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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
18 Oct 11 UTC
Mod Policies
So, there has recently been some confusion/criticism about how mods handle cases. Without talking about any specific cases, I'd like to review how we handle different cases and the reasons for it. Hopefully, this can turn into a productive discussion, since this site is community-driven.
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Mack Eye (119 D)
19 Oct 11 UTC
New 10-day phase game
Do you choose evil ways instead of love?...

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=70368
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Cockney (0 DX)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Gunboat and the
Why the hell can't people press the ready button in gunboat games?????

its not like they are waiting for an answer to a message or anything
its ridiculous. If they want to wait because they cant play in the next phase or something, then they shouldn't have agreed to play in the game in the first place with that phase length
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
16 Oct 11 UTC
Porn from feminist perspective
Here discuss feminism with emphasis on misogyny and the morality of pornography. Give me your views and moral justifications. Thanks.
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fortknox (2059 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Major discussion topic...
"who would get Windsor castle if Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip split up?"
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Draugnar (0 DX)
17 Oct 11 UTC
So Mr. V was actually Diplomat33.
More inside.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
17 Oct 11 UTC
copyright violations?
So hasbro owns the rights to this game?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
16 Oct 11 UTC
Animal Rights
Here discuss animal rights. Specifically with reference to animal testing and vegetarianism. Give me your views, and your moral justifications. Thanks.
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SacredDigits (102 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
I guess I successfully predicted the future in the October ghost ratings topic
As of Friday, I was in four games. In the last 24 hours (well, 30 technically, but it's close) I received the following message three times: "You were defeated, and lost your bet; better luck next time!" Bye bye, highest GR spot for me to date. I've never been so soundly defeated so often in so short a time.
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jpgredsox (104 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
The United States Shouldn't Have Entered WW2
The United States intervention in World War Two cost 418,000 American lives. And, really, what did the United States gain from it? Hitler was gone and Nazi Germany was destroyed, but much of Eastern Europe running from East Germany to Russia was under the (de jure or de facto) rule of Stalin and the Soviet Union. U.S. intervention fostered the spread of communism by destroying its primary opponent, fascism, thus setting up the Cold War for the next fifty years.
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jpgredsox (104 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
The Octopus
I have always been intrigued by this opening (sev-->black sea,
warsaw-->galicia, moscow-->st pete's, st pete's-->gulf of bothnia) but have never really had the balls to try it out. Does anyone prefer this opening/has anyone won by this opening? Any general thoughts on its merits/detriments are welcomed.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
18 Oct 11 UTC
I've won with the opening before, although lately, it's been causing me more trouble than it's worth. It's a pretty solid opening under the right circumstances. I often feel that Russia's place is in the east initially. It's often hard to garner the idea that you need Sweden when you've got 2 units in the north. Germany and England are often hostile about it. Also, if things go sour in the south, having 2 units north means that you're burning on both ends.

It seems to me that it's best to inform several nations of the 2 north idea before hand and ensure that they're ok with it. As long as a western nation is willing to work with you, then the move is fine, but if no one likes it, then it's a death trap.

Generally, though, I prefer three southern units and a northern build when needed,
gman314 (100 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
I saw an article which basically said that for Russia the only two valid openings are this one and the same opening with Moscow moving to Ukraine instead. Does anyone agree with this or is there another good opening I'm missing. (Apart from Warsaw hold which depends on Austria.)
My general theory concerning Russia is you need to be prepared to give up the north (St. Pete) or the south (Sev) if it becomes necessary. If you do it the right way, the rest of the country is easily defensible as a 3-SC power and you can make gains from there.
jpgredsox (104 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
@tru ninja
I've always held that my preconditions for using this strategy are ensured access to either galicia and/or black sea...but I've never felt certain enough that this access would occur to actually use the opening. And I agree with the communication aspect, I've spoken heavily with germany about it anytime I'm considering the opening.

@gman314
The movement of the warsaw army to ukraine (with all other moves the same) is known as the squid. I've considered this as well, but the potential austrian army in galicia has always worried me too much. I would disagree with the sentiment that these are the only two good openings, as I find st petes to gob, sev to black sea, moscow to ukraine, and warsaw to galicia is a very good opening, but I find any move to rumania in spring 01 an act of folly.
jpgredsox (104 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
@thatwasawkward
Occasionally I do find it not very harmful if it is necessary to give up st petersburg to a (relatively harmless) fleet from england.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
18 Oct 11 UTC
I think it's ludacrous to give St Pete to England. That's like me asking him to give Edinburgh to me so that he doesn't build fleets close to my home. If I'm going to negotiate with England as Russia, I have no problem giving him German centers while I take Scandinavian ones, or even giving him Scandinavian centers in exchange for control of German centers that I occupy with armies, but giving up a home center isn't something I'd consider.
Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
18 Oct 11 UTC
i like to use it but like an ally in ger or eng first.
I think that's a rather poor way to look at things; you shouldn't have strategic absolutes. It's not unheard of, for instance, for France to cede brest to England if E/G forms at the start, in return for England betraying Germany.

The real threat to England until very late in the game is the spaces that produce fleets - Brest, Kiel, Berlin, and St. pete., and maybe Mar to a lesser extent. With Brest taken, France is no longer a serious threat, and Germany is much more likely to be the one to invade England one day, not France.

The only alternative in that situation is to turtle and pray that Russia becomes strong enough to give you relief and that Italy doesn't decide to dogpile and try to take centers while you're weak. If you're reasonably confident of those two things happening, then by all means fight tooth and nail until you get relief.

But if, say, Turkey has gutted Russia and he's struggling just to defend himself, or if Italy has decided to move westward, staying enemies with both Germany and England is a suicide wish. Ceding brest can cause England to be your ally, the most proximate threat then being Germany, and also Germany seeing all the gains from the attack go to England and not himself may also decide to abandon the alliance.

Similarly, if I were Russia under attack from A/T, defending st pete would be a low priority for me. If losing it to an English fleet was necessary to ensure ARMIES won't pour in from the west or north, I would do it.
Ges (292 D)
19 Oct 11 UTC
@redsox (sorry about the end of your season, by the way, but I'm an O's fan and our season ended in April or thereabouts):

I think Russia has more control over its own destiny with a southern opening. When I open north it feels like I'm using one SC worth of military power to defend every SC I have up there. The unit bleed to Santa Claus land emboldens those pesky southern neighbors. I have tried several times to carry out a top-of-the-world sweep, but England always gets cold feet way too early.


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vontresc (128 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Maps
Hi I used to use the email dip judges, and am rather new to the Webdip site. I really like the setup, but I'm not a huge fan of how the maps are drawn. is it possible to generate a "results" map without the arrows for a more uncluttered look?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Hoe is het in Nederland?
Hoe is het in Nederland dan? Ik ben alweer een poosje weg daar. Hoe is het weer bij jullie? Zijn jullie ook dat gezeur van die Wilders zat of is ie nog erg populair bij sommigen? Ben benieuwd.
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Cachimbo (1181 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Regarding Diplomat33's case; an open letter.
I'm having a hard time with the idea that he might be allowed to continue playing on this site.
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thinker269 (100 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Question from new guy
Public messaging only: does that mean what I think-that we can only communicate on "Global"?

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HavocInside (100 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
New fast pased game!
I am wanting to sit down and play a good game. I was wanting it to be 10-20 min for each turn. Bet only 5. It would be zero but it seems that is not allowed. I require 6 additional players. If you would like to play reply to this thread and spread the word. Once I have the needed players I will post the link to the game. Enjoy, looking forward to a game and have a good day.
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
18 Oct 11 UTC
The beat on D33 thread.
Have fun with it. It doesn't bother me at all. Just don't sink to profanities.
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Ayreon (3398 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Irregular etiquette... cheating
In game Supper's ready France and Austria has a strange comportament:
Austria has 18 SC plus other 2 SC to conquer to France and win instead he does not finish the game leaving the SCs to France while France announces that he wants more England's SCs before Austria win...
It's not regular do I ask the intervent of moderators...
Thanks
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kestasjk (64 DMod(P))
17 Oct 11 UTC
Male / female pay equality
I just read an article on the BBC, basically someone got sacked for saying women in New Zealand get paid 12% less, but it's because they need more leave (in particular he hinted at women's menstrual cycle as causing regular sick leave in some women)..
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
18 Oct 11 UTC
A word on trolls
If you see someone post something so ignorant, so enraging, so *wrong* that you just *have* to respond - the odds are they don't believe it and are just trying to get a reaction. Mute is your friend
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Balaran (0 DX)
17 Oct 11 UTC
cheating!
when someone is playing 2 countries in a game or chatting to another player to co-ordinate moves in GUNBOAT, Is there anything that can be done to ban them. Ive checked there records and they have played together alot and the cheating is clear.
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Corruption in Texas
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/10/why_even_bother_consulting_the.php
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
16 Oct 11 UTC
Teen Diplomacy Tournament member list.
the list is below.
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jpgredsox (104 D)
12 Oct 11 UTC
Young-Earth Creationism
I learned today that, according to polls, a solid 40-50% of Americans believe in Young-Earth creationism, the view that God directly made the Earth and humans (no evolution!) about 6,000-10,000 years ago. Yay for American intelligence!
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Invictus (240 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
Another Disgraceful Act by Chavez
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/17/us-venezuela-opposition-idUSTRE79G65T20111017

What else can you expect?
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
14 Oct 11 UTC
Is the New World Order unraveling?
I am interested in the opinion of the community:
http://lewrockwell.com/buchanan/buchanan189.html
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
18 Oct 11 UTC
Russia is my favorite nation to play.
And likely many of yours as well. Let those who smile at a successful triumph by the Tsar gather and show their support of the russian nation gather here in this forum.
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
17 Oct 11 UTC
Meat eating vs vegetarianism
Im doing a research project on eating meat, so i thought id poll the forum and see what it thinks.
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
17 Oct 11 UTC
My multi
Well, ill apologize to the community. I wasn't trying to gain points, just fool around in the forums. I hope the community will realize that. I will take what the mods decide to do with me. And i hope i am not shunned (thank goodness you are all not draugnar, j/k drag) Think about my situation here.
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Emperor Napoleon (100 D)
17 Oct 11 UTC
Worried about cheating...
I am very concerned that two players in a game I just joined are cheating, however I don't know how to take care of them. I see from another thread here that we can't post cheating accusations on the forum, so... what do I do?
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