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bartdogg42 (1285 D)
03 Apr 09 UTC
Hail Caesar!
New Game: 101 pts, PPSC

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9886
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1994anodomini (0 DX)
03 Apr 09 UTC
New game de France England Russia Italy win!
come join this game for 37D 20 hour turns, nor too good nor too too bad diplomats please quickly!
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Robyrt (113 D)
03 Apr 09 UTC
Wacky opening
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8326 - scroll back to Spring 1901.
Check out the German opening of Ber-Mun, Kie-Den, Mun-Boh. As Russia, this was an offer I couldn't refuse :-)
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Calvin (0 DX)
03 Apr 09 UTC
Game Question
Support from an attacked unit in the North Sea
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RBerenguel (334 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
Sitter needed
I'm leaving the site for a while, and in my last, I was about to throw my game by suiciding, but it is quite a bad way to do it, and would quite break the balance of the game. Could anyone sit my account until the game is over (I am over, I mean, I'm in no position to hold for very long). Thanks.
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TheClark (831 D)
31 Mar 09 UTC
Another Complete Waste of Time!
No! It's not another Diplomat1824 post
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Babak (26982 D(B))
02 Apr 09 UTC
Another WTA game: "Victory in War & Peace"
WTA - 60 pts - 30 hr deadlines
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9860

serious diplomats only - the game is called "Diplomacy" not "Silence"
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Kompole (546 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
New WTA 50 points/24 hours GUNBOAT
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9870

All welcome!
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airborne (154 D)
03 Apr 09 UTC
New Game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9877
The Agadir Crisis
25DP buy-in, PPSC, looking for anyone who has least played 10 game and has not CD.
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BlackNhite (100 D)
03 Apr 09 UTC
Subdue the Field!
New game, look inside for address...
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amonkeyperson (100 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
Komm Süßer Tod
End of phase: 24 hours
Points-per-supply-center
Pot: 47
Well? Kommen, death awaits.
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Great game! 24 hours, 5 points
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9868


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jadeth (121 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
New Game "Prospice tibi - ut Gallia, tu quoque in tres parte"
New game starting soon, 24 hour turns, join now!
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omarvino (100 D)
29 Mar 09 UTC
should I choose enlisted: army paratroopers/marine corps infantry
I'm leaning towards Marines. My Grandpa and uncle were Marines. Ultimately I am joining for what I hope to accomplish for myself and others, not for them...not tradition for traditions sake. Plus I have such great respect for the Paratroopers, there history and everything about them as well. Any thoughts?
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LanGaidin (1509 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
Miscellaneous question re CD or inevitable loss
I have a question of curiosity as a relatively new player (and admittedly already an addict) of Diplomacy. Is it common for players that are about to be eliminated to simply stop putting in orders, thereby having their countries go into civil disorder? When looking at joinable games (in progress), there a lot of CDs out there and I'm simply curious as to whether the game started w/ less than 7 players or if people simply stopped playing once they recognized imminent doom.
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njrsax (100 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
New WTA game
Come on guys, prove that the concept of WTA isn't a dying art!!!
60 point buy in

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9860
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S.P.A.O. (655 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
Unwanted Convoys...
Are they legal here?
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Onar (131 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
Must be Dreaming
New game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9867
40 hour turns, 40 point buy-in.
Any takers?
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Heilhitler (0 DX)
02 Apr 09 UTC
1914-1918 war for everyone
come to this fast game for not too experienced player. please quickly
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Incubbus (114 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
What is the big red cross for?
Anyone can tell me? http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9672 at "Munich"
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saulberardo (2111 D)
31 Mar 09 UTC
Please, unpause this Game...
Helo admins, for the reason I'll expose below I need you to manually unpause this game: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8577.
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rratclif (0 DX)
30 Mar 09 UTC
Leaving the site (temporarily)
See below.
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Incubbus (114 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
Move Order Question
If I move "army 1" to a country via an "move"-order and another "army 2" to the country "army 1" came from (also via "move"-order)... Will both moves succeed?
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trip (696 D(B))
01 Apr 09 UTC
could mods please unpause this game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9023
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airborne (154 D)
01 Apr 09 UTC
Another Idea
Since my last idea was bad (Russian Splits). Here another bad idea for the experts to look at.
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lkruijsw (100 D)
01 Apr 09 UTC
New Pouch is out!!!
http://www.diplom.org/Zine/S2009M/

With a long article from me about adjudications.
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Chalks (488 D)
01 Apr 09 UTC
Help: Austria
Oh boy I suck playing Austria. The 4 times I've lost (one loss pending) they've been as that country. Any tips?
Chalks (488 D)
01 Apr 09 UTC
*tips besides "make a move the very first turn"... the game I'm about to lose was an anomaly, work, school, and family things interfered with it. :(
nitish (2087 D(S))
01 Apr 09 UTC
Well, Austria's sometimes a difficult country to play. It can be a lot of fun, though; you need to be very active diplomactically! As general advice, read some of the articles on the Diplomacy Archive, for instance. (http://www.diplom.org/~diparch/resources/strategy/austria.htm) Richard Sharp's "The Game of Diplomacy" is also instructive and entertaining reading, though he sometimes tends to the "always one correct move" school.

One way to survive the first few years is to encourage conflicts between your neighbors and _their_ neighbors. For instance, if France and Italy are at war, Italy is less likely to attack you. If Russia is facing pressure from Turkey in the south and England in the north, the Tsar is unlikely to open a third front.

As a general rule (circumstances may vary, and you should always adapt to the individual games), I find it's better to ally with Russia than Turkey in the first few years. In two of your games as Austria, you moved to Rumania in Spring 1901. I think this is a dubious idea at best, as it earns you Russia's enmity, and Austria needs at least one ally to survive. This ally is unlikely to be Italy, and Russia is often the best bet. Settling on Turkey as an ally is slow suicide; after the conquest of Russia, he has _nowhere_ to go besides the Balkans and Austria. Try to identify 18 centers as part of a win for Turkey without Serbia or any of the Austrian centers, and you'll see why Turkey almost always stabs Austria. In "Pinin' for the Fjords", the one game you didn't attack Russia, you were doing fairly well until you supported Turkey into Rumania (with a Russian army in Galicia!); in return for your support, Turkey took Greece, Budapest and Serbia.

Often, though, the biggest danger to Austria comes from Italy. Even if A/R combine to take out Turkey, you have to beware of R/I then uniting to destroy you. I think that Austria has to either attack Italy, or guard firmly against stabs. Once you reach 8 centers or so, Austria is as good as any other country. I think I once saw stats that showed that _if_ Austria survived to mid-game, it was likely to do well.

So what should you do in the early years? One option is to ally with Italy and attack Turkey (try a Lepanto, or something like, but NOT the Key Lepanto). Italy's unlikely to attack you while he's trying for Smyrna/Syria. After destroying Turkey, you could suggest that Italy turn west while you move against Russia. Another idea is to attack Italy in 1901, though I rarely see this succeed. More realistic might be to attack Turkey with Russian help, and then attack Italy; in this scenario, you would take control of the Med while Russia focuses on the north/west. This is sort of like playing the role of Turkey in a juggernaut, but I think you have a better chance of pulling off a win than Turkey does in a typical R/T alliance. (I believe juggernauts are _significantly_ more likely to end in a Russian win than a Turkish win.) Perhaps part of the reason for this is that the new units you can create are much nearer a frontier than new Turkish units, which always have to travel a great distance; it's a question of tempo. I don't have good stats on this, though.

I'd love to hear other people's ideas, as well. One thing I wish this community had more of is articles on strategy and tactics, negotation, etc.
Invictus (240 D)
01 Apr 09 UTC
the best position I've ever seen an Austria in was in a game where I was Germany. I supported him into Tyrolia in 1901 and Italy crumbled one center after the other. Russia and Turkey were going at it and Austria took both of them while England grabbed St. Petersburg. Before I knew it he was only a center away from the win, and ended the game by stealing Munich.

In short, convince Germany to support Vienna to Tyrolia in 1901.
P.Ginsberg (125 D)
01 Apr 09 UTC
That is hard to do however, because most people that play as germany try(and usually fail) to acquire 3 new supply centers(Belgium, Holland, and Denmark) within the first two turns.
Onar (131 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
How do people fail that attempt so often? Maintainingcan be hard if france is competent, but getting there is easy...

As to the question of Austria? It plays well if you have good diplomatic skills. Talk to everyone before you decide what to do, and don't be afraid to make a stab.
Chrispminis (916 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
nitish covered it well. After the mid-game Austria becomes very formidable, especially with it's massive numbers of armies. You have to be wary of being stalemated though since it's easy to block up the Straits of Gibraltar and you can't build northern fleets and are easily stopped at StP and Kiel/Ruhr/Bur. Try to make sure there's enough turmoil in the west that no massive dominant power emerges to challenge you.

Otherwise, I think a Lepanto and at least peace with Russia is the safest way to go. Austria can expand pretty quickly if it doesn't have to fight on too many fronts, much faster than say, Italy or England.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
02 Apr 09 UTC
Austria is the country for the expert. Beginners get wiped out like dust because they just aren't capable enough in diplomacy.

The only advice I can offer you regarding Austria is, talk to everyone.

Turkey can be a nice ally if you talk things out well, but it's not so common. Especially since you're playing with beginners, Turkeys attack Austria every single time. No exceptions. He has to go, or else you go.

Italy, on the contrary is a good ally if you can persuade him to trust you. Admittedly it is easier for Italy to stab you than you stab him, but so long as you work things out A-I is quite hard to stop. They stand back to back, and win and lose as a whole. That is, if you can stand the assault of R-T from the start.

Russia-Austria is a nice one, but too often Russia sees the close, tempting supply centres of Budapest and Vienna. The same goes for Warsaw and Rumania. It's a good alliance from the start though.

Germany? Your soul mate. Ally with him. Work with him to stop Russia. If he falls then statistics say you will fall too, vice versa. The same applies to him so it's easy to persuade him to help you. One important thing: make sure he moves Kiel to Denmark, not Holland, and that he bounces Sweden with Russia if Russia attacks you. Most important, I repeat.

Good luck with Austria - I don't have much luck with her, I have a knack of getting wiped out in 1902.
Invictus (240 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
"That is hard to do however, because most people that play as germany try(and usually fail) to acquire 3 new supply centers(Belgium, Holland, and Denmark) within the first two turns."

What's the point of getting Belgium in 1901? Germany's tricky enough without getting England and France after you right off the bat.
Chrispminis (916 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
It's true that Austria is one of the tougher countries, but I don't think that success with Austria is confined to experts. It depends on your manner of play.

I have seen long term Austria-Turkey alliances work out before, there are always exceptions... but yes, most of them end up stabbing each other.


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Babak (26982 D(B))
01 Apr 09 UTC
New WTA game: "Let Loose the Dogs of War"
WTA - 60 pts - 30 hr deadlines
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9847

serious diplomats only - the game is called "Diplomacy" not "Silence"
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Alqazar (403 D)
02 Apr 09 UTC
20 point game, winner takes all
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=9855
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Suleiman II (339 D)
01 Apr 09 UTC
Rules on profanity?
Can I pretty much say anything I want into global chat, if I have cause. For example, if Russia and Turkey are juggernauting and being huge douche-bags, can I tell them to go fuck a goat? Can I get more explicit? Like..well..i leave it to your imagination.

Thanks for answering.
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