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Maniac (189 D(B))
12 Dec 08 UTC
Shhhh - do not open this post if you are under 12.
Question - does Santa really exist?
Dexter.Morgan (135 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
I'm not sure where you're headed with this... but I have a connected question - should parents lie to their kids when they start asking if Santa exists. I say no - but I know people who say yes, keep the fantasy going as long as possible. I figure that they are ready to know when they ask (if not before... I'm actually not a fan of the whole thing). To me Santa is symbolic of and supportive of the especially American idea that somebody's going to save you (it's like a Superman myth... or the promise that we have a right to be happy - rather than controlling fate that ourselves)... I don't think that it's healthy. Kids should focus on actual people in their lives and the compassion and generosity found there. Why is the reality less special than the fantasy? It gives a sad message once the kid finds out... the dream is gone... why not build on positive associations reflecting actual reality instead? I like reality - why do some find reality lacking?
trim101 (363 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
see miracle on 24th street
Dexter.Morgan (135 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Don't get me wrong, stories are great - and that movie is great... but I pick being real with your children... at least when they ask for the truth if not earlier. There was a real St. Nick - why can't we simply tell children about that? - real stories of giving have much more power than fake ones.
trim101 (363 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
you know how the story of the reindeer flying came about?
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Yes, he does exist.
But you've all been very, very bad this year - backstabbing and lying to your friends - so no presents!
EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
12 Dec 08 UTC
As a granddad of a 5 year old and another, let me assure you that Santa Claus exists. And he does care if you are naughty or nice, and he does like cookies and milk by the tree at night, with sweet dreams and joy for even the mice.
Dexter.Morgan (135 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
kids are great, aren't they?
Centurian (3257 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
I understand where you are coming from Dexter, but the kid is going to be exposed to the Santa myth one way or the other. Would you encourage it, or break the news? Does it matter how old they are?
Invictus (240 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
I wish he did. Christmas was so much more fun when I still believed.
Dexter.Morgan (135 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
I would not (did not) encourage it... my wife was behind it so I didn't sabotage her either... when they were old enough to ask I told them that some people believe in Santa and that it is a wonderful story and I would ask back if they believed. At about 8 years I would tell them the story of St. Nicholas... the historical figure... and more or less it was a smooth transition. My very sentimental 10 year old daughter knows that Santa is not real - but wants to leave milk and cookies out this year anyway (maybe there is still a hope in her that her logic about the situation is wrong).
p.Tea (101 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
@trim101

it is 34th street
p.Tea (101 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
p.s. i am not under twelve but it doesn't matter because i am jewish lol
trim101 (363 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
you killed jesus :p
eric.n.whalen (224 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Santa Claus certainly exists... Let me tell you why...

First off, you folks are thinking about this way too hard. What happened to your sense of mysticism in the world? Is there any magic or wonder left in this cold scientific place we've constructed all around us? In my opinion there ought to be.

However, that was just an opinion... I said Santa Claus does exist and here is why... Ever since I was a little kid, my mom has told me that if you stop believing in Santa, he stops bringing you presents. Well, he brought me presents when I was young, which shows he was around.... And still to this day (I'm almost thirty) I believe in Santa Claus! I proclaim it! And guess what? He still brings me presents... Living proof. I think all you non-believers will find this evidence incontrovertible...
Stevelers (3084 D(G))
12 Dec 08 UTC
You're seriously thirty, and your parents still buy you Santa presents? That's sooo funny. :)
eric.n.whalen (224 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
I'm not about to challenge that. Would you?
eric.n.whalen (224 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
oh, and by the way. My parents don't buy anything. Santa brings them...

(sorry Santa, I know you hear everything... Oh, yeah, and this year please bring me a new paintball mask. I've been real good. Thanks!)
Invictus (240 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
We still give presents from "Santa." If it's from Santa, that means it's small and you don't need to write a thank you note.
Friendly Sword (636 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
In my house, Santa merely fills everyones stockings with litte toys, candy (and in my case, socks :P).

All other gifts a inter-person.
trim101 (363 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
hey friendly told you i would take the win :p
Friendly Sword (636 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Oh, and I was Santa #1 last year. :S

(Don't tell anyone)
Friendly Sword (636 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Yes. yes you did. I don't have to be happy about it do I?
trim101 (363 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
lol of course not, you want to eog that game
warsprite (152 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Dexter if you ask people who grew up with the Santa myth, most would tell you they have no regrets and alot of fondness for the whole ideal. Most kids catch on before the parents know, and milk it. As for the slow ones breaking the news is usally done with tact. If you consider all the myths kids see on TV and the computer today what's one more. All so Santa and his raindeer and gifts started in Europe not the U.S.
xcurlyxfries (0 DX)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Theres a bunch of black santas where I live.
col.goose10 (100 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
When I was little, I set up an immpossible situation that nothing short of Chirstmas miracle could fulfill but santa got the gift for me and it kept me beleiving for a little longer. Most kids( at least in my family) test these things and belive based on their findings
Glorious93 (901 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Santa exists. Not as the stereotypical, laughing fat guy in a red suit, but as an international movement of parents buying gifts for children. He's not a person, he's a worldwide organisation, which makes you think... what else is he capable of?
Maniac (189 D(B))
12 Dec 08 UTC
now that's a Santa I can believe in, thanks Glorious93
DNA117 (1535 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Agreed.
Glorious93 (901 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
Glad to bring back the magic ;)
jman777 (407 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
So then is S.A.N.TA. an acronym?
kpd1030 (100 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
c. learning to give and not to recieve everytime
d. the joy of making another human happy during the christmas holiday.
e. Even young kids will learn that children who have no parents and are in the CPS child protective service, need gifts, as something has happen to their family to be there, so they have nothing.
f. If you can bring the JOY and thoughtfulness and giving and sharing of what Santa Clause means the your don't get it.
g. Eberneezer Scrooge got it. you can get it too.
3. In this Depression world wide right now, many, many people don't even have internet, ps2-ps3, laptops, games, loved ones, Love is sharing and sharing is love. That is what Santa is about. I dressed up for 25 years as santa, and made many smile, laugh, chuckle, I did not promise them what they wanted but put in their minds what they could do as a special gift for someone or someone not they know.
With much love, and respect and many knives in my back.
Kevin
From Las Vegas Nevada.
kpd1030 (100 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
Santa exsits,
1. What he stands for. Giving, not taking, sharing, not being greedy, learning not being unlearned.
2. Santa teaches us all to give, love, with out asking for something, remember the I want this and I want that.?
Fidobot (100 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
Saving the
Allurement of the
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WhiteSammy (132 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
there actually was a person who did such things as those told in santa stories

i cant remember what country he was from but he would sneek into peoples houses at night and leave the children presents.
spyman (424 D(G))
13 Dec 08 UTC
I am not into Christmas at all anymore, but I enjoyed it when I was a kid. My parents never really told me about Santa Claus though. I always knew my presents came from my parents. If I had kids I think I would be uncomfortable about lying to them. The other problem I have with Christmas/Santa Claus is the whole festival is so materialistic and driven by marketing. So much so that I have gone off the whole idea.
Tarablus (0 DX)
13 Dec 08 UTC
kpd1030

The concept of 'Santa' teaches us exactly the opposite of what you say. He stands for everyone in the world taking, for themselves, demanding everything they want and expecting it to be given to them on a plate with nothing in return but a mince pie.

Speaking as a non-Christian adult raised in a Christian school, what you're talking about is what Jesus stood for. Interesting that his tenets have been usurped by capitalism... and that most people have fallen for it.

Remember that Santa as we know him today started life as an advert for Coca Cola. That's why he wears red instead of green as he did in the 19th Century.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
Anyone noticed Santa is an anagram of Satan?
volga1 (100 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
I think Santa is really monsenor Rouco Varela or Adolph Hitl**
trim101 (363 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
you lose


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Loller123 (100 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
URGENT
two games for only 5d to enter, only an hour left to join
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7347
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7350
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Invictus (240 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
I'll Be Home For Festivus
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7356
20 point, 24 hours, PPSC
Why aren't more games advertised this way? It tells you to do it when you start a new one.
3 replies
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LitleTortilaBoy (124 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
What exactly are the rules for a retreat?
Is it that they just move to an adjacent area that is open?
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trim101 (363 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
The game will start momentarily
can we please change this to the game will start in a moment, as the game will start momentarily doesn't make sense.

It means the game will start and then stop.
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Marchosias (115 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
RIP Bettie Page.
We'll miss you.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jJ82vzTJfZkwzNZMVZhni6WG9D5wD9517PE80
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diplomat1824 (0 DX)
10 Dec 08 UTC
Suggestion
Maybe Diplomacy should have three types of forces. The army/fleet system is lacking. I vote to include a marine corps into the mix. These forces could move on water or land, but could only travel a certain distance from the coast.
28 replies
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Friendly Sword (636 D)
13 Dec 08 UTC
Saving Sinter Klaus
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7340
60 points, 30 hr phases

Will defnitely add to Holiday Cheer. In Germany.
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jt_i_b (597 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
Game paused for ages
This game has been paused since a player was banned. Any chance someone could unpause it for us? Thanks!

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6632
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wooooo (926 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Game: gpshs2
Join gpshs2
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Sicarius (673 D)
09 Dec 08 UTC
Fascism in America
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
72 replies
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trim101 (363 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
GL2184
sorry, if it wasn't my first win i would have held to my word. Shall we Eog the game friendly sword and GL2184
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wooooo (926 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Game: Real Time-2
Join game Real Time-2. 1 hour phases for those who can play this game out.
0 replies
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dagonspawn24 (100 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
The dark war
Join my game and you may rule the world
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dangermouse (5551 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
League Question
Has Group F really not even started game 4? Or is the league site just not updated?
6 replies
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alamothe (3367 D(B))
11 Dec 08 UTC
Let's boycott until resolved
i will boycott all games with civil disorder germany or italy from now on, i will not enter any orders in these games. i call other players to join
27 replies
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Jacob (2466 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
NEW GAME: His Craft and Power are Great
101 point buy-in
WTA (I'm trying to alternate between WTA and PPSC)
24 hour phases
+ Fabulous Door Prizes and sympathy cookies for early exits!
3 replies
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EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
12 Dec 08 UTC
Allan B. Calhamer and the 50th Anniversary of Diplomacy
Our game's creator: Allan B. Calhamer ((ABC nickname in the 60's)) will be at the World DipCon at Origins=Columbus Ohio at the end of the June. This is a rare opportunity to come and meet him. So mark you calendar, It would also be a great opportunity to have a rally of as many phpdiplomacy people as possible. Contact me for more info
EdiBirsan AT astound DOT net
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Sicarius (673 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
most sc's at games end?
I got 21 in this game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6511&msgCountry=Global

whats the most anyone has gotten, cheating aside
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VegHeadMoby (780 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
Austria
Tips, tactics, strategies....
15 replies
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kevindolan (144 D)
12 Dec 08 UTC
Suggestion for withdrawal in pre-game
Obviously people shouldn't be able to quit a game once it has begun, but I just hit "enter" with a link highlighted and accidentally joined a 1hr per turn game. Shouldn't there be a way to withdraw from a game while people are still joining?
5 replies
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
Why is IE retarted?
www.hobbitcentral.com
The vertical navigation bar on the left works on Firefox, Safari, Opera, and even Netscape, but I can't get it to work on IE.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
"The prime function of the state......
......is to promote people's freedom to live as they wish, providing they do not stop another from so doing. Thus we should prohibit murder, rape and theft as they effect the victims freedoms."

Discuss.
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chese79 (568 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
Moving from Finland to Norway
Is there a reason I can't move from Finland to Norway? Is this a bug or a "special rule" restriction?
4 replies
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Marchosias (115 D)
07 Dec 08 UTC
The Terrorism stuff from the France/China thread
Because I want to stop cluttering up that thread with all of my argument.
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Jacob (2466 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
NEW GAME TAKE 2: Doth Seek to Work Us Woe
If at first you don't succeed try, try again!
This time the buy-in is 101 points - just enough to keep from having to worry as much about multi-accounters joining up.
24hr phases - PPSC.
Free Tea this time since no one wanted the coffee =)
5 replies
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Mr.Coolio (100 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
New Game AWESOME!!!!!!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7316
Pot = 35
1 reply
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General_Ireland (366 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
Some People Make Threads to Tell You to Get Used to Things; Get Used to It!
Sorry folks, couldn't resist a little joke ;)!
7 replies
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Glorious93 (901 D)
11 Dec 08 UTC
4 more players!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=7306

Four more players needed for Bedlam. Keep those CD Germany and Italy out!
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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
10 Dec 08 UTC
Request to unpause a game
Please, can I ask Kestas (or another Mod?) to unpause the game http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=6346
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