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Conservative Man (100 D)
10 Jul 11 UTC
Live games always start at their scheduled start time, right?
Even if it fills up like hours before the start time?
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☺ (1304 D)
09 Jul 11 UTC
☻☻☺☺ EOG
Please wait until the game is actually over to post them.

gameID=63406
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gman314 (100 D)
09 Jul 11 UTC
Sitter needed
I will be away July 15-30 and need a sitter. I will have three games active but they are in the Masters and League C1 so you cannot be in either of those. PM me if you are interested.
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Catch23 (0 DX)
06 Jul 11 UTC
Mute button
Can someone please inform me on how this works, and what it dose?
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Lin Biao Jr. (359 D)
09 Jul 11 UTC
Divide et vinces. Comments on Sudan's outcome
I've been following lately everything that has being going on there and I was wondering if history is going to repeat itself as, quoting one of my friends 'divorce often leads to even greater poverty and woe'. Indeed, being Africa, some argue that harping on “blood of martyrs” they'd better prepare for tribal violence and government corruption.
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The Czech (40297 D(S))
09 Jul 11 UTC
Mod help please
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=63361&nocache=864
I've sent 2 emails. I know you are busy, but this is a live game. Could you check it out please.
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Babak (26982 D(B))
07 Jul 11 UTC
Wow - cool Dip tournament in Indianapolis... Aug 4-7
"Gen Con Indy is the original, longest running, best attended, gaming convention in the world. For nearly 40 years, Gen Con Indy has been setting the trend and breaking records. Last year, more than 26,000 unique attendees experienced Gen Con Indy."
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mr_brown (302 D(B))
05 Jul 11 UTC
Stabbing not nice?
So I got this question: I may be fairly new to this game, but I read up a lot and have a few games under my belt. But as far as I understand, stabbing is an integral part of this game, right? But still I get players with lots (LOTS) of games finished really bitching (and I mean bad 4-letter words here) at me for stabbing them. Is it them or me? What are your thoughts?
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
09 Jul 11 UTC
Guess what guys? I WON!!!
This is quite amazing to see, it's the hardest game I've ever completed: thread=444658
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lkruijsw (100 D)
09 Jul 11 UTC
Diplomacy PodCast
http://diplomacycast.com/page.cfm/News
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Please-not-turkey (540 D)
09 Jul 11 UTC
WTF is gunboat...
Message inside.
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Proposition Joe (318 D)
09 Jul 11 UTC
The Diplomacy Map
Corisca is a French territory, but is colored according to whoever holds an Italian territory (Tuscany I think?) when it should be the color of whichever power controls holds Marseille. Whereas Sardinia is Italian and never changes color (and neither does Crete). Meanwhile Iceland changes color based on whoever owns Clyde instead of the more logical Denmark or Norway. These questions going unanswered hinders my ability to play Diplomacy and function normally in day to day life.
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P-man (494 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Account Sitting
I'm going out of town for a week, without internet access, but am still in three games ( two gunboat, one press), could I get someone to sit my account?

Thanks in advance,
P-man
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
05 Jul 11 UTC
The Batchman Cometh EOG gameID=61654
EOG and Summary gameID=61654
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
06 Jul 11 UTC
"Learning the lessons of the past"
Its what I get every time I talked about history with my students, I nodded in support but I really wanted to tear my hair out. Are there truly lessons from the past or are those "lessons" merely the result of hindsight?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Anyone here ever bought from Thought Hammer (thoughthammer.com)?
I just discovered their gaming sight. Their prices look decent and was just wondering if anyone had any experience with them?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
05 Jul 11 UTC
Leaving webdiplomacy
See inside...
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hotetatu (188 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
fast game needs players
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=63298

start in a few minutes!
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Babak (26982 D(B))
27 Jun 11 UTC
Face-to-Face game in DC - Sunday July 10th
Those of you in or near DC - there will be an FtF game on July 10th. meetup link: http://www.meetup.com/Potomac-Tea-and-Knife-Society/

I will be there as well. would love to see some webdip faces. if anyone can make it, post here.
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☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
All that Jazz EOG
gameID=63278

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☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
S01: Nothing to say here. Standard opening

A01: Cover Munich because of France.

Builds: Hm. Now things get interesting. Hope there isn’t a jugg. Was surprised to see France’s support move to Belgium. Wish I had taken it (sort of) but I’m glad to see he wants to be friends. Hope he builds F Bre and moves after England. I’ll build a fleet in Ber and try to take Swe. Would like Bel, but I want France to take it if it means our friendship. Looks like Italy was going for the Key Lepanto and Austria didn’t get it. To be fair, I don’t think I would have picked up on it. But I’ll know to look for that in the future.

S02: Glad to see F Bre from France and F Edi from England. Expect France will move after England while I take Swe. Then I’ll work with France against England. Moving to Ska in case England tries for it. That should guarantee me Swe, since Russia and England are at war. Unhappy to see A War, but hopefully that is going south. I like Turkey’s build in Ank. I think that means very good things for me. I’ll keep Russia out of Swe, which should effectively cripple him.

A02: Well France and I just can’t figure out Belgium. This has got to be the first time F/G have fought over who accepts the others support into Bel… I’ll support him in again, since I’ve got Swe. Also, Austria doesn’t seem to understand the idea of a key lepanto. It’s a shame that Turkey and Russia are making up too…

Builds: Think I’ll build F Kie, convoy Den to Liv, and move Kie > Den. Russia probably won’t see that coming. I hope. Wait. That plan doesn’t work, since I can’t take GoB in the same turn. Although it would be fun if I could. Will likely build the same though. Building a third fleet though means I have almost no choice but to eventually stab France. I hope I can do that successfully, and I hope he doesn’t do it preemptively. Hopefully a powerful Italy can help me there.

S03: Glad to see France’s builds. Don’t think I’ll take a center this year, but I’ll definitely reposition to take St. Pete the next year. Kie > Den, Den > Swe, Swe > GoB with support. Wish there were a better way to get into Finland, Liv and GoB. Hopefully Russia disbands that fleet when I retreat it. Strange Rom build from Italy. Don’t know what he’s going to do with that. I guess move to Ven and Tyr. I would have expected a fleet to fight Turkey.

A03: And Austria quits. Sigh. At least he wasn’t too big. Will move to Liv and Finland and North. I’m risking leaving Swe open, but I really want to take North, and maybe the move to Fin will make England think I want to be friends.

Builds: Wow. Two French builds. Bad news for me. Especially with Italy occupied with RT. What a shame. Why the draw votes guys? Just giving up? Surprised you joined them, France… Glad Russia disbanded his fleet instead of retreating.

S04: Will take Nor and St. P this year. Should put me in a good position to fight off France. Or maybe build armies and go somewhere else if he doesn’t look hostile. But I think he will.

A04: Wow. I really expected a move to Bur from Par. Thanks, France. Russia bounced me, but it doesn’t matter – I can force it with Norway this year. It’ll just take slightly longer. Actually, I don’t even want to do that, do I. Yes, I do. France’s stab is inevietable here. Move to NAO. Have to rebuild to fight him. He doesn’t need that many units to take London… But having two armies off the mainland should help some. Hope he rearranges his forces this year so I don’t have to stab him. Otherwise NAO can be nothing but hostile. Thanks for making us wait for forever, by the way England. You could have just had some class and issued orders, you know. I think I have to try for Burgundy this phase, unfortunately. If France moves back to MAO, I’ll fall out, but that NAO move scares me, there’s just no reason for it.

Builds: Strange, strange moves from France. I don’t get the fleet in NAO. But if he wanted to fight me, he would have moved to Norwegian and North. I just don’t get it… Going to go out on a limb and trust him. Mostly because I’m somewhat hosed if he and Russia both play for me anyway. Really would like an explanation from France for his actions in an EOG here. I’m very confused.

S05: Well, I really hope you flood the Med, France. I’m going after Russia. Hope Russia moves Mos > Sev. That would give me a very good shot at Warsaw in the next year. Also hope Italy’s 2 fleets scare France a bit.
A05: Well, that’s what I expected, to be honest. And I’m an idiot. A SC St P fleet can’t support hold Norway, can it. Damn, that was stupid. And he’ll convoy there, what’s worse. Hopefully, Italy will help me by tapping Gal and I can take Warsaw. Hopefully. At least I hold the stalemate line in the north. May have to play for that at this point. Really hoping I can hold France off for an IFG 3 way.

Builds: Hope Austria disbands Mos. That would help a lot. I made a huge mistake by not moving to North Sea with Norway. I knew I should have, but was confused by France’s play and didn’t want to ruin a potential alliance.

S06: Well, the builds aren’t exactly helpful. Moves are just to fight France here ad infinitum. This is my fault, can’t really complain. Always play it safe in gunboat. Oh well.

Buils: *wow* That did not work out well. All I can do now is hope Italy helps me hold the stalemate because he’s scared of France. Only good thing about this is France can’t get into Baltic immediately because he’s got armies there.
S07: Will be very surprised if Italy doesn’t start helping me. With all my centers but Warsaw, France will have 17. War, Mos, or Tun and he’s won. All I can hope is that I’m instrumental in stopping that. Still kicking myself for being so stupid. I’ve won or drawn my last 5 gunboats. :-(

A07: Well that was an unfortunate confusion between Italy and I. I’ll hold Munich this turn, but barely. Russia will be needed for this draw too, I think. We need his units in Liv and Mos. I hope he’s not stupid enough to throw this to France, which I think he will be, given his support move last turn. But he’s got his draw vote up now, maybe he gets it.

Builds: No. He doesn’t get it. Damnit, Russia, if France solos because you couldn’t get over my attacking you, you will have been the biggest idiot in the history of diplomacy. Good news is France has Tunis. Which means I either draw or France solos.

S08: Supporting Russia to Liv. What an idiot. I hope he gets this. And I hope Italy has the presence of mind to support hold Sev. Turkey’s trying to throw to France, but can you really blame him? For the record, you can blame Russia, who would easily draw without such stupid play. But Turkey doesn’t even have his draw vote up. *sigh*

A08: Nice moves, Italy. We still need more armies (Thanks, Turkey) but a draw looks pretty likely at this point. Munich is my best hope at survival. I’m fine if Italy takes Warsaw or France takes Berlin, as long as Munich survives. And you still need one more fleet in the south to support hold both Pie and Tunis. I feel fairly confident about the draw at this point. It may not include Russia (that will depend on France) but I’m pretty positive I’ll be in it.

Builds: Well no disbands for me at least. We need one more unit on Munich. If I can somehow manage to keep Warsaw, that can be one of mine. But I don’t think that’s likely here…

S09: Italy’s aggressiveness with Turkey here is just making it more likely for France to solo. He should have taken Warsaw that turn then moved to Sil to support Munich. And gotten Rum up to Gal. Turkey would see he’d be part of the draw (or maybe he’d just keep being a moron) and hopefully not ruin it. Correct builds from Italy, at least. I hope he stops obsessing with Italy and moves to the line. I’m not sure we can save this even if he does. He can worry about eliminating Turkey later. 500 Error… Looks like everyone got their orders in though despite it.

Builds: Disbanding Munich. It’s my only shot a draw now.

S10: Moving to Warsaw in hopes of French support. Maybe it will manage to throw to France. Who knows.

A10: Looks like France and Italy got their two way. Poor play on my part. And on Russia’s, a bit. OK, come on. This is absurd. Finalize your orders guys. I’m just waiting on you to eliminate Russia for the EOG… I should have seen the writing on the wall in 08 and thrown this to France. Well, OK. I did see it. I was just in denial. :-/

Come on Italy. We all know what’s happening here. You can finalize. It’s ok. The world won’t end. OK France. Now press the draw button. You can do it. There we go...
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Sigh. My worst play in a long time. Quite embarrassed.
chenf (689 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Aw... I was really hoping for that key lepanto. If only you were austria :)
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
I wouldn't have seen it. But I should have. :-P
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
08 Jul 11 UTC
I'll comment more in depth in a bit. Though I don't think your criticisms of my play are fully justified.
chenf (689 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
I think I played it really risky with that, but I counted centers and knew which line I wanted to make.
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
You should have seen you needed to move to Liv long before you did. That's my only real criticism. We both would have been in the draw at that point.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
08 Jul 11 UTC
I think that is a fair point. But I don't think I had a whole lot of choices. I had Turkey breathing down my neck trying to throw it to France. Admittedly I was doing that for a while in hopes of getting to a point where I would be useful in a draw, but if I had moved to Livonia (and your aid) earlier, Turkey would have walked into my centers and tried to take my spot in a potential draw.
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
That is, perhaps, true. You could have moved Mos without moving Sev though. You weren't support holding Sev anyway.
chenf (689 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Well I to be fair, I gave Austria 2 chances at it, both in Autumn 01 and Spring 02
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
08 Jul 11 UTC
Yeah. I just looked back at the maps. You are right, I should have moved it a bit sooner.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
08 Jul 11 UTC
It was definitely autumn of 04-spring of 05 that the tide turned against you, smiley.
France had too many fleets and armies in England that it would have taken him a whole two years to shift things south. It might have been better to keep that Finland army in StP, and bring the fleet from StP to Denmark.
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Yeah, I know zultar. It was just stupid play on my part. I was confused by his moves, which didn't make sense to me at all, even though I don't think he was doing it intentionally. I shouldn't have tried to forgive him after the move to NAO. And I should have moved to North that turn - that would have let me hold him off for a long time, I think.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
08 Jul 11 UTC
Well, at least you weren't France again. :)
That's enough to make me happy.
And you better not be freaking France in our game, you either win or draw French bastard.
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Haha. I'm fine with that. :-P
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Speaking of which, why is no one joining? We're missing three people. Did they just not get my PM?
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
08 Jul 11 UTC
No idea. You created it and I joined right away. I love to contribute points to my elders' deep pockets.
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Hahaa
jmeyersd (4240 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Oh, not intentional, hey? :)
I saw a couple questions on my play. Will answer when get back to computer. On phone now.
☺ (1304 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
Well I get why you stabbed me - it was inevitable. But I don't get why you started it one year. stopped, then did it fully the next year.
jmeyersd (4240 D)
08 Jul 11 UTC
ok, first off, sorry Russia, but i couldn't bring myself to settle for less than a two-way after coming so close to soloing. if it's any consolation, i felt really bad as i was doing it.

second off, i can't help but feel i should've won that. i was past the stalemate line twice and thought i had it made. that damned retreat bounce with germany in sil messed me up, i think. did not account for that.

and now to answer smiley (i thought i saw more q's in the eog but the one about A04 seems to be your big one?):

Three reasons for Nao:

1) wanted to keep options open a little, depending on how the season went. obviously was going after either you or italy and thought i'd see which looked most promising.

2) wanted to confuse you and hope for more accommodating builds/spring 05 moves. saw that you were getting builds and wanted to increase chance that they would not be fleets. stabbing that fall would have let you organize your defense far too well.

3) i always think it's best to time these stabs precisely. i try to position in spring and capitalize in fall. as it was, F04 would have been a horrible time to stab. what could i do, support hol-ruh to mess up your line? that would have been terrible, as then F KIE A BER and we're gridlocked forevermore, practically.

was still kinda debating which way to go that build phase, but italy's two fleets and your two armies + the try on bur settled it.


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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
07 Jul 11 UTC
Atlanta Teachers Cheating Kids
This story is going to explode. Teachers cheating!!!!!!!!!! They should go to prison.
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Catch23 (0 DX)
07 Jul 11 UTC
Live World
Would anyone be intrested in a live world game? 5 minute phases, possibly 10
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
05 Jul 11 UTC
New Ghost-Ratings up
Indeed they are.

tournaments.webdiplomacy.net
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Sigur Ros (100 D)
05 Jul 11 UTC
Internal 500 Error
I'm playing my first live game and I keep being interrupted by 'Internal 500 Errors' - I tried to reload but I missed my go because I couldn't get back to the game from this error page. The help page that appears says the game will pause but it didn't and now I lost my go. I see the same thing happened to another player. Is there anything that can be done please?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
06 Jul 11 UTC
Soooo...If You Have Your Mouth Duct Taped, It Counts As A
casey-anthony-trial-acquittal-death-caylee-anthony-still-214100601

Really, that's one of the worst butcher jobs on justice I've ever seen...
And so Psycho Casey--how do I *really* feel?--goes free...seriously, if I ever get in trouble and actually commit a crime, I want HER attorney!
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Conservative Man (100 D)
07 Jul 11 UTC
Dream Theater
Has anyone else heard of this amazingly awesome band? They play progressive metal. They're not really well known outside of heavy metal and progressive rock fans. They have some of the best musicians in the world, but not a lot of people have heard of them. Has anyone here heard of them?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Jul 11 UTC
Is the decline of the West inevitable?
And would the decline of the West be good or bad? And if it is happening why is it happening? And if it's not inevitable, how to avoid it, and if it is, why? Relates to viewthread=738890
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Conservative Man (100 D)
07 Jul 11 UTC
Mute Feature
Why doesn't the mute feature block private messages from the person as well?
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
06 Jul 11 UTC
Noob building question
I own a SC, Greece (it is my color) and have no unit on it. I have 6 territories and 5 units. It is the build phase.

Why can I not build on Greece? The option to build is there for all other unoccupied SCs, which are coincidentally the same ones that I started with. Am I only ever allowed to build on my starting SC's?
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Tettleton's Chew (0 DX)
05 Jul 11 UTC
End Government Control of Medicine
As Obamacare threatens to give the federal government complete control of America medicine isn't it time to take a look at the empirical evidence from Canada and Great Britain?
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