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jimgov (219 D(B))
29 Mar 13 UTC
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The mods rock
Although I can't get into details until the investigation is complete, I just want to say that I am thoroughly impressed by the mods on this site. I know that many of us, me included, will bust their chops, but they are a great group that take care of business. Thanks!
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
29 Mar 13 UTC
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Favorite/Best : Openings : & New Names of...
Here is a reference: www.diplom.org/Online/Openings/
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
29 Mar 13 UTC
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Mod Status: Thanks Kestas!!!
Hey folks, check out the reinstated mod status! Who knew sixteen little dots could be so useful.
Also, just a simple reminder that the mods speak as players most of the time and when we are speaking as mods, we usually sign, "webdipmod" or some such at the end.

Once again, awesome mod status.
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Schneemensch (0 DX)
29 Mar 13 UTC
report multiple player player in anonymous game?
Hey,
is it possible to report a player for playing multiple nations or at least of-game agreements in an anonymous game?
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
25 Mar 13 UTC
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The Level of Competition of WebDip: Better/Worse/Comparable?
I personally believe that the level of competition has increased steadily. Since I've been here, I've seen many new players who have raised the bar such as Cach, sly, Tasnica, 8foldWay, CStein, ghug, gen. lee, fairfax, SD (gb only), and many others. I think that it might be harder to raise your GR substantially now than when the site was new. Not to start a flame war, but I don't know if the old upper echelon would have gained as much GR if they competed with the current crop.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
29 Mar 13 UTC
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Part of the axis of evil is spiralling into a vicious circle.
What will this mean for geometry?
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jimgov (219 D(B))
29 Mar 13 UTC
Procedural Question
Lets say that someone wants to start a tournament. And in the tournament, the mods would have to get involved by making sure that every one of the 7 players played 7 different countries. What is the proper procedure? Do we ask the mods in advance? I'm guessing yes. If so, then how long in advance? Or is this something that is not acceptable? Thanks in advance.
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Babyboy (111 D)
29 Mar 13 UTC
Noobi Tourney issue 2
Results so far
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hellalt (40 D)
28 Mar 13 UTC
new gunboat
gameID=113745
24hrs/turn, 101 buy in, wta, anon.
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
29 Mar 13 UTC
Any interest in a small 7-man tournament?
Could be gunboat, could be full press, public press.

I'm thinking 25 or 50 buy in per game.
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SUperazn3 (513 D)
29 Mar 13 UTC
Unpause Help
Could a moderator please unpause my game. The GameID is 113158. Thanks
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Barn3tt (41969 D)
29 Mar 13 UTC
SXS EOG
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=113819
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mellman (242 D)
28 Mar 13 UTC
game still paused!
please help, posted in another thread yesterday morning but its still paused out.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=111880
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The Czech (39951 D(S))
26 Mar 13 UTC
webdiplomacy.it
Does anyone know what happened to the site?
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erist (228 D(B))
28 Mar 13 UTC
Highway 66
Classic Full Press - Anon - WTA - medium-high entry (66)

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Gen. Lee (7588 D(B))
29 Mar 13 UTC
EOG: From Genevia with Love
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
28 Mar 13 UTC
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Dear All Mass Media,
Please stop displaying the Newtown shooter's name to the public. The fact that you all force us to remember him is what motivates other wackos to do it again. People like me that have had their lives affected by killing don't appreciate it.
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DW (165 D)
29 Mar 13 UTC
Moderator help - ww-38
Like a few other games mentioned below in this forum this game is refusing to unpause. Is it possible for a moderator to unpause it?
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NoPantsJim (100 D)
28 Mar 13 UTC
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Another noob question, what's the appeal of no in-game messaging?
Just seems to me that exchanging private messages, and people lying to you with them, would be the most interesting part of the way the game plays out. No messaging at all feels like it would take away all the diplomatic relations in the game, which are what the entire game is based on!

So what's the appeal, and why are they so popular here?
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josunice (3702 D(S))
28 Mar 13 UTC
GB Tourney - Italian Openings
How should Italy open in a quality GB game?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
28 Mar 13 UTC
I'm Gonna Be Bold Here...
...There's still 30 seconds left in the game but Reggie Miller is no longer in the NBA and THE HEAT ARE DOWN 9 TO THE CHICAGO BULLS.

I think they lost. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaleluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuyaaaahhhhhhh!
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
25 Mar 13 UTC
Subs for The Masters
Hello all, I'm in need of one sub for The Masters Tourney. I'll probably need more eventually, so feel free to show your interest. Would include taking over two current games and 5 games yet to start.
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blankflag (0 DX)
28 Mar 13 UTC
when did woody harrelson go nuts?
has anyone seen this? first micheal moore and now woody harrelson? what is up with these b-listers claiming that the political system is a sham and that there is no difference between the parties?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bxI1skgga1U#!
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blankflag (0 DX)
28 Mar 13 UTC
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obama signs gmo protection act
funding bill contains a provision that makes companies like monsanto have the right to ignore any courts finding them liable for damages from proven dangerous genetically modified organisms and not have to pay any compensation to the victims.
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Celticfox (100 D(B))
28 Mar 13 UTC
Lumosity
I've been trying out this site for about a week now. Anyone else use it? If so have they seen any improvement outside of the games themselves. I'm interested if this actually does have any affect on habits outside of the games.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
Were a lot of combat planes used in WWI?
It's for a speech for school in English of 4 minutes, tomorrow, just came up with the subject combat planes and I think I know enough about WWII but if someone could tell me about if, how and how much they were used in WWI and any other useful information (everything welcome but the speech will be rather general, just as deep as it needs to be for 4 interesting minutes) that would be very helpful!
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
And yes, that might sound a bit lazy but I'm just really busy and don't have time for deep research, if you don't believe me look at my games, I'm running out of time for these too :)

Also, please don't hijack this thread for the next 4 hours, after that do whatever you want!
steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
And alternatively you could always just send me one of your old speeches :)
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Mar 13 UTC
I had an interview from one of the copilots that dropped the atomic bomb on Nagasaki... maybe I could dig up something. I don't know what I have though.
ulytau (541 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
I don't think he served in WWI.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Mar 13 UTC
Oh hey, I didn't read. Thanks uly... I saw WWII in the OP and posted away >_>
steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
WWII is fine too, as long as it's combat planes and interesting and i can tell it
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Mar 13 UTC
Look up the BF-109 and the Spitfire.
Octavious (2701 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
For WWII a few notable aircraft include the Swordfish (which was used in the first carrier aircraft vs ship battle in history), the iconic StuKa Ju 87 dive bomber, and the Hurricane (which was the backbone of the RAF in the battle of Britain). There are scores of them though.... you could talk for hours about them.

For WW1 the only really famous plane is the Fokker Dr.1 Triplane, which was used by the Red Baron to shoot down the jolly fine men of the Royal Flying Corps. There were quite a few designs about. Mostly they were used as spy planes and fighters to shoot down enemy spy planes, but you'd get the occasional bomber too.

More fun to talk about are the kites (which would have a man tied to them so he would fly in the air and spy on the enemy) and the Zeppelins (massive German airships that would float slowly over London and drop bombs on it).
Maniac (189 D(B))
27 Mar 13 UTC
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ah a good speech should be like a lady's skirt..........long enough to cover everything, but short enough to keep the interest.

krellin (80 DX)
27 Mar 13 UTC
WWI aircraft were originally used for scouting, not combat per se. Of course, were there is war, machines are turned to such purpose, so they started carrying guns and carrying (yes, carrying, inside the craft) bombs, which literally were tossed overboard. More of a harassing technique to throw a bomb overboard.

In time, of course, on-board guns were exchanged for built in weapons - which presented problems...like when your machine gun that is literally mounted in front of the pilot (so he can pull the tigger) shoots off the blades of your aircraft, you tend to crash...thus engineers went to work, end developed guns that would fire in time with the propellor. Likewise, on-board-throw-overboard bombs were replaced by a bomb that could be carried and released...thus allowing for larger bombs...such that by the end of the war, aircraft had transformed from simple tools of reconnaissance to the precursors of the death machines they became in WWII. But as far as a destructive component of WWI, the aircraft was never truly that destructive as compared to the existing weapons on the ground - i.e. artillery and chemical weapons, which were far more devastating that aircraft.

Aircraft were also used to shoot down balloons, which were used for field recon -- balloons: the precursor to satellites, in a way.

There were a few famous WWI pilots - "The Red Baron", who really was a German Baron (I believe) Baron von Rictoff (speling is wrong - look it up) who had many kills from his tri-plane before finally disappearing/being killed - but by far the most famous pilot of WWI

Why tri-plane? or Bi-planes in WWI? Better lift, as the engines were not that powerful.


Hope that ll helps - just stuff off the top of my head.
murraysheroes (526 D(B))
27 Mar 13 UTC
Got to go the tide-turner of the Battle of Britain or the first appearance of the kamikazes in the Battle of Leyte Gulf. Either one of those could net plenty of interesting talking time for just a little bit of research.
krellin (80 DX)
27 Mar 13 UTC
Both WW II...what don't you people get about his desire for WW ONE info???
steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
krellin, it's going to be about both, and I stated I'm interested in info from both...
Next post I'll tell a bit about what I'm having so far etc. so it's easier to help, for now, any more info on the kites and Zeppelins Octavious is talking about...
murraysheroes (526 D(B))
27 Mar 13 UTC
I like that krellin didn't read before posting.
"any other useful information (everything welcome but the speech will be rather general, just as deep as it needs to be for 4 interesting minutes) that would be very helpful!"
"WWII is fine too, as long as it's combat planes and interesting and i can tell it"
Don't come after a history teacher who specializes in that particular era...I know which stories are the interesting ones.

jmo1121109 (3812 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_in_World_War_I

Has basically everything you will need.

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/ww1-fighter-aircraft.asp

^lists most of the planes from the time.
steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
Also, a little terminology: what should I say I'm talking about, so including the planes, kites and zeppelins? Is aircraft a slang-word for plane or does that include the kites and zeppelins? If not, what word does?
steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
and is Zeppelin the same as airship?
Octavious (2701 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
Zeppelins were a type of airship designed by a German called Count Zeppelin. There are some nice pictures on the internet. I think the French also used them, or similar things. Fighters armed with incendary bullets were needed to bring them down, and once that trick was developed they stopped being popular.

YadHoGrojaUL (330 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
The first country to use fixed wing powered aircraft in a war situation was Italy (vs Turkey in 1910.)
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
27 Mar 13 UTC
Just look up Battle of Britain ...... read about some true heroes, learn what a fabulous job the Canadian Air Force did in in helping the RAF keep the fascists at bay. They joined the war when it started, their heroics would make you proud. It is one of the greatest most incredible battles ever.
Steephie in "All Quiet on the Western Front" . the protagontist say something like ..

We don't mind the fighters so much. It is the reconnasaince planes that bring down artillery on our positions that we hate. The author Remarque was a German soldier in WWI so you can take it as a primary source of sorts.

The major role of aircraft, as Krellin said, was to find the enemy and bring back reprot on their positions. Artillery was MUCH more deadly that the innacurate bombs and tiny machineguns that planes were equipped with.

On the other hand I disagree with krellin about the notoriety of pilots.

Yes Manfred von Richtoffen (the Red Baron) was the most notable with 80 kills

but these guys were instant heros. Becoming an ace (five confirmed kills) was a big deal and the propaganda machines of every nation pumped out praise for their "knights of the sky".

Britain has Albert Ball

France had Guynemer & Nungesser

Germany had Richtoffen
(both of them Manfred and his little brother Lothar had 120 kill between them)

They also had Oswald Boelcke (he wrote the definitive book on dogfighting with basic principle that are still in use today). He also trained Richtoffen and would probably have surpassed Richtoffen's 80 kill if he had not dies in a training accident.

Germany also had Max Immelman (seen Star Wars? The Millenium Falcon always uses an Immelman turn named after him) half loop up spin level out and come back guns blazing.
rs2excelsior (600 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
The Fokker DR-1 Triplane wasn't actually that popular in WWI. The Red Baron used it near the end of his career, which is why it has become famous, but many other German pilots hated them. The series of Albatross fighters (biplanes as opposed to triplanes) were probably the most common German fighters. The only other Fokker fighter craft I know of was the Eindekker, which wasn't that good either (though Fokker did come up with the interrupter gear that stopped a machinegun from firing when the propeller was in the way).
On the Allied side, Sopwith made several models of fighters, including the Pup and, near the end of the war, the famous Camel. Neiuport made a lot, and the SE-5a (not made by either, if I can remember) was another fairly good, late war plane.
As to terminology, I think aircraft encompasses anything that flys. Yes Zeppelins (also called derrigibles) are aircraft. I don't know about kites never heard of them being used in WWI before.

A derrigible had a metal frame (look up footage of the HIndenburg crash and you'll see what I mean)

derrigibles and blimps are two main kinds of airships.

blimp actually comes from a distinction between the two.

derrigibles were classified (Balloon: rigid) and blimps were classified (balloon: limp)
so while derrigibles became Zeppelins after their designer, B: limp became blimp in common usage.
Don't forget the Fokker D VII. It was probably the best fighter plane of the war.
krellin (80 DX)
27 Mar 13 UTC
"krellin, it's going to be about both, and I stated I'm interested in info from both..."

Actually, the OP says you want info on WWI, "...and I think I know enough about WWII..."

So...no, you didn't say you are interested in both. And murraysheroes can't read, either, as his attack on me takes your OP out of context.

Here's a hint: DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH instead of insulting those who tried to help, and tried to keep the help focused on what YOU said you needed.

But shit...you could have found all this out in far less time that it takes to read and decipher all this. and what...you are seriously going to do a speech based upon unverified info you get on WebDip? That speaks *volumes* about either your education, or you...probably both...

steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
krellin, I did not mean to offend you, your info has been very useful to me and I was going to thanks you for that... So, thank you! As for who's right, I don't really care honestly, I thank everybody for the help.
Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
27 Mar 13 UTC
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Top US ace of WWI was Eddie Rickenbacker. He has a book about the war as well. He went on to become the president of Eastern Airlines. Better fighter pilot than CEO I guess since they went bankrupt (not under his watch though).
steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
Reading back, you're right though, but I also stated everything's welcome :)
steephie22 (182 D(S))
27 Mar 13 UTC
Little English thing... Is it one aircraft, two aircraft etc? Or two aircrafts?
Steephie,

If you have a short talk to give, I'd focus on fighter aircraft having limited use but high notoriety. We still know "The Red Baron" nearly 100 years after the war, but can you name a single observer? It is interesting to look at the lives of the aces and the information is easy to obtain.

On the other hand you have two seaters, balloons, and other reconnasaince aircraft that wee highly effective in bringing down artillery on the enemy and almost zero notoriety. The Quote from All Quiet on the Western Front would be agood place to begin.

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josunice (3702 D(S))
28 Mar 13 UTC
Reduce CDs, Increase Takeovers, Improve Site Considerably
Consensus looked like:
- When a player would CD (or on a first move), instead of a CD, the player is booted and the phase length resets.
- Changing the buy in to encourage take overs once vacated -- first 3 centers free.
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jercules (350 D)
28 Mar 13 UTC
HELP! Game refuses to unpause!
We've got a game going (C-3PO) that has been paused for a day or two now. We're given the options: draw, unpause, cancel, and for whatever reason when we click unpause nothing happens. Under one player it lists 'Votes: Draw, unpause, cancel'--this player also missed the last phase. Could anyone let us know how to get our game unpaused?
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blankflag (0 DX)
28 Mar 13 UTC
another step towards the goal of seizing lebanese land
http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/israel-warns-lebanon-of-total-destruction-in-new-war/
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roo (1018 D)
28 Mar 13 UTC
Game unpaused
Could I have two games unpaused.
Game Id = 113197
Game Id = 112622 thanks
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