http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2715466/Israeli-official-calls-concentration-camps-Gaza-conquest-entire-Gaza-Strip-annihilation-fighting-forces-supporters.html

They're monsters.

"Human Rights Watch investigated several incidents between July 23 and 25 when, local residents said, Israeli forces opened fire on civilians trying to flee Khuza’a, but no Palestinian fighters were present at the time and no firefights were taking place.

On the morning of July 23, Israeli forces ordered a group of about 100 Palestinians in Khuza’a to leave a home in which they had gathered to take shelter, family members said. The first member to leave the house, Shahid al-Najjar, had his hands up but an Israeli soldier shot him in the jaw, seriously injuring him."

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/04/gaza-israeli-soldiers-shoot-and-kill-fleeing-civilians

putin quoting the daily mail, the irony.

Fine.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/141870/israeli-official-calls-for-concentration-camps-in-gaza

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/op-ed-israeli-deputy-speaker-calls-for-ethnic-cleansing-of-gaza/article/392650

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/24/a-refreshingly-open-call-for-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestinians-from-an-israeli-deputy-speaker/

Happy?

Happy. You will note that the deputy speaker is a crazed extremist, even by israeli standarsd though?

Out of curiousity, do any of you guys personally know people who have been in israel or gaza in the past few weeks? Preferably really well?

Yeah well what it does it say when the man is both deputy speaker and leader of the largest faction within the Likud Central Committee. And he's not the only high ranking official saying crazy stuff. Gilad Sharon said to flatten Gaza like Hiroshima. A chief rabbi has called for Palestinian children to be hung from trees.

They're monsters. The entire country is a lunatic state. Virtually the entire population is seething with racist rage.

This language is actually becoming more of the norm since the last elections, not some out-right fringed rhetoric like in the US. And I do have a friend presently in Israel.

http://forward.com/articles/166746/pro-settlement-extremists-sweep-likud-primary/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3635563,00.html

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/terrifying-tweets-israeli.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/337203

http://www.digitaljournal.com/news/world/israeli-lawmaker-calls-for-genocide-of-palestinians/article/389130

Just a small sampling of the rhetoric coming out of Israel.

Do you think the extremists would be a little more moderate if the USA cut off the Supply of ammunition to the the IDF?

no, that'd likely make them angrier

Oh and 800,000 people (10% of Israel) showed up to mourn a rabbi who called for the extermination of all Palestinians. This was the largest funeral in Israeli history.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/shas-spiritual-leader-abbas-and-palestinians-should-perish-1.310800

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/359844

He also attacked bibi, who is not the most moderate liberal in the world. i agree there is a lot of extremism in israel at the moment, but you guys are obviously not ridiculously well-informed with everything that is going on, despite you thinking you are. talk to someone that's been in gaza and you will hear a lot...
as for your comment saying "they're monsters" putin, if that's aimed at all israelis, that's a disgusting xenophobic statement. but, nice to finally see what others meant when they said you liked to talk out of your ass. "The entire country is a lunatic state. Virtually the entire population is seething with racist rage." ridiculous. maybe prescient, but for now, ridiculous.

" i agree there is a lot of extremism in israel at the moment, but you guys are obviously not ridiculously well-informed with everything that is going on, despite you thinking you are. talk to someone that's been in gaza and you will hear a lot... "

what do you mean exactly? What will I hear from the people in Gaza?

you would obviously hear a lot of bad things spoken about israel. lots of bad true things. but also that the Gazans are terrified of Hamas, yet they can't say anything for reprisal. There's no safety for them anywhere. i know this thread hasn't seen a pro hamas side yet, but from the other thread you guys haven't been too anti-hamas. i probably shouldn't have opened my mouth because this is one of the few topics i dislike talking about, but i think it should be said.

but who cares? Hamas' rhetoric is ineffectual, they can't do anything about it. Israel's rhetoric has only ramped up on its extremism and consistency since the election, and they can follow through on their words. I promise you there are more Gazans before hurt by Israel than by Hamas

Sorry I'll care about being anti-Hamas when they're killing 1300 civilians and bombing schools, hospitals, and evacuation centers.

This genocidal rhetoric is widespread in Israel and couldn't care less if you glibly dismissed it. I have no patience for the sycophants of Israel anymore.

And I'm not impressed with the "I know people there" bullshit. Do you know Gazan children who have been slaughtered and pregnant women who have been targeted? Because otherwise I don't give a shit.

" that's a disgusting xenophobic statement."

Except it's true. If you stopped kissing the ass of your Israeli friends maybe you'd realize it. 95% of Israelis support this massacre. That's a fact.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/30/vast-israeli-support-for-gaza-war-eclipses-and-silences-dissenting-voices/

so a group that only kills a few people aren't worthy of your dislike? interesting. i dind't gilbly dismiss it, and i'm far from a sycophant of israel.

don't be impressed, i don't care what impresses you or not. do i know a leading palestinian journalist (who is more anti israel than you)? yes. do i know other anti-israel jouranlists in gaza? yup.

but now i've remembered why i don't like talking about israel except to those i'm closest too. people turn into real arseholes. and it's not becuase of the horrible things going on, because with israel people respond especially aggressively and emotionally.

1) something can be disgusting and xenophobic. if 95% of blacks favoured something horrific, you still shouldn't say 'blacks are monsters'.
2) i was actually thinking of palestinians who hate israel, but nice assumption. if you stopped to assume shit maybe you'd get somethings right.

there's a difference between supporting killing everyone and concentration camps, and supporting the war in gaza, but i guess your rhetoric blinds you to that.

I don't care who you know. Anecdotes are meaningless.

"so a group that only kills a few people aren't worthy of your dislike?"

When they're trying to fight off invaders and killers? No. They've killed soldiers, not civilians, and no amount of your spin can show otherwise. Israelis have killed children in their sleep at schools. That's what's relevant. Your name dropping isn't.

"there's a difference between supporting killing everyone and concentration camps, and supporting the war in gaza, but i guess your rhetoric blinds you to that."

10% of the country paid their respects to a man who called for the extermination of all Palestinians and said that goys exist to serve Jews. Your pathetic attempts at false equivalence aren't going to work.

") something can be disgusting and xenophobic. if 95% of blacks favoured something horrific, you still shouldn't say 'blacks are monsters'."

95% of them are monsters then.

you said it was meaningful if it was a dead gazan child, but that's not an anecdote? your twists and contradictions are laughable! and my anecdotal evidence doesn't even classify as that because it's a relevant 'expert', but why do i bother trying to talk to someone so set in stone? putin knows he's right, and nothing will ever change that. after this post i'll just leave it.

so not one civilian has ever died from hamas? i'm not saying it's been many, but to say there is 0 is idiocy.

millions of english people still idolise churchill, i wont go so far as to say that they all think you should gas kurds as they're inferior, or would be racist about gandhi, but okay, your logic is great.

you should apologise for your xenophobia. and there are soooo many flaws in everything you're saying, but i should try and keep to not responding like i said. luckily i'm going to sleep so should manage.

In this war? Barely any, and the couple of civilian deaths you can point to are civilians who were providing assistance to soldiers.

But keep going on with your false equivalence. I'm sure it makes you feel morally pure. Too bad Gazans have to die for your moral purity.

" your twists and contradictions are laughable! "

The point was why should I care about whether you know people when there are children being massacred? Your friends are irrelevant.

"millions of english people still idolise churchill, i wont go so far as to say that they all think you should gas kurds as they're inferior, or would be racist about gandhi, but okay, your logic is great."

Yeah are they running around chanting death to Kurds, wearing t-shirts with pregnant women and a target saying "one shot, two kills" and tweeting about how all Kurds must die? No. They idolize Churchill because they've been brainwashed into thinking he was instrumental to their national defense.

Again, you like to compare apples to oranges. I'm not apologizing for anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma'alot_massacre

This is an example of a brave Palestinian terrorist act. Go for the unarmed women and children.

Something that happened 30 years ago is justification for your current war crimes?

Israeli apologists would make that argument.

Perhaps I should wiki you to Sabra and Shatil. You know, that massacre Israelis rewarded Ariel Sharon with the premiership for.