Did I inadvertently inspire this thread?

No. This was inspired by someone who was posting with absolutely no logic whatsoever, and was meant to flame them.

See this description of his debating ability:
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong

While I obviously feel strongly that your research is, shall we say, less than scientifically rigorous, I generally don't go out of my way to mock people just because I disagree with them.

Wow, stratagos. We really CAN'T agree on anything.

First of all, the term "UFO" is widely abused. Unidentified flying objects DO exist. I won't dispute that. People spot man-made objects and fail to identify them correctly ALL THE TIME.

Second, aliens do not exist. If there is a "Conspiracy", it is obviously covering up experimental military projects, not alien life.

Third, people should keep their noses out of the DoD's private business. If the government is hiding something, that means that it would be harmful to our interests if someone revealed/discovered that something. The government doesn't hide stuff for the hell of it.

Fourth, 99.9% of all "UFOs" have been explained as weather balloons, satillites, PhotoShopped, or declassified by the military, like the Roswell UFO Incident: "In 1994/5, the Air Force published a report which concluded that Mogul Flight #4, launched from Alamogordo, New Mexico, on June 4, 1947, was what crashed near Roswell, New Mexico, and formed the source of the debris which sparked the Roswell UFO Incident." (Wikipedia/Project Mogul)

And for the 0.1% that hasn't been explained? Obviously still classified by the military.

"Second, aliens do not exist" You don't believe aliens exist AT ALL? Even if they've never visited Earth, I'm sure they exist.

@TMW - Dude. Seriously. With all the practice you have trolling, you can't recognize someone who's pulling something out of his ass just to see what people say? That's just pathetic.


@ TMW & CM
I'm not going to bother debating the existence or nonexistence of sentient life outside the solar system unless you bone up on the Drake Equation.

To be frank, neither of you have either the education or - more importantly - the inclination to learn and think logically to make it worth my time to debate you. I can make cheap shots all day at this point - and will continue to do so - without having to justify my views or back up my statements with citations - you've done that to yourselves with your past idiocy.

To engage in a rigorous debate with someone who isn't even going to bother trying would be like... I can't even think of a metaphor to describe the futility and wasted time. In any case, when you choose to grow up, let me know

Pas...t idiocy

Damn this phone. Sometimes I think the aliens are screwing with me

@Stratagos: I don't really want to get into a debate about my debating skills, but please show me 2 stupid arguments I have made ( And by stupidity, I mean logical stupidity. Just because I was wrong and admitted it doesn't make my arguments for that thing had stupid logic.)

Why should I? You won't admit it when I do; I'm not particularly interested in shouting at a wall.

Wow.

This whole thread was a colossal waste of time for me to read. CS, I'm so sorry but you can't cite TV as a resource, ESPECIALLY the History Channel (or should I say hysteria channel). Seriously, everything they produce is something like "did Nostradamus warn us of how Hitler built the pyramids with bigfoot to fight of aliens from the future who assasinated president Kennedey and went Ice Road Trucking with the KGB!?"

"did Nostradamus warn us of how Hitler built the pyramids with bigfoot to fight of aliens from the future who assasinated president Kennedey and went Ice Road Trucking with the KGB!?"

KW +1

@CM - if you insist on one, yea, that whole "I saw it on TV so it's true" thing? Pretty damn stupid

Screw that, abgemacht. KW +1000, man. That was absolutely hillarious!

@Stratagos: I had thought the History Channel was a reliable source. Not really my fault.

@KW: Hey, Ice Road Truckers is a pretty good show.

They should rename themselves to the Conspiracy Theorist's Alternate History Channel.

@CM - you were told multiple times that they were not reliable and continued to cite them. Once your source's credibility has been brought into question, a logical thing would be to see if you could find other sources that confirmed your viewpoint. You did not, just as you never do.

Your lack of critical thinking appears to be beyond a lack of education and appears to be willful. And if you want to be willfully ignorant, then there's really no point in trying to convince you of anything. You knows what you knows

Draugnar + 1 for giving KW the appropriate amount of points.

@ stratagos -- I AM thinking logically. You're not.

Of course you are TMW

*pats head*

You just keep telling yourself that.

@Stratagos: I only cited things they SHOWED. If you look back at the debate, you will see that I relinquished any arguments that did not have any visible evidence shown on the show. (Later I relinquished all the rest)

"They should rename themselves to the Conspiracy Theorist's Alternate History Channel" Only some of the time. I wouldn't call Modern Marvels or The Universe alternate history.

But why in the world would aliens *want* to build pyramids for us? I can't really get past that point.

Have you not seen that I have admitted defeat?

@CM - That's nice. Do you intend to broaden your information sources and critical thinking skills so we're not repeating this over and over again? Because a lot of the Things You Know Are True are nothing of the sort

"Do you intend to broaden your information sources" Yes