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BarryChuckle (100 D)
23 Jun 09 UTC
Unpause request
the game http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11497 was paused because CommissarForWar was a multi, but he had already been eliminated before being banned.
Chrispminis (916 D)
23 Jun 09 UTC
Everyone in that game has logged in today. Is there any reason you guys can't manually /unpause?
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
I can't speak for anyone else, but it wouldn't suprise me if players in these paused games use the refusal to unpause as a tactic to frustrate.

This is a fast game yet it has been paused twice, and one player requested that we pause so he could go away for the weekend.

Its not as if we are waiting for the banned player to be replaced.
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Italy won't unpause because we wouldn't pause whilst he went away for the weekend, oh and he's being spanked in the game.

People like that spoil online communities!
Xapi (194 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Barry, if that where true, I'd tell you to suck it up.

If you didn't have the common courtesy to pause for him, why would he have it for you?
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
I'm sick and tired of all these pauses. Its supposed to be a fast game.

There are 7 in the game and one decided to go off to the mountains for the weekend. Well I say to him suck it up and go into CD if you can't be at the computer within the phase times.
Xapi (194 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Sure, but now you need something from him.

And you most likely won't get it.
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Phase times are known before the game starts, if you don't like it then play a longer phase time.
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
The game will eventually be unpaused by the mods, and in my opinion there should be some sanctions against players who deliberately try to spoil the game for others.

Bet he wouldn't be leaving it paused if he had 10 supply centres instead of the 2 he has!
Xapi (194 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Barry:

In my book, when you don't pause a game when a player needs it, you are spoiling the game for others.

If there were a sanction, both him and the players who refused to pause ahouls receive it.
Xapi (194 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
'should' receive it.
Not to mention this is a game where patience plays a vital role in long term and committed games. I would love a 72 hour phase game with high end people and the patience to analyze each move and move with intent. If I went away for the weekend in a 72 hour game I would want the courtesy to pause. Even the longest setting doesn't cover individual timelines.
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
It should be a democracy. When he wanted to go away for the weekend it was 1 for and 6 against.

When the game was paused (for no good reason apart from the default response of the software to a banned player) the votes are 7 for and 1 against.

At the end of the day this is a free site where you play for fun and kudos. The game in question is a 12 hour/149 ppss game. If you 'decide' you want to take a nice little trip to the mountains its no hardship to give up the small amount of points on offer.

Its just plain selfish to expect the other 6 players to adjust the game around you. If it was a 72 hour game or anything close to that then I might have considered the pause, but in this case he was asking for a pause of 6 or more phases.

Excuse my language, but thast just taking the piss!
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
should have been 6 for 1 against!
pootercannon (326 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
I am in the game as well, and I don't want to comment on it because I think it is improper to speak about ongoing games. If I did/could comment on it, I would say a lot.

I would like to ask a mod to unpause the game, though. Thank you.
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
I didn't want to comment either until he put the sarcastic comment about the delayed pause.

He has operned the door, not me.
OMGNSO (415 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
I believe this game is called "Diplomacy". In other words, you have to give to gain. If I was in your game, I would do my best to destroy you, and never deal with you, because your action in the pause votes proves you're not even reliable enough there, so would make a terrible ally.
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
@OMGNSO: who are you directing that at?
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
If you are directing it at me the can I point out that there are 7 players in the game and I am part of the 6 player majority.
Barry, I think you need to relax.
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
to get back on topic, Chrisp can you unpause the game please, its clear that the remaining player will not unpause on his own
Chrispminis (916 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
I'll unpause it because it was paused simply because a player who was already eliminated was banned. The pause shouldn't have happened in the first time.

In the future, votes require more than the majority, they require unanimity. Abstention is equivalent to a veto.

Unpaused.
BarryChuckle (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Thanks chris.

I do think that there is a fundamental error in the software though. Firstly that a game gets paused even if the reason for the pause does not affect that particular game. And secondly that someone can use the vote tactically.

I would suggest that the following change is made. If a game is paused, then a unanimous vote is required for 2 complete phases. After that, a sliding scale of majority could be used. For example, 3-4 phases would require a 75% vote, 5-6 a 50% vote etc.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
25 Jun 09 UTC
Totally disagree. If a game is paused it is paused and can be dealt with. Suppose I said I was going away for a week and you generously agreed to pause. Then, after 2 days it would be possible to resume without my vote, despite me telling you I was away and agreeing it.
I do think it would be nice to have draws for a certain length of time, but just how this is implemented still needs to be thought through
BarryChuckle (100 D)
25 Jun 09 UTC
I think that if you join a game with a certain phase length then you should commit to it.

Obviously there will be times when something unforseen happens, which is why I suggested the 100% vote for 2 phases.

Giving 2 phases would allow you to be AFK for upto 3 full turns.
Pete U (293 D)
25 Jun 09 UTC
Barry

if your were playing FTF with your friends on 15 minutes turns, and one of them got an urgent call which meant he would be away for an hour, would you wait? Especially if you knew it would be an hour, no more?

The same principal applies here - it's a game, and real life gets in the way sometimes. Pause ettiquette is part and parcel of the game.


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jbalcorn (429 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
USA v. Spain in Confed Cup Semis...
Spoiler ALert!!!!
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ag7433 (927 D(S))
25 Jun 09 UTC
NEW GAME: WTA - Drama Queen Edition
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11767

101 pts to join
30 hrs / turn
2 replies
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SirLoseALot (441 D)
25 Jun 09 UTC
Meta-gaming? need help from Admin
gameID=11097# I'd like to talk to a Dip Admin that knows the meta-gaming rules, etc.
2 replies
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scagga (1810 D)
25 Jun 09 UTC
A fanciful game for goodly chaps
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11765

Fancy a game complete with the illusion of fine wines and wenches?
4 replies
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Invictus (240 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Transformers 2
Just a little thing I noticed...
28 replies
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Zacinator5 (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
same as bottom
i would think that would be the movie UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6 replies
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jodabomb24 (100 D)
25 Jun 09 UTC
Joining game prices?
You know how you can replace CD players in games for a price? Well, does anyone know how that price is determined?
3 replies
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idealist (680 D)
25 Jun 09 UTC
Nature 2 - GUNBOAT - password in here
This is a gunboat game, which means communication between players are forbidden, both privately or globally. Please join only if you will follow the rules and only if you are an active player!!
8 replies
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rlumley (0 DX)
23 Jun 09 UTC
New Variant: Weird alliances
Has anyone ever tried a variant where you're required to ally with a certain person for a certain amount of time? (Maybe three years?) I think it would be really cool, especially if you come up with some interesting alliances. After that initial period though, you could ally with whoever you wanted to, and stab whoever you wanted to... More below
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Best players compete for ... 35 points???
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11513

6 replies
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Draugnar (0 DX)
24 Jun 09 UTC
All time favorite arcade game...
Since arcade games came up in another thread, what is yours? Stick to actual arcade games, not PS3/XBOX/Wii style.
41 replies
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ottovanbis (150 DX)
23 Jun 09 UTC
Moderator please unpause our game!!!
This game, link: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11392

has been on pause because of one player for I think slightly over a week now. The player did not leave a message reporting an extended absence before the pause was voted for, and I don't believe he was the original voter for the pause. Is there any way you can issue him as a civil disorder and unpause the game so we can finally play?
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germ519 (210 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
10 point buy in 20hr game join now
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11759
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germ519 (210 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
cheap game with good time
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11759
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vexlord (231 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
question
in the game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11403 if i am able to gain another sc as italy, but own none of my home sc's do i still get to build?
6 replies
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germ519 (210 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
live game starting soon (hopefully)
10 min turns 3 min build/retreat. starts when we get 7 people.

make a list of name if ur playing
Germ
3 replies
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czechveck (311 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
One Gunboat More
A new gunboat game is being started. 70 point buy in. 9 hours left...
4 replies
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rlumley (0 DX)
23 Jun 09 UTC
A bug with supporting a convoy.
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11598#orders

This isn't a big deal Kestas, but I figured I'd let you know. As Russia, my fleet in Baltic can support a move to Prussia, but if any unit were moving to Prussa, it would have to be convoyed through the Baltic. When I select it, it says no options available, you can't perform this order, so it's not really a problem, I just figured I'd let you know.
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2 more needed for a 5 player game
Starts in an hour. 20 point buy in. PPSC. 2 more and Italy/Germany will start in CD or 4 more and we have a full game.
1 reply
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Hackibert (25 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
another game that's been paused
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11319

and won't unpause because some player forgot his account or something.
Please unpause this game, thanks.
2 replies
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FloatingLakes (5034 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Please Unpause
Please Unpause World at War-9 (http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=11319). We are waiting on one guy who has not logged on in 5 days. The turn limit is only 24 hours.
2 replies
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iMurk789 (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
action movies
thought id start this thread just for fun, what do you guys think is THE best action movie of all time?
43 replies
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Baron Saturday (100 D)
23 Jun 09 UTC
Quick Question
What happens when you update orders, but for some reason don't finalize them?
Are they carried out, or do all your units just hold?
9 replies
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
22 Jun 09 UTC
Novice Attends FTF Tournament
Yes there are in-person tournaments, I attended a great one this weekend.
17 replies
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Wanje (100 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
Joining....
Fight For Europe is a game open for all who are new.... Only 10 points to join!
0 replies
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germ519 (210 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
live game starting asap
10 min turns 2-5 min retreats/builds. When we have 5 people signed up I'll make the game and hope 2 more people join in.
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hellalt (24 D)
22 Jun 09 UTC
i want to marry a girl that plays diplomacy
anyone interested?
86 replies
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Jacob (2466 D)
24 Jun 09 UTC
how did that happen?
I won game 11736. The pot was 100 and yet I received 108 points for winning a ppsc game? I'm confused...
13 replies
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aoe3rules (949 D)
23 Jun 09 UTC
Everything you read on the internet is true.
That fact is self-verifying, so it can't be wrong. Duh.
4 replies
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