all game related conversations into the game's proper interface. My missing out on Scmoo's injury is an important reason why we should proceed thus.
Scmoo472 (1933 D)
15 Nov 11 UTC
We shall not quit. We signed up the play to the end, and injury or not I will play on. I already put it in Global, but I figured I would reiterate myself here.
Alright then. When the game restarts from the pause, we shall go back to refraining from talking in this thread about it
Cachimbo (1181 D)
16 Nov 11 UTC
There's no pause Goldie. Game will simply progress.
My apologies. I thought Scmoo had requested a pause
Cachimbo (1181 D)
16 Nov 11 UTC
Certainly no need to apologize!
We've offered him a pause, but he's declined it.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
16 Nov 11 UTC
Well then, I'll comment on the season, then.

#1 Turkey: While some have stated that your fortune is because of an Italian CD, and to some extend I agree with that, I also think that timing is everything and the Russian stab was nicely done. Predictable, but a good call nonetheless. The Italian CD did provide you with Tunis, but if Italy had continued to play, it's conceivable that you could have taken Naples instead. At any rate, the 3 builds puts you solidly in first place and a shot at the solo that you'll clearly try for. There are a number of positive aspects to the current situation including the fact that Russia has no units near Sevastopol or Vienna, France has only 2 fleets in the south (after the current year's build) and despite the fact that the board had the idea that you might solo, Russia still decided to try to move on France. This puts more tension among the other 3 nations that will try to prevent you from soloing. Germany is in no position to do anything against you at current and Russia will have to move some units to counter. The biggest hurdle, however, will be crossing the stalemate line because, while everyone's familiar with the 17-17 line, there's another that contains a 19-15 split where the north controls Moscow and Warsaw. For builds, I anticipate 2 armies and a fleet, or 3 armies depending on where you anticipate need.

#2 France: Tough break. The Italian CD means that you'll have to work solo at blockading the line to the west, which means a re-route of extra units and in light of the fact that Germany is still alive and kicking and Russia attempted some moves against your centers with anticipatory German support. This adds a little more tension to the waters. Fortunately, you have a build coming, but you also have some decisions to make on how to counter the Turkish offensive. The questions I'm curious to see about is what you and Russia ultimately decide to do about Germany. On the one hand, you have to ask if it's better to eliminate him and build to the line, thus reducing the potential 4-way to a 3-way which also increases the risk of a Turkish solo, or simply allow him to move to the line and help maintain control, trusting that he won't stab one of you and ally with the Turk and accept him as a fourth member of the draw which would almost certainly eradicate the Turkish solo possibility. This isn't necessarily a clear-cut decision because it puts a lot of trust into both Germany and Russia as you'd have to focus southward away from some of their northerly units which can be tense. For builds, though, I expect a fleet in Marseilles.

#3 Russia: I'm unsure why, in the face of a possible Turkish solo, you opted to try for Munich and Kiel. Even if you didn't think about the possibility, I don't know why you'd have tried to stab France. You're going to lose a few more centers before this is over but you'll still end in a reasonable spot. Sevastopol and Vienna are not critical losses, or at least not as critical as Warsaw, Moscow or any locations west of the line, and you can afford to ditch some units. I'd like to see your retreat phase and I will comment on it when the time comes. You have an option available to you that I'm not sure you'll take or not. I'll know tomorrow when I look at the map.

#4 Germany: The Turkish move to solo was a great turn of events for you. It brings new possibilities to you that could have you finishing this game out without being eliminated. Depending on your press with the other nations, I think your disbands could be easy choices this season. I don't want to try to predict anything here but I'm interested to see what comes of the next year. Your disbands will indicate which direction you're headed, or at least based on what you have talked about among the others still in the game.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
16 Nov 11 UTC
As promised, here is my slice of commentary on the Russian retreats:

I love the disband idea. I wasn't sure if you were going to disband or retreat to Galicia, but the disband was by far your best choice. This means that a build to Sevastopol will be pending. It won't save Sevastopol but it certainly will slow Turkey down a bit.
Cachimbo (1181 D)
16 Nov 11 UTC
I don't like to be slowed down.

I think he should just wait until next year before building.

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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Dec 11 UTC
Will you be my friend?
I'm looking to start a game with people I haven't played before.
Game will be 36hour, WTA, low pot.
I reserve the right to not be friends with anyone I chose.
Post your interest below.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
Tigres et Diesel - EOG
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Babak (26982 D(B))
16 Nov 11 UTC
Something I have to share
Should be watched by as many people as possible. please share on your FB pages or email contact lists. Powerful and effective.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGR5UQJLQvU&list=PL75FD5B97013BAF01&index=6&feature=plpp_video
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Dec 11 UTC
DNWC
diplomacy nations World Cup...

anyone else playing?
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Hugo_Stiglitz (100 D)
08 Dec 11 UTC
My Triumphant Return
Yes, after weeks of a harrowing work schedule (followed by months of forgetting my password here), I make my return.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HxYuCsj26s
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