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09 Apr 10 UTC

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Are we just reading and posting now.No game play.

Anybody want to play a live game.Post your preferences and we can get one started.or we can go on posting and reading.
@ghost. A quick turn around for a post,i agree

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It's Been Nearly a CENTURY Past... My Word, What Have We Learned?

It just now hit me, ironically after watching of all things a Peanuts special, where Charlie Brown, Peppermint Patty, Marcie, Snoopy, and Linus are in France, that we are only three, four years awat from the CENTENNIAL of the War that Did Not End All Wars... and, after reciting "In Flander's Fields" Linus asked the question that now is stuck in my mind- What Have We Learned? A century later... how it still affects us... how does it affect you?

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09 Apr 10 UTC

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Does anyone want to play a game?

Gun Boat live

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Fast game

Is anyone interested in a 5 minute turn game with anon players if so silent assassian is starting in 30 minutes

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live gunboat

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New live med game in 20 minutes

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26224
Anyone want to play?

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Live wta gunboat

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Sitter Needed!!

I'll be out nearly every weekend in April, so I need someone who can fill in. I'll PM you with my password.

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I have a problem with my computer. Help?

I have a game i was trying to uninstall. Well it would'nt let me uninstall. Not know much about computers i figured if i deleted all the files of the game it would be off my hardrive and i could reinstall it. Well i deleted the uninstall option.I cant even find a trace of the game. When i put the game in my computer it wont let me play (because i deleted all the files), and won't let me uninstall because i deleted that too. does anyone know how to get it off my computer?

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Join!

My first game back!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26211
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09 Apr 10 UTC

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live game starting in 10 minutes!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26217

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09 Apr 10 UTC

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Let's chat live

anyone uses msn/windows live messenger?

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07 Apr 10 UTC

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Obama... wow

see inside

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Hunter49r (189 )
07 Apr 10 UTC

I have not been one to call Obama a Nazi or Facists like some other people (aka Fox), but after looking at this recent article...

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/04/07/assassinations/index.html

"The Obama administration has taken the extraordinary step of authorizing the targeted killing of an American citizen, the radical Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, who is believed to have shifted from encouraging attacks on the United States to directly participating in them, intelligence and counterterrorism officials said Tuesday. . . ."

To put that into perspective for any foreigners not familiar with the most important government document and most basic set of laws, let's take a look at the bill of rights:
Amendment V- "No person shall be held to answer for a capital... nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;"
Amendment VI- "In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial"

Thoughts?

jimgov (219 )
07 Apr 10 UTC

Salon.com? Seriously?

Hereward77 (930 )
07 Apr 10 UTC

On a side note because I found this interesting...Amendment V says 'person'? Not 'citizen'? Very interesting indeed.

Hunter49r (189 )
07 Apr 10 UTC

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/07/world/middleeast/07yemen.html?hp

Hunter49r (189 )
07 Apr 10 UTC

@ Jimgov- is that better for you?

DingleberryJones (4469 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

This is the kind of Fascism that Foxwould be OK with. As am I.

jimgov (219 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

Yes it is. Thanks. I say kill him.

wydend (0 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

You should really clelify "him" jimgov. Some people may think you are talking about Obama =P

Chrispminis (916 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

This is a surprisingly Republican move. =P

I'm not ok with it... but I'm not American.

jimgov (219 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

That is my bad, wydend. I was responding too fast. I mean, kill the cleric.

DingleberryJones (4469 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

Are you not ok with targeted killings in general?

Hunter49r (189 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

He hasn't been proven guilty of anything though. How about we just allow the government to kill anyone who criticizes them?

DingleberryJones (4469 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

That's for chrispi

DingleberryJones (4469 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

Yes hunter. That's the same thing.

Hunter49r (189 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

and lol @ wyend. :D

Hunter49r (189 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

@DingleberryJones- If there is enough evidence against him, then why not bring him in for a trial? Even a mass-murderer has a right to a trial.

jimgov (219 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

Although none of us know the full story, it is obvious that this is a very dangerous person who is actively trying to kill Americans. His is not your run of the mill US citizen who is accused of a crime. He is living overseas and under the protection of either a foreign government or a radical group. You cannot just walk up to him and put him under arrest. And for anyone who thinks that the President just went out and said "kill him," that is absurd. I am sure that this has moved its way up the chain of command and has reached the point where the powers that be felt that this was the only way to deal with the situation. Obviously, their case was strong enough that it went to the President for the final go ahead and it was approved.

DingleberryJones (4469 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

No I'm content with a targeted killing. If theycould bring him in I'm sure they would. I'm ok with no trial yet have voted democratic since 1992.

PettyOfficer117 (0 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

Why do people believe that republicans as a group would be pro killing him. Is it because they are hard on terror or dont care about the constitution / Bill of rights (in this case)?

jimgov (219 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

Well I vote Democrat most of the time and I believe in being hard on terrorism.

Hunter49r (189 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

We were able to capture Saddam, but we can't get some guy hiding out in Yemen Dingle? That is a bullshit excuse. And what 'extraordinary threat' can he pose if he is in hiding? And he hasn't been shown guilty of ANYTHING except 'anti-American' talks, which is exactly what this country was founded on. He is SUSPECTED of some terrorist planning, but there are a lot of suspects that turn out to be innocent.

A quick search shows me that we have pretty good relations with Yemen, so I'm sure there would be no problem of extradition if we asked for help.

jimgov (219 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

You are right Hunter. We captured Saddam. It just took the entire US military, his own countrymen that he had tortured and fleeced for decades, and enough money to almost cause the collapse of the US economy. I say that price is too steep to pay again.

Hunter49r (189 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

In order to kill him, we need to know where he is. It would be just as easy to capture him once they know his whereabouts, correct?

Jack_Klein (897 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

If he is taking up arms against the US, this is roughly equivalent to a Confederate soldier getting killed on the battlefields of the Civil War. I believe the government at the time would claim that all Confederates were still citizens of the Union despite their actions to the contrary, yet its still not a violation of their rights when they get shot.

The big if is if he's actually in arms or not. If he is just providing rhetorical support, we shouldn't attempt to whack him. But if he's up in arms, fuck that guy. I would want to be sure, because as people have noted, its a damn slippery slope when you start trying to shoot American citizens.

And I'm a bleeding heart liberal.

ashleygirl (1131 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

It seems to me this individual relinquished his constitutional rights when he became actively engaged in trying to destroy the foundation in which this country was founded.

Hibiskiss (631 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

A Republican/Conservative move but not really surprising because Obama isn't a Liberal anyway, he's a Moderate and all of my criticisms of him are because of that.

@PettyOfficer: Republicans have been violating the Constitution, Geneva Convention and every document in between and in America the Republican/Conservatives actually advocate torture and the assassination of "enemy combatants" which is exactly what this guy is.

Sir Collars (302 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

@Hunter. It depends on the method of kill. Yes, if we sent in a special forces team with eyes on target, I suppose a capture would be relatively comparable--although arguable more hazardess to the operatives themselves, as they would have to approach the target in person, rather than say... sniping him from 1000y.

Alternatively, we could simply put a Tomahawk Strike Missile or some other guided munitions through his window...

urallLESBlANS (0 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

Both articles were very vague on what the president and government actually ordered. For all we know the order is to take Awlaki into custody and only kill if there is no other option. Personally if that were the case, I still have a hard time accepting the assassination of an American citizen or any person for that matter (I'm not ignorant enough to believe we haven't done such things even in recent years). Under the right circumstances, if the threat is imminent enough then I'd say it might be a necessary action, but should be exposed to the public.

Either way, if it is really as black and white as the articles make it out to be, then its hard to believe that we could have a government that doesn't have a very good reason for this. If not then I'm all for protesting.

@ashleygirl
The problem is do we really know whether he is "actively engaged in trying to destroy the foundation in which this country was founded". That is the purpose of a trial.

Hunter49r (189 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

"It seems to me this individual relinquished his constitutional rights when he became actively engaged in trying to destroy the foundation in which this country was founded."

By foundation on which this country was founded, do you mean the questioning of a corrupt government? because he seems to be an advocate FOR that, not against. He has been implemented in a crime, but all you have to do is take a peek at Guantanamo Bay to see that they aren't always right with their aquisations.

jimgov (219 )
08 Apr 10 UTC

To quote the article

"At a panel discussion in Washington on Tuesday, Representative Jane Harman, Democrat of California and chairwoman of a House subcommittee on homeland security, called Mr. Awlaki “probably the person, the terrorist, who would be terrorist No. 1 in terms of threat against us.”

THAT is not a bad citizen. That is a target that needs to be eliminated.

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S.E. Peterson (100

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09 Apr 10 UTC

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WTA Live Gunboat in 1 hour (40 point bet)

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26215

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08 Apr 10 UTC

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Obiwanobiwan does NOTE HATE GERMANS!!!

I am of that line being taken out of context, especially as my family is FROM GErmany, I merely said there is somewhat for some people of a negative stereotype for Germans being Nazis or all ruthless or whatever following the Wars, I said it was negative, I don't hold the view- so STOP CALING ME A RACIST! (I don't like being accused of something I'm not!)

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Developing a Variant- Place names wanted!

Figle and I have been working on a variant on diplomacy for about a month now. Its a pure fantasy map designed to try to make the gameplay good, and as a consequence, we need to come up with some names for provinces. See inside...

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live game in 5min gogogo

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26206

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Divine Comedy (Ancient Med. Map)

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26190

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07 Apr 10 UTC

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Ghost-Rating Based Game.

Please make yourself available to play a fine game with respected players!

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Live Game 5 mins

gameID=26196
3 spaces

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AGAIN

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Live Fast

JOIN ????
gameID=26194

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2 more 2 minutes - live

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26186

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Ancient Med Questions

I'm playing on the Ancient Med Variant and I am curious about some of the territories. Here is the game to help you see the picture of the map. gameID=25931.

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12 hr Dip

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26181

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Gunboat Live Anonymous

starting in 30min. Join: gameID=26180

Please do not post in this thread if you want to join up.
No multiple accounts!

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Jamie_nordli (122

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08 Apr 10 UTC

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1 hour ancient med

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26179

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LIVE NOW

Join the Game
gameID=26177

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08 Apr 10 UTC

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Anyone up for making a World Game Happen?

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26164

I know a few folks have expressed a desire for this. It's fun playing the regular board, but this could be epic-- plus, we won't have all the same old strategies to rely on. A real hootenanny.

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08 Apr 10 UTC

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live anon gunboat in 15 mins

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=26171

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