Bo you just wanna sit around smoking joints with me and ghug eating papa johns

Rubio would have put up a fight against Sanders too. He was the guy I was afraid of Bernie having to face.

@bo

Domo arigato, Marco rubi-at-o

his one stuttering at the debate repeating the SAME LINE about Obama over and over again KILLED him. I can draw back to that ONE moment it was SoOoOoO bad

Hell yeah, brain. Bring some peanut butter cups too.

Yeah he had a bad night lmao

the 25 second speech attacked by Christie. it killed him

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2016/feb/06/marco-rubio-same-line-repeat-obama-chris-christie-republican-debate-video

There were too many debates. And they let trump dictate everything.

Rand paul shouldve been the nominee

If those debates had actually been moderated like they are supposed to be instead of being total shitfests, Rubio would have been fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDwODbl3muE&feature=youtu.be&t=20

@brainbomb

also, in one of the LAST debates, they had pre-prepare slide attacking Trump, but they had weak shots at him, and he survived. They could have stopped this nearly a year ago, but it was... FOX i think with Megyn Kelley that messed up. they didn't kill him off, Clinton has been doing pretty well though

Right, that was the beginning of the end for Rubio.

@bo

yeah, there've been AWFUL moderators this cycle

ND is this,really the candidate you wanted all along? I was a Bernie supporter til about Feb.

To dispel the notion I never liked Bernie I actually did. Lol

I voted for Trump in the VA primary on Super Tuesday. I am excited to vote for him again on election day.

I love Bernie as a person, but I never once though his economics were solid. Such a nice man, if this were a moral contest:

Johnson, Sanders, and a Golden Retriever would be a historic 3 way race

They had countless chances to get rid of him. The best one was when he tried backing out of a debate. They should have just made him quit and get out of town. That was flat out disrespectful of the process and of their voters that wanted to hear what he had to say.

I thought Johnson was the Golden Retriever.

His policies would have done fine if the people were in place to make it happen. He personally would not have been very successful in implementing them, but he would have been one of the most admirable presidents we have had in recent memory socially and militarily.

True bo. I agree.

We had a very qualified president in GHW Bush. But the country voted for Bill Clinton instead. That should tell you something about the American electorate.

And I've heard a lot about the Clinton surplus: it doesn't exist.

back then, they didn't take social security and public debt into factor. If they had, Clinton would have had a considerable deficit.

Obama gets crap, but by Clinton's standards, I think he may have had a surplus for 2 of his years (my memory is fuzzy)

There was a lot of anti Reaganism too. But he was the one who got a treaty to reduce Nuclear Weapons. Everyone said he was too dangerous. But he was the one who negotiated with the Soviet Union after scareing them into negotiating.

There is no way in mathematics that you could give Obama a balanced budget.

you're right CB, here is the purely %ofGDP stats, he never made it

2009
9.8
2010
8.7
2011
8.5
2012
6.8
2013
4.1
2014
2.8
2015
2.4

and CAPT Brad, my point is, Clinton was never as great as our memory of him is

Clinton was never great. Ever! Either one of them!!

Obama has done fine with the budget. I've proven that on this forum in the past. You should dig it up because I'm not going to bother writing the same essay again.

Reagan was a fantastic President at times. Against the Soviets, he was exactly what we needed. He played hardball with them and outspent them when that is exactly what their weakness was in the absence of a real unified power. Don't forget that that was 40 years in the making, though. Every POTUS from FDR, Truman, Eisenhower, and onward deserve credit for putting the chain of events in motion for the USSR to fall (except Johnson, maybe; he turned the clock back). Containment was pretty remarkable.