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Gunfighter06 (224 D)
20 Jul 12 UTC
New Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=95072#gamePanel
Pretty standard game. 10 D buy in, 24 hour phases, classic map, PPSC. We need five more.
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lacorp (100 D)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Game Pause
I'm running a private game with some friends (http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=94862), and one just found out he doesn't have wifi at the hotel he'll be staying in for a day or two. Everyone, except the guy who has no internet, has issues a pause vote. He can't issue one, because he can't access the site. Could a mod please help here?
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JECE (1253 D)
08 Jul 12 UTC
What is this?
http://95.211.128.12/webdiplomacy/
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
18 Jul 12 UTC
So, what caused the 2008-2015 Great Recession?
Anyone?
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sturgeon (100 D)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Is there a mod online?
I have emailed an urgent pause request for gameID=94815
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jacobcfries (783 D)
16 Jul 12 UTC
Mods Available to check email?
I have sent the mods an email. Hopefully someone is online.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Jul 12 UTC
Replacement Europe Needed
In a good position, third world power; allied with two top powers. Unfortunately CD'd. PM me for the ID if you've got any interest.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Who do you think the BGK party will put on the ticket this fall?
Hint: His initials are the party's initials.
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emfries (0 DX)
19 Jul 12 UTC
Mods Please Check Your Email, No Rush Though
The title says it all. Seriously, no rush though.
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Ben e Boy (101 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Bug in World Diplomacy variant: Moscow fleet movement
It seems a fleet in Moscow cannot move along the coast to Ukraine or Armenia, even though the standard rules would allow it to do so and there does not appear to be a special case rule prohibiting it.
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iMurk789 (100 D)
18 Jul 12 UTC
If you draw with CD country in the game...
Does the CD player count as having drawn also? Or do I have to conquer all their SC's so that they don't get a cut?
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Bob Genghiskhan (1238 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Are the mods allowed to force a draw because of utterly egregious mass CDing?
Like, 4 players?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
13 Jul 12 UTC
If You Have A Problem With My Views, My Demeanor, or Me...Draugnar & Co.
Tell me. Write me a PM. Tell me in a post. I make myself a large enough target I can--and have to--take it. I have no problem with that. (However, creating a thread about me and telling me not to bother post or pay heed while your congregation evaluates me as a poster and person and shares how much of a prick you all think I am with others while claiming *I* am the one without class...and worse--if you're going to call me shit, at least "say it to my face," as it were.
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
04 Jul 12 UTC
WDC
I am still trying to figure out if I can do this event. Is anyone else on here going? Other than ava, gram and jim.....
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
18 Jul 12 UTC
Chinese propaganda makes a good point about American propaganda
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2012/07/chinese-propaganda-makes-good-point-about-american-propaganda/54650/
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Maniac (189 D(B))
15 Jul 12 UTC
What words offend you?
Following Rio Ferdinand's recent tweet where he laughed at someone calling Ashley Cole a 'choc-ice' what names offend you or should we all grow thicker skins (Ashley appears to have done this already)
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 Jul 12 UTC
abge's Craft Corner
Draug and I had started to have a fun talk about woodworking and I've just finished another one of my lamps, so I thought this would be a good time to have another thread on crafts and hobbies. Here's the newest lamp:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SVLy_oBKlxU/UAH4qtUHbHI/AAAAAAAAAO4/YZJSHwq8ql8/w519-h519/IMG_20120714_141939.jpg
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Maniac (189 D(B))
17 Jul 12 UTC
Suggestion for updating phases and sayings.
I propose that 'it could cost an arm and a leg' should now be, 'it cold cost me a kidney and three pints of blood' please make you own suggestions for updating sayings. As safe as the bank of England is one that needs looking at...
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ulytau (541 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
What can ruin your chances for presidency?
As little as an unorthodox appearance?
ulytau (541 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
This February, after years of obstructions, the Czech parliament okayed direct election of president (the elections formerly depended entirely on the individual deputees and senators so it was not a formal indirect election like in the US). This cleaves a path for apolitical president without any connections to current establishment. Indeed, the current favorite is Jan Fischer, who is a lifelong statistician who became a public figure only in 2009 when he was put in charge of a caretaker government where he attained the reputation of a honest, hardworking, uncorrupted person (translation: the big parties didn't allow him to do anything so he couldn't make an ass of himself). After this stint ended, he again bailed out from politics thus preserving his reputation.

However, Fischer is not interesting. My friend started to build a platform for gathering votes necessary to even get you on the ballot (50k out of 10M population). The candidate he supports is Vladimir Franz, a composer, painter and professor in arts. A former chairman of Academic Senate on our biggest arts university, six-time winner of the most prestigious Czech award for theatrical composers, a charismatic, educated and consistent 53 years old man. So far so good, solid credentials that by themselves don't hint to disregard him aforehand.

However, he looks like this:
http://www.tattoo-dragoon.cz/galerie/zk_articles_13_5722_b76b1fc2.jpg
http://franz.wz.cz/interviews/intervcz85/02-a.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/314031_360128374057131_1765874121_n.jpg

He is content with his choice to cover himself in ink and metal. It doesn't affect anything else than his appearance. Yet it's quite obvious he will take massive flak for it. It's an even smaller difference from the other current candidates than if he was overweight (not something you can entirely affect), a woman (something you cannot change on your own) or of foreign heritage (something you cannot change at all).

If we cannot look beyond superficial things even among straight middle-aged white men, how much longer will it take to truly view and treat equally those who are not part of the dominant social group?
"All the president is, is a glorified public relations man who spends his time flattering, kissing, and kicking people to get them to do what they are supposed to do anyway."

-Harry S. Truman
ulytau (541 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Especially the Czech one who lacks any significant real powers. However, the position is very glorified in our culture, filling the vacuum left after the fall of the monarchy. Despite being powerless, the presidential tradition and image started with T.G. "Daddy" Masaryk is that of a mixture of a beloved infallible despot, condescending paternal autocrat and overall stately demigod. So it would be nice if this post was open to some actual people :)
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
17 Jul 12 UTC
If all the Czech presidency is about is aesthetics as I believe you said, then why in the world would you elect him? My opinions aside, that doesn't look good. No way you can think it does.
ulytau (541 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
No, I don't think presidency is all about aesthetics. The president is a head of state and a figure that can significantly influence the public discourse for the five/ten years in function and basically gets a free pass for topping any popularity ladder among politicians because of the way Czechs view the presidential post. Which is why I support Franz's candidacy because he fits the qualities I expect from any serious candidate and which is why I am preemptively appalled by the backlash that will arise over his looks. Every time I saw him on a major TV programme, it had to be pointed out that he's tattooed everywhere except for his palms, with the distinct message that it makes him some sort of a circus attraction rather than a rennaissance man. Which sucks. For him and for everyone who differs from the norm and strives for success. Which is nothing new and this is but an example but it me struck me today so I had to post it.
Octavious (2802 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
I have to admit I would question the judgement of a man who chooses to go through a large amount of pain and spend a small fortune merely to satisfy his vanity. Aside from that it will almost certainly cause problems when dealing with foreign heads of state. He would have come across as pretty exceptional to make up for these drawbacks.
Putin33 (111 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Who cares, he's an anti-communist like most of the Czech ruling class. Same old same old.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
17 Jul 12 UTC
I don't know shit about the Czech government. I know that the old regime was practically demolished by the Soviets. That's about it. Based on my lack of knowledge, I see nothing but problems with someone who has a public appearance like that. I see nothing remotely close to such an appearance in any other high office in the world that I can think of off the top of my head. He'd automatically become the laughingstock of any election in the USA simply because of his appearance, that much I know.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Baldness, it has been suggested, stops you winning elections if your opponent isn't also bald. In the UK and US, its has been a long time since Presidents or Prime Ministers who were bald beat those who weren't at the ballot box.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
18 Jul 12 UTC
Also most US presidents were taller than the opponents they beat. While almost all the exceptions were sitting presidents holding onto the post for a second term...
ulytau (541 D)
18 Jul 12 UTC
@Octavious
Unless they are like Warren Buffet or Ingvar Kamprad, all rich people spend small fortunes on their personal vanities so that doesn't say much. Of course, it's his money so while a good material for tabloids, whether he spends it on tattoos or yachts is ultimately not a public concern. The same could be said about the pain and with the ever greater penetration of plastic surgery among the population, I would say that the short-term pain from getting tattoos done is quite comparable to the long-term pain you suffer from after the operation. This comparison is actually interesting: would you preffer a candidate who underwent a plastic surgery to become more likeable among others to a candidate who got tattoos for his own pleasure? Isn't the first one desperate while the second is confident? I don't claim he is the candidate for everyone but to know this, people have to look past his unorthodox appearance (for the record, I would never willingly get any tattoo or piercing) and listen to what he has to say and what he thinks. Otherwise it's an example of us wasting the intellectual potential because of a single superficiality. Penalize him for not looking representative enough but don't disregard him just because of that, just like you said.

@Putin
You are a little out of touch with the current reality, even the communist themselves are communists only by name and that's a party that didn't even bother to repaint its image after 1989 unlike other communist parties in neighbouring countries. It's a party that got Klaus elected in 2003. It's a party so devoid of notable characters that they nominated a right-wing nationalist lunatic eurodeputee in 2008 as their presidential candidate even though she never was in the party and got into Brussels only thanks to a TV mogul that put her behind him on the ballot in his pet political project because she was a news anchor on his TV. They still don't have their own candidate for the upcoming elections and it seems they will back-up a social democratic renegade that ran against Klaus already back in 2003 and who was previously a prime minister of a government with the biggest communist influence after 1989 and THEY STILL BACKED KLAUS OVER HIM. The Czech communist party is about as revolutionary as British hereditary peers. Once a year on May 1st they organize a parade and for the rest of the year, they sit in parliament enjoying their inflated salaries while doing nothing because they are always in opposition and other opposition parties actually have to do something to lure people on the vision of credible opposition. Communists just sit there and enjoy automatic anti-establishment street cred because they are communists. And when their radical young members try to spark the revolutionary ideas, they are eager to help with shutting them down because if the party got banned for it, where would they get money for paying bills and mortgages? Being a communist deputy is a great ruling class job. And they're hiring - if you're under 30, you have a 1 in 100 to get into the Chamber of Deputies as a communist. If you're over 30, the chance plummets to 1 in 3000.

@bo_sox
Depending on what you mean by "old regime", it was demolished in 1918 by democrats, 1938 by Nazis and Allies, 1948 by communists and in 1989 by democrats again although from 1918 on, the presidential ideal is pretty much same despite the regime changes. But that's not really important for this issue so don't be discouraged by not knowing shit about it. I know he will be a laughingstock even in the Czech Republic so any cultural differences can be thrown away anyway. But if looking funny is all it takes to become a mere circus attraction, we failed to listen as children. Children are taught not to laugh at Stephen Hawking or Quasimodo because of what they look like. They are taught not to point fingers at strangers in various clothes or with exotic hairstyles. So why this regression, why laughing at Franz because of his appearance? Wouldn't it be ultimately more fulfilling to laugh at him for being batshit crazy like Rick Perry? Not that he is but not giving him chance seems rather cheap and uncivilized, especially since he has a track record of a person who achieved something and has valuable things to say. In my third link, president Klaus and various academic officials are not laughing at him so it couldn't be hard, right?

@TGM
Franz is an extreme example so what you brought up has more lasting importance for multiple groups of people. You are not a serious contender in the West if you're bald or fat. Heck, if you had a single major visible tattoo you wouldn't be a serious contender. You could probably make an exception for baldness if it was induced by chemotheraphy or such in which case it would be a heartbreaking story of determination that could actually be an asset. Which is good and I am happy society got at least this far but there is something seriously wrong if being bald because of genetic predisposition pretty much ruins your chances while being bald by chemotherapy wins you affection and boosts your chances.

@ora
Good, add height to the list. You cannot be bald, short, fat, tattooed, pierced... and of course if you're old, you must not look so. That's a lot of people going down the drain right at the start. And don't even dare to be a tattooed woman! For such an important morale figure, you sure have to go through a lot of preliminary pageants. Are we really so brainwashed by the constant visual barrage that we could no longer elect someone visually standard like Lincoln, not to mention someone actually extraordinary like Franz?
Putin33 (111 D)
18 Jul 12 UTC
Really, for being such a ruling class party, it's a wonder that your wonderful "liberal" governments try every nefarious means they can think of to ban or dissolve it and have done so every since the dark days of that neoliberal hero, Vaclav Havel. And despite this pressure, it continues to get a solid vote share and have an impressive youth wing, which itself is the target of pressure. But yes, the KSCM is a Eurocommunist-ish party, despite their keeping of the old iconography, and despite their youth wing repudiating private property. Their model is the Communists of Cyprus.

But anyway that was a big rant to distract from the fact that your boy is an anti-communist and not even an interesting one. At least Bobosikova had some good views on foreign policy, which was pretty important to the KSCM when the Czechs were debating being NATO's missile shield puppets. They supported her to put pressure on the social democrats and greens to abandon their support of the missile shield. It's called strategy.


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2ndWhiteLine (2611 D(B))
18 Jul 12 UTC
Gunboat-345
Are you fucking kidding me?!
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RickStar3443 (176 D)
18 Jul 12 UTC
Gunboat 344
NEEDS TO DRAW FRANCE!!!!
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cteno4 (100 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
When your position looks hopeless, what do you do?
Fight it tooth and nail until the end?
Become somebody's puppet?
Attack everybody and giggle like a schoolgirl? ("I did it for the lulz!!!!")
CD out?
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emfries (0 DX)
15 Jul 12 UTC
Reducing Resigns
Would it be possible to create a system that allows for the creator of a new game to but a max resign percentage required to join the game? I have no idea how hard it would be to code, but I'm just thinking allowed. It could be an advanced option, with the default having no limit. Another idea could be to add in a penalty for resigns (in advanced options). Any thoughts?
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LanGaidin (1509 D)
15 Jul 12 UTC
Public Press Game - call for players
I rarely play public press, but I am hoping to bring in some players that I haven't yet had the pleasure (that I can remember) of lining up against. The only criteria, and sole reason for the public press, is that you must lob insults or banter w/ allies and foes alike. Thus, I'd like to personally invite Nigee and Zultar along w/ 4 other random persons that would be interested.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
13 Jul 12 UTC
*** Webdip Inter-Galactic Championship 2012***
....call for players.
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andreakn (100 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Dictionary for newcomers
Hello everyone! just discovered webdiplomacy.net and joined my first game this week. (this is my first forum post as well)
Is there a dictionary for the terms/abbreviations you guys are slinging in the forum? I've come across a couple I don't understand: "CD", "WTA", "gunboat".
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yebellz (729 D(G))
17 Jul 12 UTC
Country Color Palettes
Just wanted to discuss the aesthetics/practicality of the country color palette, not necessarily of only this website, but of the game and its various print editions in general.
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timdcoltsfan (1099 D)
17 Jul 12 UTC
Team game on Vdip. Grab a buddy and join.
There is a two player team game starting soon. Only a few spots left. Grab a friend and come join and see if you can win with a teammate. This is not meta gaming at all. It is being allowed to have two friends join and play as a team. Stated so in the rules and on the forum on Vdip. So if you like playing with a teammate and would like to play a game for sure to be allies and no issues of complaints. Join: http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8986
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yebellz (729 D(G))
17 Jul 12 UTC
WTA vs PPSC
A frequent debate on this site. I'm of the WTA camp as I disdain the "strong second" PPSC mentality.
It seems that the inventor of the game, Allan Calhamer shared this view, arguing that the WTA objective provided for much more interesting end game drama.
http://www.diplom.org/~diparch/resources/calhamer/objectives.htm
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Zmaj (215 D(B))
16 Jul 12 UTC
EoG: 1234567
An exciting game.
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