The France that was banned wasn't banned until the game was over obviously.

Well, that certainly is an interesting WTA gunboat...

Wow, Azogar with another multi?

Seriously. How long is this shit going to go on? He's done this about ten times that I've personally seen.

He should be banned. End of story.
He will only play anon games since alot of us are on to him and will either crush him if he played where we able to see him enter a game.or refuse to play any game he was in.

cant the admin to check the ip address and wont allow the same ip's to enter a match?

No. It can't.

And he should be banned, and his games retroactively canceled.

Shino, my 16 year old son and I both play from the same computer. Although he's been sticking to olidip lately, but still, some of us share IPs.

@Alderian I know what you mean about sharing IPs, but I think that Shino meant that the same IP shouldn't be able to join the same game more than once. I could be wrong though.

Hrmm, that seems somewhat viable. I certainly don't play in games with him. On the other hand, a lot of people have multiple access points. I've got two computers at home plus my work computer plus my work laptop. My son has the two computers at home plus his phone plus all the computers at his school.

I imagine a lot of other people also have more than one access point, so a cheater could get around such a barrier fairly easily.

Hmmm, the banned player has since been unbanned.

Re: IPs. Many schools/businesses share a single public IP amongst their internal users, so that restriction on his IP could have repercussions for others depending on where his IP is issued from. Add to the factors involved that most home IPs are dynamic (that is, shut down your DSL/cable modem wait 10 minutes, and power it back up and you have a good chance of having a whole new public IP) and restricting IPs becomes useless.

Every time I hear this, I think "Another amateur who thinks they know something spouts off and proves their ignorance again."

I would very much like an explanation from the mods...

to make a long story short:

i had been playing france for some turns, than i had been banned for obscure reasons before the end of the game.
later i have sent this message to moderators:

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Hi,

I want to know why my account (Luzavolo) has been banned from the site.

Certainly there has been a mistake.
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a moderator sent me this reply on Monday, March 22, 2010 2:06 PM:

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I couldn't find a reason, so I've unbanned the account.

To double check, I'll be looking in to make sure that everything is ok in a month or so's time. Please check-up the rules to make sure everything is ok then:

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/rules.php
And enjoy playing

TheGhostmaker
(Moderator on webdiplomacy.net)
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later, i have continued to play france in this game but my profile message haven't been changed yet.
for this reason you think me to be banned but i wasn't.

now i have changed my profile message to avoid any further confusion.

i have forget to say two things:

the first one: i'm not who are you saying;
the second one: you must stop accusing people every time you lose a game.

Why didn't you stop the solo in the above game?

@Dave just look at his game history.

If you don't want to be accused, Luzavolo, you probably shouldn't have a game history that makes you look like Azogar's toady in 75% of you games. The moves you make in WTA games are suicidal. While accusations shouldn't be public, I can't say I disagree with the accusation. I notice that among the things you say, "I am not metagaming with Azogar," is curiously absent. I'm hoping that in a month's time, either that behavior changes or Ghost's decision changes.

I absolutely agree with Stukus. I've personally played a few gunboats, and my experience has been that no matter how kind a player has been in a game, you can never trust him more than an enemy because he can stab you at any time he wants to. and it's very odd for players to not stop the solo and games as such.


furthermore, as a new player, you should be very confused about the game in general, and it's odd to find new players playing gunboat games and winning second place....

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.It is a duck

I don't know how odd it is for new players to come second in gunboats. New players here might not be new to the game. I believe I won my first game on this site.

@Jimbozig: It's not odd that he came in 2nd in a gunboat WTA, it's odd that he came in 2nd in 3 Gunboat WTAs (out of 4 total games) and it was the same person winning each of those 3 games.

Anonymous games especially.

And at least one of them was anonymous so he shouldn't have known who was in the game. Amazing coincidence though.

Lets look at Luzavolo's game history. He's played four games. Three of them were with Azogar. Azogar won all three games, whereas Luzavolo came in a close second in WTA and made no attempt to stop him.

That speaks for itself.

In fact, in one game, Lulzavo had Azogar stalemated, and intentionally moved past the satle mate and gave Azogar a center when he easily could have protected it (Bur SH Munich was unnecessary, and could have easily moved to Mars to bounce. gameID=25125)

I don't care if a Mod comes on and tells me you're not a multi, or if angels come down and say you're Jesus Christ reincarnate, nothing will EVER convince me that you are not a cheater. GTFO our site.

Oh yeah, and each of those games were Anonymous gunboats, in addition to WTA.

Yeah right.

In that other game that Luzavolo won, i seem to remember accusations getting thrown all across the board in every direction. After the game, i got contacted by Doofman (Turkey) who told me to look at his profile, which i found odd. Also, if you look at the chatbox log for the game he won, there was a very random convo going on afterwards.

I realize how terrible it is for people to make wrong accusations, but I truly do not believe this is a wrong accusation. If we are wrong, prove us wrong...don't be so silent.

I don't think we should allow such cheating to occur at all.

@jimbozig

i won the first 2 games i played. but both were point-per-supply, new games with a very small pot. I didn't even know what winner takes all is, and i was rather nervous by how the turn goes.

It's just that his history can really be questioned....