look at Autumn 1902 where the german fleet in norway supported the english fleet to norway from the Norwegian sea while england also had a fleet in the north sea do you say that that was just a lucky guess?

also they are always both on at the same time
weird you think?

They're not multi accounters. I checked that. I can't check press at the moment, but I would say their moves are quite reasonable.

Germany's support hold of Norway is entirely superfluous and is clearly acting to just signal to England a willingness to co-operate. England's support for Germany into Belgium is easy to explain. Germany tried just a season earlier.
Germany's support for England into Norway was superfluous and probably good luck. I didn't check the full history, but I suspect there have been some failed supports.

actually i looked through the history and there is not one failed support as you say

england had tried for norway from norwegian twice before, it made sense that it would be the same, so germany supported it. the others are all obvious as that. plus, i don't know the english player, but have played with alderian and i don't think that he would do that.

okay it seemed a bit suspicious to me something you dont often see in a no press game
i would keep an eye on it though

Yes, i admit.
Me and Germany are on the same account. I played over a dozen games with both accs whilst never using them in the same game. Now, in this low point gunboat game my genius mind saw the perfect opportunity to take advantage. Bummer... no all was for nothing.


(irony-tags should be applied by readers accordingly ^^)

part of the twist of no press/gunboat is showing your intentions through your moves. alliances can still be formed, it's common, and with the right set of moves you can alert your ally to your intended moves.

Its something you see in a lot of no press games.
Supporting people is the *only* way to persuade people to ally with and help you

I have played with scotsh before and I had no problems with him at all.

also, you should always check the order history, b/c failed supports (signals about intention) are not always obvious in the maps.

Always on at the same time is fishy though, from an outsider's perspective.

Not really, if they happen to be in the same TimeZone.

Combined with the psychic supports. Come on.....

how are the supports psychic? the most important ones, the move had already been tried.

I just try to send happy feelings, like arranging my units in a rainbow towards Germany. Or was that an arrow shape...

Fair enough, djbent. Like I indicated, I have the outsider's perspective here. IF the supports are also psychic, it's fishy. If not, then my apologies to those involved.

Particularly good Gunboat players should be able to work in concert. It happens alot to stop leaders.

i agree maple, "psychic" supports are totally suspicious. but we have three supports in this game between england and germany - G supports E nwg-nwy after E has tried twice (not exactly genius), G supports hold at nwy (nothing psychic there, nwy was under no threat, this is just to show desired alliance) and E supports G hol-bel after G had tried in the previous turn. but you're right, i'm an outsider too so obviously i could be wrong.