Opinions form through the latter and become well-rounded through the former.

Partysane perhaps you can explain how game theory predicts "innate since of what actions they'd prefer . . ."

Game theory is essentially transactional. Perhaps your are thinking evolutional psychology.

They form as a result of relationships with peers and family. Your parents are the biggest determinant of your politics, your friends are second. Innate sense is developed the same way, so that's a non factor.

2nd probably has a lot of it, although people obviously do form opinions radically different from their birth environments also, so parents aren't the whole story.

I'd guess that there are a wide variety of mechanisms. SOme comes from peer groups or parents. Others find philosophies that comport with their self image (e.g., someone who gets a job in Wall Street suddenly becomes an economic conservative). For some, it might start with a philosophical/ethical approach to the world in general and then the application of that to the political realm flow from that. In some cases, a combination of factors.

For my part, the overwhelming influence was having been raised and taken to Christianity early on (I am no longer Christian) which led to a strong concern for the weak, compassion, and for non-violence in our interactions with others. That gave rise to a very staunch liberal (in the American sense) philosophy. I was also a scientist and have a strong orientation toward evidence based thinking, which also made me turn strongly to environmentalism, left me very skeptical of conservative economics, and sharply against the US Republican party. Finally, my peers from my time in Germany as a high school student also reinforced my social democratic tendencies.

"Finally, my peers from my time in Germany as a high school student also reinforced my National Socialist tendencies."

FTFY

wow, that's one heck of a slur, Second. If we had down votes, you'd deserve shit ton for that. And to think I was actually starting to respect you.

Giving 2nd a -1 would be like trying to put out a forest fire with a thimble of water.

2nd is right:
"They form as a result of relationships with peers and family. Your parents are the biggest determinant of your politics, your friends are second. Innate sense is developed the same way, so that's a non factor."

2nd is wrong:
"Finally, my peers from my time in Germany as a high school student also reinforced my National Socialist tendencies."

FTFY"

Best sense of humor on this site:
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59457. oscarjd74

Yeah, well, when your father was enslaved by the Nazis and your grandfather murdered, that kind of joke really falls kind of flat. See, I'm a liberal because I live in the real world

I'm pretty sure my politics were handed down from my parents - no question. They were split politically, but one was much more emphatic than the other. Pretty sure that's how it is for most people. The idea that we as a whole "decide" our politics is a bit of a farce if you ask me. The moral framework is already well laid out by the time we are in a position to decide anything, and the biggest predictor of your political leaning is the political leaning of your parent.

Rule of thumb, of course.

" See, I'm a liberal because I live in the real world?"

Really? That's the reason krellin became a conservative! Amazing!

The light of pure reason.

"See, I'm a liberal because I live in the real world"
That's the first time I've heard that one

Well, when you have conservatives denying climate change, saying that tax cuts increase revenues and stimulate growth, and claiming that Jesus rode on a dinosaur, it's pretty much the only approach left standing. The typical "it's only a joke" claim when people joke about things that involve real damage to real people, the case is pretty strong by comparison

One of those is not like the others.

I don't really have a good answer for the OP. My own views are more the product of trying to apply reason to human interactions than inherited from relatives and friends; I'm a philosophical anarchist and a practical libertarian, and also an atheist, which sets me fundamentally at odds with the values of aforesaid relatives and friends. This isn't to say that my views are somehow more logical or reasonable than those who ultimately ascribe their views to transmission from others, just that that's the vehicle I tried to use.

Anyone of any affiliation trying to claim sole status as a being "living in the real world" needs, well, a reality check.

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59457. oscarjd74"

Lol. That's funny.

"See, I'm a liberal because I live in the real world"

And there I was thinking you lived in the fake world. Silly me.

Ogion - do I actually think you are a Nazi? No. Do I think that by comparing you to a Nazi will give others the impression that you are a real Nazi? No. Do I not sympathize with your family history? No.

Do I think its funny to connect your student experiences in Germany with their history of National Socialism, creating a humorous juxtaposition between a traditional study abroad education and the indoctrination of millions of people by a terrible dictator? Yes.

Do you have any idea of my own family history, where my own grandfather (on my mother's side) was killed in one of the worst concentration camps? No you don't. You have no idea how my grandfather felt as he was falling out of that guard tower. Since you live in the real world, consider the feelings of others please.

You would think people would understand that where one has been thoughtless the appropriate response would be to apologize and move on but you would be wrong

"Do I think its funny to connect your student experiences in Germany with their history of National Socialism, creating a humorous juxtaposition between a traditional study abroad education and the indoctrination of millions of people by a terrible dictator? Yes.”

This from the man who says I have no sense of humor. Yeah, calling people Nazi completely out of the blue, that's fucking hilarious.

Oscar, "having a sense of humor" around these parts means laughing at the jokes of every preening attention-seeker who thinks they are so very witty and humorous. Reminds me of the "nice guys" who call any woman who declines them a "bitch who hates nice guys".

Other group identifications seem to correlate with political views. Religion, race, region, gender, class, family. Depends on how important these things are to people and which take primacy. Whichever groups take primacy, the peers involved in those groups will likely be most influential. Although that's not to say there may be some, like PE (and myself), who get their views independently of any peer influence.

Go away, 2ndWhiteLine.

In the absence of peer influence, is it purely personal disposition that determines political and economic philosophy? For instance, does a libertarian outlook correspond with a dislike for authority, given that no political or economic philosophy is provably "correct"?

Without a doubt,political ideas and affiliations are brought forth by ones parents,but after that ones peers probably have just as much influence,if not more pending on the socio-economic position they find themselves in. when you are finally learned about what the worlds,different political views actually are ,only then can you make a choice of what is right for you

" is it purely personal disposition that determines political and economic philosophy?"

In some cases, probably. Who knows?

I don't think it's a one-way causation, or that broad trends can really be used to diagnose individuals' political affiliations.