The N also means that I deal much more with concepts than with actual bits of data which is why I think that most people here are N's (just look at our debates).

I like their lawnmowers... Oh wait, that's Briggs-Straton. Seriously, I took the DiSC test not to long ago. It's another form of personality test and they are all just trying to encapsulate that which cannot be captured into specific boxes when we are more than just four or five dimensions on a chart. In short, I consider them complete and utter BS.

INTP here, and I find the MBT or a MMPT to be vary descriptive and not especially useful beyond description of a personality type.

Can you extract more information from the personality test than you put in? I find that this is an issue with the majority of personality tests...

For example, you are asked something like, "When you enter a social situation, do you tend to let others initiate conversation or do you take initiative?", "Do you consider yourself a shy person in unfamiliar contexts?" and you answer "let others initiate" and "yes" and it tells you you're Introverted! That means that you tend to be shy in unfamiliar contexts and will tend to let others initiate conversation rather than starting it yourself! I mean, it'll usually be more complex, and much more paraphrased, but the idea I get is that it simply takes your answers, classifies you into a bunch of categories it has, whether it be colours, numbers, or letters, and then basically regurgitates your answers in a roundabout way as if to tell you something about yourself you didn't know.

I'm usually put off with the idea of this "gather energy from being with people as opposed to being alone". What the hell does that mean? Like I know that it means that some people need to "charge up" on their own and that social situations may exhaust them, where as others somehow "feed off" of others in social situation to gather energy. Is this science? Or really bad analogy? Might I suggest that extroverts are in fact social carnivores and introverts their herbivorous prey? =P

Me too jman, nice!

Did you know Benny Goodman and Richard Nixon were also ENTJs? Haha.

I am borderline on E and N though, about 50/50.

However N and P are not what you described them as exactly they related more to whether you are a "big picture" type or not. It related to how "detail oriented" you are.

yeah are so many facets to both the second and fourth letters (all actually) that I couldn't really go into them in the OP's. haha But yeah I'm definitely NOT a detail person. And I'm only about a 20% E aswell (so like 60-40). I am a pretty strong N though.

INTP

I haven't taken that test in a while, and I've changed since then, I think, anyway...

Anyone have a link, could be fun...though truth be told I really don't like psychology, AT ALL...

I am also an INTP.

(Interestingly enough, my wife is an ESFJ.)

INTP as well . . . sadly, though, it doesn't seem to help my Diplomacy playing. Also with an ESFJ wife.

INTJ. I wrote a little bit on this earlier in the summer, if anyone's interested in knowing what all the letters mean. (Granted, it's mostly a nice restatement of what's already known.)

I'm INTJ, but Its a close desicion for each letter. For example, in E/I, I tend to act first, think later like an extrovert, but the rest says I'm introvert.

Haha, see we are all NT's aren't we. And that's interesting I would've expected an INTP/ESFJ combo. I'm curious, what exactly is it like?

And Obiwan, really? I would've thought that with your love of philosophy you'd love psych too.

For couples, you usually expect the attitude and lifestyle (E/I and J/P) to be different, but the functions (N/S and T/F) to be the same. This is because the functions are the core part of it, how we interact with the world; couples generally seek people with similar means of interacting with the world, people that "think like them," but they seek varying ways of expression (hence attitude and lifestyle different).

for the record
attitude - e/i
function - n/s
function - t/f
lifestyle - j/p

INTP, with being close to INFP

@jman777 - It is interesting. We both ride the fence on two letters and are extremes in the other two, but even those are opposites. I'm extremely i and and n, borderline t and p. She's extremely f and j, while borderline e and s.

That's probably a big part of what makes it work. When she's off the wall emotional about something (here 'f' coming out) I can empathize a little better than an extreme 't' would be able to. When I've shut myself in my office to hide from the world, she can empathize better than an extreme 'e' could.

@ Conservative Man - Act first, think later doesn't have anything to do with the i/e dichotomy. That's more of a s/n thing. That's probably actually the 'n' coming out in you (going with your gut, like any good 'n' would).

Do not these tests just capture what's going on with the person at that moment. After all people act different depending on their mood, and what's going on in their life at that time?

the fact is NT's like these tests far more than SJs, so the response rate will be very self-selective.

I personally like Kiersy's "Please Understand me II" as it is a more 'fleshed out' Myers-Briggs. and for those interested enough to search online, there is a treatment of different types and how they game, it includes references to THIS game actually.

by the way - I dont like the term 'personality test'... it is more of a 'temperament test' which measures one's underlying tendencies rather then outright personality traits which are affected to a greater degree by one's environment.

with all that said, I'm an ENFP, though my brother is an INTJ ;)

@Triumvir: It was in the I/E section though, which I did think was strange. And I'm borderline for all four, which I guess is pretty interesting.

"Act first think second" is F-dominant trait, not N or E. Which is odd for a T... but then again, a narrow T as opposed to an extreme T would probably exhibit that trait.

@Babak: You're the first non-NT.

*eta: should be F-dominant

And your brother is the same as me.

That was at Babak, btw.

Actually, I just realized that I'm a INTP, not J, so I'm different than Babak's brother.

I think it's interesting that most people here are I's and not E's.

And that's very interesting Triumvir. I'm sure that each of your softness's definitely help the relationship work a run smoothly. I'd love to do mass surveys about this kind of stuff, haha.

And @Babak you're definitely right. N's in general are much more inclined to like a personality test of this sort compared with S's.

Very interesting! I did this test when I started architecture school. When we got the results, we'd separate all the students out by the category (go to opposites sides of the classroom) and get to ask the others a question. I remember the E's asked us I's what we did when we went to a party where we didn't know anybody. Our response was pretty simple, why the hell would we go to a party where we didn't know anybody! It was pretty funny, at least to us I's.

Anyway, I am, or at least was, an ISTJ. I think it's pretty damn funny I'm the opposite of Babak, no wonder he's always pissing me off! ;-)

By the way. I just took this again. I'm apparently an ENTJ now, but my margin of preference for E was 1%. =P