Reagan making his first speech as the Republican nominee after the convention in Philadelphia, MS, praising "State's Rights". Disgustingly open pandering to racists and it worked.

Men at Work ruled.

But Supertramp were doing the 80s sound in the 70s.

August 1, 1981 - MTV goes live

December 24, 1979

December 8, 1980

Saving Time for Others™:

December 24, 1979 - The initial Soviet deployment of the 40th Army in Afghanistan

December 8, 1980 – John Lennon is shot dead outside his apartment in New York City by Mark David Chapman.

Let's not be obscure - we're trying to communicate here, not check up what someone else might know!

1982, when FM radio completely overtook AM radio in listenership. This led to fragmented music tastes, ethnically cleansed the Hot 100, and consequently the multicultural ethos of the late 1960s/ 1970s was destroyed.

Not coincidentally, AM radio turned to political talk radio, and with restrictions eliminated on giving both sides equal time, the conservative movement acquired its vice grip on American politics.

1976 Republican convention where Nancy Reagan told commentators that Gerald Ford's entrance into the hall was too soon and cut into her husband's, Ronald Reagan's, bows. This show business faux pas pushed style over substance into Republican politics.

Whenever people started wearing windbreakers

Reagan legalizing corporate greed with deregulation after deregulation. Also, the rise of the NES corresponded to the rise in obesity levels in the US.

Some of you have no perspective. "Corporate greed" is what produced the phones and computers you use to connect to this forum. It produced the refrigerators that store your food and the tvs you watch and the cars you drive. Without corporate greed you wouldn't be able to whine about corporate greed because you would be too busy subsistence farming to stay alive.

No, scientific curiosity and the advent of miniaturization brought about the rise of computers and cell phones. Corporate greed turned the country from a constitutional republic into an oligarchy. I will admit, though, that the oligarchs have wisely used new tech to keep us preoccupied and blind to the truth. And just for the record, I don't whine. I bitch. Let's get that perfectly clear right now.

"Some of you have no perspective. "Corporate greed" is what produced the phones and computers you use to connect to this forum. It produced the refrigerators that store your food and the tvs you watch and the cars you drive. Without corporate greed you wouldn't be able to whine about corporate greed because you would be too busy subsistence farming to stay alive."

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Did that post time warp from the 80s?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF_iorX_MAw

"Greed is good." - Gordon Gecko

There is a difference from Henry Ford paying his workers so they could buy his cars and Wal-Mart that pays so little you have to buy the cheapest products.

Good thing there is no difference between the labor product produced by the automobile factory worker and the Walmart greeter. Clearly they should be paid equally.

Because those are the only two choices. Poverty wages where you have to get food stamps to survive or autoworker wages.

The beauty of Ford's assembly line was that there really was no specialty work. You did one menial job. All day. It took no individual talent to produce a Model-T. You just had to be faster than the next schmuck waiting to take your place. So, in essence, Ford's employees were about as skilled as typical Mal-Wart workers. But Ford didn't want his people to be paid a serf's pittance. He knew if he paid them well they would work harder and more than likely buy a Ford automobile. The Walton's don't think that way. Most of their employees' wages go right back into the Walton's coffers because it's the only place they can afford to shop. The rest of their living is paid for by me and the other middle-class tax payers because they don't make enough on their jobs and have to collect food stamps or other bennies. And it's not like the money they spend at Mal-Wart does any good for the American economy since all their product is made in east asia. There is no way to reconcile collecting billions of dollars in unearned income on the backs (and at the expense of) hard-working people.

""Corporate greed" is what produced the phones and computers you use to connect to this forum. It produced the refrigerators that store your food and the tvs you watch and the cars you drive"

Corporate greed has kept us from having a proper public transportation infrastructure, has designed cities to be disasters of urban sprawl, has decreased our attention spans, and increased our consumption of unhealthy foods that require refrigeration.

Who said those are the only two choices? Randomizer is the one that made an analogy comparing the wages of turn of the century auto workers with low-wage Walmart employees (speaking of which plenty of Walmart employees make a decent wage and are able to enjoy a standard of living which includes items that those auto workers couldn't dream of acquiring). I'm merely pointing out that is apples and oranges. Low-wage Walmart employees would be the early 20th century equivalent of a guy hawking newspapers on the corner or something. Pretty sure those guys weren't making big bucks. It is a low skill job and thus provides low pay as there are plenty of other people willing and able to do it.

"Who said those are the only two choices?"

Nobody said they should be paid equally, but you concocted a straw man in order to bolster your argument for corporate greed.

"speaking of which plenty of Walmart employees make a decent wage and are able to enjoy a standard of living which includes items that those auto workers couldn't dream of acquiring)"

Clearly you've never worked at Wal Mart.

So mine was the straw man, not the initial analogy comparing wages of two non-equivalent types of workers. Got it. Since you guys have it all figured out maybe you should go found a company and pay your workers lots of money. Let me know how that works out.

I've never worked at Walmart but I worked similar jobs in high school and college. They weren't particularly hard and paid plenty for the amount of work provided. Also my neighbor works for Walmart and has a nice house and nice cars.

Granted he's not a greeter or cashier.

The general point was that there is a difference between corporations that pay their workers are living wage - which Ford used to exemplify - and corporations more interested in cost cutting to maximize profits - which Walmart exemplifies, not that the work is exactly the same.

"Since you guys have it all figured out maybe you should go found a company and pay your workers lots of money. "

Costco pays their workers a living wage and directly competes with Walmart. They're not out of business yet are they?

Oh goodie a neighbor, that somehow nullifies the quantitative data showing Wal Mart workers on food stamps.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2014/04/15/report-walmart-workers-cost-taxpayers-6-2-billion-in-public-assistance/

Funny you should mention that as Costco is where I worked in high school. It would have been very tough to live on the $5-something per hour I made. But it was plenty to cover my gas money and save some money for college.

So you admit that it's very tough to live on those wages but yet you defend poverty wages?

I don't get it. I don't get the slavish defenses of the rich and powerful.

I don't feel like it was a job that merited earning a wage to live on. I was putting groceries into boxes in carts and working a cash register at times. I don't think that should pay particularly well. I think I was compensated fairly. If I had to support a family at the time instead of being in high school living with my parents I would have gotten a better job or worked multiple jobs.