Hm, Obi. I have to take some initial issues with what you're saying here.

1. The video you provided as evidence only shows the confrontation - it does not show what made the woman in the pink sweater react like that.
2. Have you seen what happened to make her react like that?
3. If not, then it's unethical to make presumptions.
4. From that video, the woman in the pink sweater woman comes across to me as a bit highly strung and stressed - most likely due to her finals.

5. As for "into our Cal States U's? They're already impacted!". I don't understand this slang.

6. I hasten to add that the people taking the video do come across as rude and obnoxious, deliberating trying to annoy the woman.
7. But don't American University libraries have staff that could have handled this?

9. I just rewatched the video and I must admit the pink sweater woman is a little scary.

1. I think it's rather evident the girls cackling behind the camera--and really, someone TAPING YOU during finals is enough to set someone off, that's just a total invasion of pricacy, but the way they said "Here she comes!" indicates they WERE goading her and trying to make her come over there, ie, in anger...so I think it's safe to assume their attitude DID set her off.

2. Again, I think we can infer from that statement I quoted above...they were being jerks and disruptive, it was Finals, she was stressed as it was...

3. I'm making an inference based on evidence, not wild a wild assumption (and for whatever it counts, the Internet feedback so far seems to agree with my interpretation thus far...a lot of folks are making the same conclusion and relating similar stories...)

4. Again, yes, she was clearly high-strung as it was, but they had no right to clearly goad her and TAPE HER...*I* would raise my voice a tad under such conditions as well.

5. Our Cal State Universities...the CSU California-State-University system...they're already so full many students that would normally get in--myself included--go to community colleges now for a couple of years because with UC schools now so hgihly priced and the economy a wreck, typicallyUC-bound kids are flooding CSUs for the lower-but-still-high-tuition, causing those schools to be so full that, again, many students can't get in/choose to take classes at a community college for a bit to lessen the load, as getting ANY classes now are hard at CSUs, let alone all the ones you need to graduate.

So, yes:

People like THIS, taunting, heckling fools, should NOT be clogging up the system, and getting in the way of those who actually DO want to go to school and work!

bah she's just freaking out due to stress... I was told to be quiet in a library once. I immediately was overwhelmed with shame and STFU. Makers of this video should have done the same.

"7. But don't American University libraries have staff that could have handled this?"

And clearly they weren't..........

"9. I just rewatched the video and I must admit the pink sweater woman is a little scary."

You mean "8."...as this was following "7." ;)

Yes, I do :)
but it's past 3am here so I think I can have some slack cut for me :)

"but it's past 3am here so I think I can have some slack cut for me"

No it's not. It's not even 11 yet.
God, your counting needs some work.

...Time zones, Yonni?

God, my jokes are not going over well tonight,,,

Sarcasm, Yonni, is very difficult to convey in text.

No, I'm on the side of people behind the camera. If you want complete silence go to a cubicle. If you study in a place with tables like that you need to expect that other people will be talking.

Lay off the jeremiads for a while, obiwanobiwan.

And if you want to laugh, goad people, talk, and film people...

Get the fuck out of a LIBRARY.

If this were the commons, or just a public quad, or a Starbucks, I'd side with them.

It's a LIBRARY.

You go there to STUDY...NOT to goad people like that and then take advantage of them.

how about this woman goes to another room like any sane person would do in a similar situation, not fly off the handle and attack the whole room. How do you sympathize with her?

it looks to me like the girl had been going off for a while before and they were talking and laughing at the sight of it

she was probably provoked

either way shit happens, it wasn't even that bad, could've made herself look much much worse.

attacking the whole room?

throwing shit around maybe? i dunno

physical attack, that would've done it for me

she did slam her stuff down at the end and telling everyone they suck

I'm not saying what she did was totally rational...

I agree:

She was stressed, and could have handled this better.

But my point is:

1. she shouldn't HAVE to go to another room when she's studying in the library and they're cackling and bothering her and clearly goading here...if anyone should be leaving because they're behaving inappropriately in this setting its those behind the camera filming, goading, and doing all of this IN A LIBRARY, which brings me to

2. THIS IS A LIBRARY! The Asian girl is using it for its proper purpose...the other girls are not!

3. Perhaps she had nowhere else to go? Perhaps outside it was noisy, and cafes are noisy, and perhaps--we don't know--she lives in the dorms, WHICH ARE NOISY...she may have thought the library was the only place she could really get work done...and to her credit--THAT'S ITS PURPOSE.



I guess if anything, I'm saying:

1. Asian Girl overreacted but
2. The Other Girls were clearly in the wrong, and as this is a library
3. THEY should not have been there, and
4. If the Asian girl is in the library to study, SHE should not have to be the one forced to leave

Quite false. There will be talking at tables like that, even if this is a section dedicated to really being completely quiet. The people filming were still wrong, but the girl overreacted and brought this upon herself. She should have moved instead of trying to make that whole area into a graveyard. By yelling at people besides the group filming we can safely assume there was some background chatter throughout.

If you need quiet and there isn't any then move. I find it extremely unlikely that my university is the only one with cubicles where silence is universal. I do admit to being spoiled, though. The University of Illinois has the third largest university library system in the US. Oskee Wow-Wow!

Um, guys. They're women. Not girls.

"it looks to me like the girl had been going off for a while"

If she HAD been going off for a while, provoke enough, and these sleazballs had THAT amount of time to first goad and then tape her...

Again, Asian Girl overreacted...but to put the shoe on the other foot:

As this is a library, the designated place for quiet and study...

How can you side with those that are 1. Impeding that stated function and 2. Clearly bullying this girl, to the point she snapped?

That's just not right...

"Um, guys. They're women. Not girls."

Shut up.

"1. she shouldn't HAVE to go to another room when she's studying in the library and they're cackling and bothering her and clearly goading here...if anyone should be leaving because they're behaving inappropriately in this setting its those behind the camera filming, goading, and doing all of this IN A LIBRARY, which brings me to"

The girl had obviously been walking aound the room talking before the video start, how do you know how it started? Its obvious this filming started mid-rampage not before hand.

"2. THIS IS A LIBRARY! The Asian girl is using it for its proper purpose...the other girls are not!"

What? scolding people?

"3. Perhaps she had nowhere else to go? Perhaps outside it was noisy, and cafes are noisy, and perhaps--we don't know--she lives in the dorms, WHICH ARE NOISY...she may have thought the library was the only place she could really get work done...and to her credit--THAT'S ITS PURPOSE."

Perhaps shes a major bitch and is taking out her frusteration and stress on other people without cause. How the hell do you know

"2. The Other Girls were clearly in the wrong, and as this is a library"

How the fuck do you know. It seems to me when they first say "shes coming over here" It is the first time she does so. It seems to me this girl had scolded another, or a few tables giving her that reputation. It would make the girls announcement at the end of the rampage that she hates the whole room make sense. Bottom line, you have no clue whether it was rational or who is to blame

"4. If the Asian girl is in the library to study, SHE should not have to be the one forced to leave "

If she is scolding people who are breathing hard or whispering than she should.

copy pasting youtube's highest rated comments:

"Was watching this and figured this girl was crazy, then I realized black women were talking with their big mouths as usual... its a library not a KFC!"

"Black people have no respect for anyone but themselves.. They were rude to this girl, she was stressed, she asked the girls to be quiet, and honestly, I see nothing wrong with how she acted. They had lack of respect for her and that isn't right."

lol the public have spoken!

This thread is funny because some guy tried to punch me this week at our library because I asked if he could quiet down.... People are a bit too high strung during finals week...

not to mention that you do not know the rules of that section of the library, library I was at had quiet study sections and normal study sections where whispering or low talking was accepted