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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
The Favorite Author Tournament: THE FINAL FOUR!
OK, sorry for the delay...and the continued delay--we'll start Midnight tonight. ORWELL! DICKENS! POE! TOLKIEN! Who will advance?

And a bonus question, just for schnicks and giggles--what's the first book you read after high school (or, if it was a while ago, the earliest book you can remember reading after high school?) Just curious to see what we get.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
The first thing I read out of high school was "Human, All Too Human" by Nietzsche.

My 11th and 12th grade English teacher was that one teacher you never forget for me, and he recommended I read three things for college (he usually recommended Shakespeare, but I was already milking that for all it was worth already even back then, lol)--

Nietzsche, Kierkegaard, and the Russians.

He said to read those, and I'd have an advantage on others in college...

And I think he was right.

Nietzsche's the stereotypical college go-to for kids trying to sound smart (case in point :p ), but he's a good example of both what do do and what not to do in writing and argumentation, I think...he's very good at drawing readers in and inverting ideas and being controversial (hence why he's so beloved in college) but a LOT of what he says...apply logic to it, and you have a problem.

Kierkegaard's Nietzsche for people who want to go with the less obvious choice or make a Biblical reference.

And Mr. 12th grade teacher, Mr. Holt, was right--

Aside from the occasional "Crime and Punishment" name-drop, I've never heard any student mention a Russian author, so that's one whole group of authors I've read that peers at my state-level college haven't.

Doesn't make me smart (my posts here attest to that) but it turned out to be good advice...and looking back at that first post-college book now, it's a wave of nostalgia, for good and for bad...

Meaning that if I sound like a pretentious shit NOW, you shoulda seen my crap here back then! (And to those of you who were there for that...hey, at least the Ubermensch references have diminished, right?) :p
Crazy Anglican (208 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Nothing so highbrow here. I read the Elric of Melnibone saga by Michael Moorcock. I read it at my grandparents house, since I went to Florida to visit them soon after graduating high-school.

The Chronicles of Narnia were the first ones after college. I had read so many works that I had to went back to one of my favorites as a "These are books I want to read".
Draugnar (0 D X)
22 Jun 14 UTC
What's the first set up for vote?

Not that it will influence my vote, but the first book I read not for a class (can't say what was out of high school 30 years ago this month) was the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Back when I was in Junior High, it was hitting it's stride in the US (1977, 6th grade) and the previous year, Mr. Denver had us read The Hobbit as a group extra credit project. Every day at lunch, we would pack and go buy our mill to sit in the classroom and take turns reading sections aloud.

Best guess at first book out of HS would be Carlos Castanada's The Teachings of Don Juan.
Chaqa (4027 D (B))
22 Jun 14 UTC
First book I read out of high school? I have no idea. I've always read for pleasure.

Why don't we just vote on our favorite out of the four?
Draugnar (0 D X)
22 Jun 14 UTC
I'm like Chaqa. I can't remember a time since I learned to read beyond "Dick and Jane" that I didn't read for pleasure.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Me too, there, I've been reading for pleasure since my parents caught me sneaking Dr. Seuss's "Fox in Socks" under the sheets and reading it with no light on in the room...lol...

Squinting for 15 seconds to make out a word in the dark?

Bad for the eyes, good for a future love of reading. :)

If everyone wants to, we can vote for the four together...

I just think that since we've done a bracket format up til now, we may as well see that through.
Draugnar (0 D X)
22 Jun 14 UTC
So whose first? Or run both parallel?
Crazy Anglican (208 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
"Fox in Sox", funny I used to read that one out loud to my daughter. Did wonders for my public speaking.
Crazy Anglican (208 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Shall we begin with the voting?
ghug (5031 D (B))
22 Jun 14 UTC
I think Poe/Orwell starts us off.
Crazy Anglican (208 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Poe
Kallen (1169 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Poe 2-0
bo_sox48 (4894 D Mod (G))
22 Jun 14 UTC
Orwell, but that's no knock on Poe.
Octavious (1720 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Orwell
ghug (5031 D (B))
22 Jun 14 UTC
Poe
ghug (5031 D (B))
22 Jun 14 UTC
Obi, I suggest you make these last matches two days each.
CommanderByron (863 D (S))
22 Jun 14 UTC
"Embers of War: The Fall of an Empire and the Making of America's Vietnam" really good book i'm reading right now; historical commentary on Vietnam and the events leading up to Vietnam, going as far back as 1919. Really detailed history and doesn't take an obvious bias.
Chaqa (4027 D (B))
22 Jun 14 UTC
Damn, this is a tough one.

Poe.
Draugnar (0 D X)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Poe

Poe 5
Orwell 2
Theodosius (232 D (S))
22 Jun 14 UTC
Poe over Orwell.
Thucydides (864 D (B))
22 Jun 14 UTC
Orwell. Hurts to do that, the other two are trash Lol
Poe

Huxley is a better Orwell than Orwell, no one is a better Poe than Poe

#shotsfired
Draugnar (0 D X)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Poe 7
Orwell 3
Fishstudios (245 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
Poe.

Orwell: is he swell?
Hell no, we want Poe!

Draugnar (0 D X)
23 Jun 14 UTC
"Villains!" Poe shrieked, "dissemble no more! I admit the deed! --tear up the planks! --here, here! --it is the beating of Orwell's hideous heart!"

Poe 8
Orwell 3
mendax (321 D)
23 Jun 14 UTC
Orwell.
Draugnar (0 D X)
23 Jun 14 UTC
"That is a question I am no more able to answer than yourself. There seems, however, only one plausible way of accounting for them"

Poe 8
Orwell 4
I think the first book I read the summer after I graduated from high school was "A Child Called It." But that might have been the summer before. If it was, then my answer would be Walter Scott's "Lay of the Last Minstrel," or, if that doesn't count because it's just a long poem and not technically a book, then the answer is "The Grapes of Wrath." Terrible book, but I'm glad I read it.

I started "Brave New World" (speaking of Huxley) and "Great Gatsby" not too long after I finished high school, and to this day I've finished neither.
As for the voting for this, it's a hard choice because they're so different. and I have roughly equal likes and dislikes of the two of them.

I love Poe for his poetry and his cleverness, but I've never been much of a fan of horror, whether his or anyone else's. Orwell had a lot of good insights into the world of his day, but I have personal issues with his ideology and politics. Still, even if I have deep disagreements, I have to respect a man who could look at the world with a clear eye and write about it without flinching.

I vote for Orwell.
Fishstudios (245 D)
23 Jun 14 UTC
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Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of dystopic lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
'Twas the thought police - I trembled as they battered down the door,
More afraid than e'er before.

To the Miniluv they took me, painfully they dragged and shook me,
'Till such terror overtook me that I shuddered to the core.
Both my soul and body hurtin', they proclaimed "The future's certain -
Picture such a heavy boot as ever trod upon a floor,
Stamping on a face until the blood is pooling on the floor -
Picture that, forevermore."

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Kallen (1169 D)
27 Jun 14 UTC
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America Hate Thread
Putin, mapleleaf, and anybody else who feels the need to express disdain about the US, please feel free to share your feels in here. Everyone else, don't click open and have one less thing to piss you off =]
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
27 Jun 14 UTC
You can put lip-stick on Ann Poulter but ........
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/26/ann_coulter_no_american_whose_great_grandfather_was_born_here_is_watching_soccer/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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Dunecat (5899 D)
27 Jun 14 UTC
Starting a new game, my friends. It's been a minute.
New game, open to all. Classic map, 500 D buy-in, winner takes all.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=143927
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ILN (100 D)
27 Jun 14 UTC
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'Lazy Greeks' aren't so lazy after all
http://euobserver.com/social/124761#.U6wWJN4c02x.facebook

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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Jun 14 UTC
Worst Non-Sitcom TV Show You've Ever Watched? (4 Episodes Minimum)
Friends were raving about this Netflix show, "Orange is the New Black." Watched. ..It's awful. Wall to wall. The main lead (not the actress herself, she seems to be trying, at least) is like the adult equivalent of Bella Swann meets Every Yuppie Character Ever. Every character's a stereotype. Every guy is a perv, sex-crazed ass, douche, OR just has no life whatsoever. The writing is as bad as I've seen...and yet, this won awards? xD So, worst shows?
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
25 Jun 14 UTC
Is it just me or .....
..... is there a lot of death and destruction going on at the minute.
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ssorenn (0 D X)
26 Jun 14 UTC
JMO = King Mod
We all want to thank JMO for his service to the site.

No crying from the Mods!!!!!!!!!
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glisbao (185 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
Populism and Democracy
I've heard in here that populism is the plague that affects democracy (the topic praising appeasement). I would like people to elaborate on the subject - how does populism undermine the democratic principles, and what can we learn about this in history?
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ArmaGGedon (100 D)
26 Jun 14 UTC
live game
hi, someone to anime live game :P
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
26 Jun 14 UTC
The link between having a large penis and self-confidence
Here is something you guys should all know something about, please share your thoughts if you've got the balls to do so :-)
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peterwiggin (15274 D Mod (S))
25 Jun 14 UTC
Man walks into McDonald's with knife in back
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-mcdonalds-knife-back-20140625-story.html
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rayanking (0 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
join fast victory 4 $$$
it's a great and a live game, it cost only 10 D and in classic map. So let the game start.:)
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jmo1121109 (3817 D Mod)
18 Jun 14 UTC
Many open games
Today's number is 38. I suggest everyone check out some of the open games. Post here with any games you take over for the next 48 hours and you'll get reimbursed for them. PM me for anonymous games. Games with more then 1 banned cheater will probably be cancelled so don't join them.
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Putin33 (111 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
Appeasement: unfairly maligned strategy?
I've been reading quite a bit about British & French foreign policy at the turn of the century, and it seems like appeasement (reduction of tensions through concessions) has gotten an unnecessarily bad reputation.
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Tolstoy (1958 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
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Can atheists believe in free will?
If our consciousness is simply a product of the mushy 3-dimensional circuit board we call a brain, governed entirely by the fixed and unchanging laws of physics and chemistry, is there any kind of free will? Or are all our decisions in life predetermined, like a computer program running through its code, simply responding to various inputs?
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
Taking over CDs
I have recently taken over 2 positions in games where players left. I am wondering why my profile says I haven't taken over CD's at all.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
20 Jun 14 UTC
Again--This is NOT a Christian Country...
http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-obama-must-defend-christian-values-192212780--election.html Christians live here--AND Jews, AND Muslims, AND Buddhists and Hindus and Atheists (fastest growing group!) AND dozens of others (including, hey, all those Native American tribes and religions...many of which were criminalized in part until the 1970s)...WHY? Why must Obama defend the values of a specific sect, when the Constitution clearly is anti-favoritism in terms of religion?
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Birchford (167 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
Parameter 'fromTerrID' set to invalid value '32'
Hello, has anyone encountered this error before, and if so do you have a fix for it? Thanks for your help.
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
24 Jun 14 UTC
Commenting on ongoing gunboat games
I realise of course that you are not allowed to circumvent the no talking rule, like press via email or pm or f2f talking etc. but why is discussing the board in general disallowed? I get that I should not say who I am in the game but if someone is to talk about the board unbiased and without revealing who they are would this be acceptable?
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ssorenn (0 D X)
09 Jun 14 UTC
Two team members per country game?
Would anyone be interested in creating a game, that each of the 7 clasic countries were comprised of two team members consulting together. I understand that only one can actually be listed in the game itself, but maybe create a side pot for the second team members that would pay out equally at end of game
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KingCyrus (516 D)
24 Jun 14 UTC
Boys State
Anyone familiar with this program?
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Buzzle (1531 D)
23 Jun 14 UTC
multi-players
What if you have strong suspicions that someone is multi-playing in a game? Who do you contact to check into it?
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fulhamish (4134 D)
24 Jun 14 UTC
US constitution
I readily admit to starting from a low base on this one, but.....
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SYnapse (0 D X)
24 Jun 14 UTC
Jihadists in Syria
Right now David Cameron is going on about the "threat" from Jihadists leaving the UK to go fight in Iraq and Syria.
Am I missing something? Why are Jihadists fighting in Syria a threat here? To me, it seems no more different than Orwell fighting in Spain.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Jun 14 UTC
Putin on Putin: An Open Invitation to Putin33 on the Russia/Ukraine/Syria Crisis
Welcome BACK, Putin33...my oh my, how the world of international politics has exploded since you last graced us with your presence...are you ready to decry your namesake for the scourge of the world that he is? Most assuredly not, but let this be an open letter and open invitation for you to give YOUR take on the whole of the crisis--and your namesake in particular--as so many have been wondering if you'd capitulate to common sense and call him out for the thug Big Bad Vlad is.
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Jamiet99uk (443 D)
23 Jun 14 UTC
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Can atheists believe in free willy?
If our consciousness is simply a product of the mushy 3-dimensional circuit board we call a brain, governed entirely by the fixed and unchanging laws of physics and chemistry, is it possible to believe that a disaffected but endearing youth could inspire a captive orca whale to jump out of the water and over a 15 foot high sea wall?
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curupira (3491 D)
23 Jun 14 UTC
Classic variant: less than seven players.
I have recent engaged at this online Diplomacy. Long time ago, I did played this game in board. There were choices in the Classic Map for less than seven players. For six players, for example, one have to quit Turkey and Bulgaria. Is there any variants at this webDiplomacy that allow games of this kind? Could it be created?
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Chaqa (4027 D (B))
23 Jun 14 UTC
Pair of press games
gameID=143769
gameID=143770

If anyone's intereste.
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steephie22 (182 D (S))
17 Jun 14 UTC
Need some web design in the holidays?
Planning ahead, I'll probably be happy doing anything more useful than what most people usually do during holidays, so I figured that doing some web design for someone is a good way to help, brush up and improve my skills and perhaps even earn a couple of bucks. Perhaps someone has such a project for me?
See inside.
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