Steephie - read what krellin would have you do, and do the opposite.

Also @krellin: I will be having fun with girls no doubt, so if that's what you think I should do, what's the problem?

mendax. I just had my 20th wedding anniversary. did you?

@Steephie - it's obviosu to anyone on the threads that you take everything way to serously. And I mean every*fucking*thing...

that your heart has not exploded by the self-induced stress and hysteria you create is a miracle.

You realyl need to just chill. First and foremost, all this shit that you are constantly on about isn't that importnat. Second, **neither are you**. sorry to break that to you...

I thought it was draug and the school girls? Heh *had* to, sorry draug.

Krellikins has been married quite some time so I'll give him credit for that.

And steephs, get on that quick.

#countonsandgoose

Hey now, I'm just an Aqualung. Except I've been married 25 years.

@krellin: again: what can I say? I've been chill throughout this process, although it seems you wouldn't believe that.
I only make these threads when I think a second opinion could be useful. Seriousness still has little to do with it.

Like I said though, I will be having my fun, I don't feel stressed. In fact, I'm in the process to make my life less action-packed, because adrenaline has annoying side effects if you produce a lot of it for a long while, which is exactly what I did. I'm still not completely back to 'normal' in that sense, but I'm making progress. She could actually help me with less action-packed passions, as a friend or more, doesn't matter, I think she would happily help me in return because I've helped her quite a bit lately. Also, perhaps more to the point, she said she would help me too.

Sidenote: if someone remembers bubbling someone else but doesn't remember kissing with a third person shortly after that on the same evening, does that tell you something about who left the biggest impression?
No, I'm not being too serious there. Just thought it's a funny/ineresting question.

Interesting*

And I know it and me are not that important, krellin. So? Can't I help a girl in a well thought out matter because I'm a kid?

Moreover, can't I do anything useful with my life yet because I haven't come out of my mother long enough yet?

Oh, and to clarify that I don't care too much: I only think about it when I can't/don't want to do something more useful, because I'm taking a shit for example, or have a break at school or something and no one around to socialize with.

Not exactly what I would call obsessed or something.

Only actively think about it, anyway.

Saying I never think about stuff like this when I'm not taking a shit or having a break would be an overstatement, but a pretty small one.

>six straight posts in thread
>>"I don't care too much"

lol

That's a shit and a boring hour. No, I don't care too much.

Some boring moments in a boring hour, I should say.

The fact that they're a bunch of short posts rather than a long post just confirms that in general, I only go on this site when I've got nothing else to do.

Longer posts don't neccessarily say the opposite though, because if I consider a post unfinished when I have something better to do again, I just don't post it and finish it later.

tl;dr ... at least not the entire thread, but I want to give my meaningless 2 cents anyway ...

There arfe only 2 ways to deal with this:

1 - stay out of it and wait for the inevitable to happen before you think about making your move!
"But this isn't at all about me getting her" Yes it is - you just didn't admit it to yourself yet.
"I swear, it isn't" err ... what did I read in the op? ->a girl isn't sure about 'breaking up' with a guy (...) I really like her, and I don't like him.<-
"But we are just friends ..."
Harry: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally: Why not?
Harry: What I'm saying is — and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form — is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry: No you don't.
Sally: Yes I do.
Harry: No you don't.
Sally: Yes I do.
Harry: You only think you do.
Sally: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry: No, what I'm saying is they all want to have sex with you.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: How do you know?
Harry: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally: So you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry: No, you pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally: What if they don't want to have sex with you?
Harry: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.

2 - Since you do want to get her (if you don't believe me, re-read this post), you will probably not stay out of it. And when this happens, under NO circumstances tell her to leave her boyfriend! Just tell her that in fact she already knows what she wants to do, and that all she needs to do now is admit it to herself and act accordingly. ... and then wait for the inevitable to happen before you think about making your move!
"But this isn't at all about me getting her" Yes it is - you just didn't admit it to yourself yet.
"I swear, it isn't" err ... what did I read in the op? ->a girl isn't sure about 'breaking up' with a guy (...) I really like her, and I don't like him.<-
"But we are just friends ..."
Harry: You realize of course that we could never be friends.
Sally: Why not?
Harry: What I'm saying is — and this is not a come-on in any way, shape or form — is that men and women can't be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.
Sally: That's not true. I have a number of men friends and there is no sex involved.
Harry: No you don't.
Sally: Yes I do.
Harry: No you don't.
Sally: Yes I do.
Harry: You only think you do.
Sally: You say I'm having sex with these men without my knowledge?
Harry: No, what I'm saying is they all want to have sex with you.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: They do not.
Harry: Do too.
Sally: How do you know?
Harry: Because no man can be friends with a woman that he finds attractive. He always wants to have sex with her.
Sally: So you're saying that a man can be friends with a woman he finds unattractive?
Harry: No, you pretty much want to nail 'em too.
Sally: What if they don't want to have sex with you?
Harry: Doesn't matter because the sex thing is already out there so the friendship is ultimately doomed and that is the end of the story.

Just walk up to her, slap your log down on the table, and remind her politely that she has "other options."

(1) President Eden, stop greentexting.
(2) Steephie, you do want her, and that's fine. You're posting on an Internet forum. It's mostly anonymous, and you don't have to worry about what we think of you. There is nothing wrong with caring about another person, although your frequent interjections that you "only think of her when you're taking a shit" are getting tiresome.
(3) krellin is right.
(4) There is no such thing as "objective" relationship advice.

Now go ask her out.

@krellin
"What makes you think that he is in any way capable of making some long-term commitment now or EVER if he does not *practice* having a relationship with a girl?"
So he prepares for commitment by..........not really committing? Mmm? If it's commitment you think he needs to learn, there are other ways to practice committing and then following through -- sticking out a sports season even if it's hard, making a promise to a friend and then following through even if it turns out to be ridiculous, sticking with a diet even if you rather wouldn't.

On the other hand, if it's the knowing-how-to-interact-with-the-opposite-sex that you're worried about, I'm not sure why dating takes points over just being a long-term good friend with a lot of different girls? I'm not saying he SHOULDN'T date, but I don't at all see why you're so bound and determined that he MUST.

"You ridiculous children in this 'modern' culture that think everything you do has to have some deep and meaningful purpose to it are really kind of sad, and I pity you."
Oh, I don't know. Contemplativeness may not be a word, but it's not exactly a modern brainwave. It also isn't a cause for pity as a personality trait.....I mean, unless you want it to be.

@steephie
How old are you again?

Steephie is 15. I think what Krellin is saying in his usual abrasive way is that interacting with the opposite sex romantically is very different from the friend/sister zone. He should date more than one female.over the course of the next three years and stop trying to male each one be "the one" as he doesn't have enough experience to even know what he actually likes in a potential long term romantic relationship. He knows what he thinks he likes but may find the actual experience much different.

Steephie isn't 15. Steephie is legal :)
Other than that, I ought to agree with what you're saying (although I'm not going to stop dating one person for the sake of reaching my quotum or something like that :P), and I thought of it that way all along.

I know how ... obsessed I can come across to some, but I'm telling you all that that's just the way I type on this site and doesn't represent how occupied I am with something at all. If you don't want to believe me, that's fine, but if you don't want to believe me there's no point in having this conversation in the first place because I could be lying about everything. What confuses me is that people choose to believe my age, country and gender even though they have no proof, but completely deny the possibility that I might just know how I feel about a girl and what I think my approach should be.

In other words, I don't need to stop trying making each one be "the one" at all, because I never did that in the first place. I just prefer a different approach from the ones before me who failed miserably, which also allows me to better know wether I like her or just think I like her. Same counts for her liking me. This approach also better fits my personality, meaning it will be much easier for me to show her 'my best side'. Moreover, I think she would just like this approach better.

You can say all you want about trying, but if I know exactly what I shouldn't do and do it anyway because I have to try it, all I learn from it is that I was right. I'm trying something else. No matter how it goes, I can and will learn a shitload from this.

meh be there for her and don't stick your nose or penis where it doesn't belong bro

quite simple really

Methinks Steehie doth protest to much.

On that note, I closed the case a while ago anyway, so perhaps it's time to shut up :)

Finally fucked her?

Still not talking about THAT case.

Perhaps NOW is the time to shut up :)

You've already said too much, so now you have to tell us.

Okay I can't help it.

Tell what?