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dargorygel (2596

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Anonymous Games

Sometimes... usually because I end up revealing who I am... I wonder what the point of anonymous games is. When we've played with someone, there are usually tells. When we have NOT played with someone, why do we need anonymity.
And sometimes I think that when I play anonymous games I might as well say who I am in globals. Stupid ellipsis and dumb proper grammar.

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If we built it

trumps wall

CommanderByron (801 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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I hate the idea of wasting our resources on building a border wall but if they do:
-We should open the project to Mexican laborers with the promise of citizenship after it's completion. This will allow us to pay them the 7.25$ federal minimum wage.
-The project should include solar paneling along the wall on its southern face. This will off set costs with energy that can be sold to the public.
-At various points along the wall effort should made to incorporate public parks, amphitheaters, and scenic vistas. This would increase the walls value to those immediately impacted by its construction.
-At various points along the wall factories and warehouses should be constructed which connect to the wall and allow Mexicans to work in US factories, these workers would only need to be paid federal minimum wage and the only requirement for the businesses who lease the space is that they must allow ICE to control the entry and exit points of their business and must employ 50% US workers in the factory. **

**this im not too strong on, but the rest I am.

Bladerunners (804 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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or instead of $ on the wall - help mexico fight poverty and crime --- so people don;t need to come to the US... just an idea

CAPT Brad (40 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

If we arrested those who hire undocumented and prosecuted them they wouldn't come here in the first place

Hauta (1618 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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Do NOT harm the job creators.

Bladerunners (804 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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you can't solve problem by arresting and prosecuting thousands upon thousands of people who hire illegal immigrants ... and sometimes people don't even know if illegal

also - these are people who too many americans think are criminals as opposed to decent people trying to escape the horrible conditions in their homeland for a better life

dargorygel (2596 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

I am on the right-wing side of things... but sometimes the arguments are foggy due to a misunderstanding of terms. I found this article interesting.
http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/is-illegal-immigration-a-crime-improper-entry-v-unlawful-presence.html

ishirkmywork (1401 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

I challenge anyone to name a historic physical wall or barrier that still has positive feelings and implications in human culture.

orathaic (1009 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

@"Bladerunners
or instead of $ on the wall - help mexico fight poverty and crime --- so people don;t need to come to the US... just an idea"

Some part me can't help but feel this is 'help the state power become more effective at repressing the population and forcing through unpopular policies which enrich the few and empower the already pretty powerful'.

How about the US stops trying to extend its law enforcement beyond the border, and actually address the underlying social issues in the US which cause people to turn to drugs. How about using fair trade and allowing migration to help Mexico help itself?

Carebear (100 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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@Hauta - Re: "Do NOT harm the job creators." That is really an absurd statement. If individuals or businesses hire workers that are not eligible to work in the US, then they are breaking the law. There is absolutely no case for them to be some sort of protected group above the law, even if you could somehow easily define that group.

This is simple free market supply and demand being manipulated by corporate America. The fact is that corporate America owns the government. Until that changes, no action will be taken to address the issue of illegal workers and unnecessary legal foreign workers. The fraud and low fees associated with H1B and similar visas, a legal mechanism for hiring foreign workers, is a prime example.

brainbomb (290 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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@ishirk. The nights watch has guarded the realms of men for thousands of years

orathaic (1009 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

What was the effect of the great wall of China?

What is the effect of natural boundaries, like the english channel seperating the UK from the rest of europe?

Sgt242 (1143 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

The typical illegal or undocumented, whichever term you prefer, comes across the border then receives free health care, free education for their children. The criminal element that cross the border crowd or jails and prison system. In both cases the cost us tax payers at the federal and local levels is unacceptable. Build the wall.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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The English Channel won World War II. We should build more of those.

CommanderByron (801 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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Thank god the celts dug the channel; it did wonders to keep the romans, vikings, norsemen, and saxons out.

Ogion (3882 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

Absolutely brain bomb. The wall should be built of ice and be 800 feet tall. There is a fine tradition of megalomaniacs building ice structures in the deserts

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/dictator-orders-ice-palace-to-be-built-in-central-asian-desert-51822.html%3Famp

ghug (5068 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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"receives free health care"

Uhh, have you forgotten which country we're talking about?

bo_sox48 (5202 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

It didn't keep the Romans out, Byron. It just made it not worth the bother. The missionaries had no problem getting there, though.

ND (879 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

"I challenge anyone to name a historic physical wall or barrier that still has positive feelings and implications in human culture."

-Great Wall of China
-Hadrian's Wall

Trump's Great Wall accomplishes the following things:
-Helps stop the illegal trafficking of drugs like heroin
-Helps stop human trafficking
-provides a physical barrier which when combined with a virtual barrier will help our (U.S.) border security and law enforcement agents to enforce our national security and national borders

Ogion (3882 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

I was thinking of the Great Wall of China as well, but ND, it's pretty naive to think this wall will have any effect whatsoever on any of those things you mention.

ND (879 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

what do we do then?

DEVOgeranium (226 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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@ND, It turns out that people just fly into our country as an illegal immigrant, and building a wall won't stop flights coming in from Mexico. Drug trafficking is the same deal, people can just stow the drugs away up their butt and fly across the border.
It does however provide a physical barrier, which when combined with a virtual barrier will stop all good will and sentiment from crossing the border, helping us enforce our national distrust of every other country in the world.

ghug (5068 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

Bo, the channel totally fucked Caesar up. That was because he didn't know what tides were though.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

Well yeah, ghug, but saying the Romans never got there isn't the same thing as saying the Romans under Caesar never got there.

Bladerunners (804 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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@ND - a wall will stop the drug trade? ... No. ... and keep the border secure? from what?

lol Ghug - definitely no free health care in the US that immigrants are striving to get in for

ishirkmywork (1401 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

We could just legalize drugs. Problem solved. A lot cheaper too.

Ogion (3882 )
30 Apr 17 UTC
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Well, we could address drug addiction as a public health issue with treatment programs and the like, but that would require 1) doing things intelligently based on actual scientific evidence and 2) raising taxes to pay for the more cost effective solution. Neither is ever going to happen in the US so we will forever 1) waste billions on a very expensive, destructive and ineffective prison system and 2) waste a ton of money and time on a completely ineffective wall because, well, most americans are barbaric idiots.

CommanderByron (801 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

@bo- sarcasm.

Sgt242 (1143 )
30 Apr 17 UTC

I guess you don't know how the health care works in the US. Illegals come across the border and when they need health care, they go to hospital. The hospital has to treat them knowing that the illegal is not going to pay. Then their children go to our public schools and again they don't pay. In both cases tax payer money pays for it.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
01 May 17 UTC

@CB ... sarcasm doesn't work on the internet without emojis.

CAPT Brad (40 )
01 May 17 UTC

Sarcasm doesn't work for political discussion. Neither do strawman arguements

bo_sox48 (5202 )
01 May 17 UTC

Neither does an e after the u in "arguments."

CAPT Brad (40 )
01 May 17 UTC

Hey spell check et al

CommanderByron (801 )
01 May 17 UTC

@bo. True. I tried starting with an absurdity. Thanking celts for "digging" the channel.

slypups (1889 )
01 May 17 UTC

Lol - a wall stopping drug traffickers. Armed border patrol doesn't stop drug trafficking - a wall sure won't do it. We'll probably be repairing it weekly (for even more $$$) for all the holes the drug traffickers keep punching in it at various spots.

We'd be more likely to stop immigration by spending the wall money on factories in Mexico employing people there - then they would not leave Mexico because they would have jobs there. Or spend the wall money on international propaganda making the US look like a horrible place to live - that would also keep people out.

Ogion (3882 )
01 May 17 UTC
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Actually you are on to something slypups. Don't make propaganda to make it a horrible place to work but actually make it a horrible place. That explains why these racist types vote republican. If they can make working conditions and wages as bad in the Us as they are in Mexico then brown people will stop coming. Brilliant! Now I get it finally!

Randomizer (722 )
01 May 17 UTC

You already have walls in border cities and the drug cartels build tunnels under them to ship product. Walls don't work.

Bladerunners (804 )
02 May 17 UTC

@St 242 - you're correct - i'm not American and therefore not an expert on your healthcare system. I may have mis-spoke. however - your health care system should provide free health care regardless .... ;-) and i still think if you look at illegal immigrants as criminals - that's unfortunate. help mexico deal with their problems and less of an issue .. don't build a stupid wall

KingCyrus (511 )
02 May 17 UTC
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The Chinese built a wall, and they have almost no Mexicans. Just saying.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
02 May 17 UTC

OH MY GOD you stole a joke off the internet gj KC

KingCyrus (511 )
02 May 17 UTC

Still funnier than you bo ;)

Hellenic Riot (1626 )
02 May 17 UTC

Internet jokes? On MY internet? Get out of it!

slypups (1889 )
03 May 17 UTC

But will this new wall also stop the Mongol hordes coming over the steppes? Someone needs to make Trump answer this question before we spend our money on this Great Wall.

jason4747 (100 )
03 May 17 UTC

Don't build a 2,500 mile long wall. Build a 2,500 mile long Wal-Mart. Mexicans come in from the south to work there, and Americans come in from the north to shop there. And vice versa. We all win!

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dancing queen (100

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03 May 17 UTC
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World Diplomacy Championship Videos coming along

The playlist for the 2016 WDC held at WeaselMoot in Chicago is here:

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03 May 17 UTC
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Unofficial Greatest Movie Tournament Thread

THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN!

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27 Apr 17 UTC

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Talk, or die! Reboot

"Talk, or die!" game got cancelled due to 3 NMRs before end of 03. Here's an attempt to start a new game with more or less the same settings.
Full press, 48 hours, (semi-)anon, DSS, 50 points buy-in, RR 90%.
Active players of the old game will have priority to sign up.

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Banning Jenetically Modified Organisms

I think we should probably get rid of Jenetically Modified Organisms. For a while I thought they were gone but they seem to be making a comeback. Our health is at risk people. Do you wanna sit in your moms basement eating old cheese? Are you tired of being tired? Does your back hurt?

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Getting Mexico to pay for the wall

Why doesn't Trump just impound Mexican land on the other side of the Rio Grande? -- land with a value equal to what it costs to build the wall. As a bonus, the wall could be built south of the river. That would make it easier to build.

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fourofswords (415

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02 May 17 UTC

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define metagaming

May I please get a specific definition of the word "metagaming"?

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Hellenic Riot (1626

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01 May 17 UTC
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May GR Published

All +1's are welcome for my intense and passionate hard work.

https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/theghost-ratingslist

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02 May 17 UTC

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Web players

Everyone be careful. There are a group of people who know eachother inviting people to their private games and metagaming to take coins. Just thought I should get the word out there.

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02 May 17 UTC

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Question?

What is the coloured bar under the communications box for? I cannot figure it out.

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01 May 17 UTC
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Rise in diabeties in Dwarven and Halfling communities

Recent spikes in Type 2 diabeties have led to dramatic dietary changes in many halfling and dwarven communities. The diets consisting mostly of ale, salted pork, and pipe weed have finally started to erase the accepted idea that these races were rich in longevity. Gout, Obesity, and Type 2 diabeties have all risen. Recent additions of Mountain Dew and Doritos in Dwarven Mine Snack halls may also be to blame.

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Jamiet99uk (898

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28 Apr 17 UTC
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Ed Balls

Ed Balls.

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CommanderByron (801

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28 Apr 17 UTC
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I challenge you.

Here ye here ye. The grand CommanderByron, lord of the stalemate, and sultan of supports. Here by challenges any person with a Decent GR and a RR of 63% or more to a battle. This battle will take among the forests of Germany, the deserts of turkey, the snowy tundra of Russia, the coasts of France and Italy and the rolling hills of England.

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30 Apr 17 UTC

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Game is looking for 1 more

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=196781

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10 Apr 17 UTC
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Invitation to Mafia Championship

It's that time of year again. Time for the fourth season of the Mafia Championship. I was hoping you guys would be interested in participating again this year.

The invitation: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E9x7nJkSPmv1ZtSKFdSmLsvD4DQoX13i2MA9VG5p4W4/edit

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30 Apr 17 UTC

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Question

Can your army/fleet move from North Africa to Spain?
What about fleet moving from Black Sea to Aegean Sea(I found it in the rulebook, but to make sure if it is possible in WebDiplomacy..)?
I have searched the rulebook, but the former question is not to be found anywhere. Help me!

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28 Apr 17 UTC

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Team 5v5 Modern War II Game

I'm setting up a team game of 5 players versus 5 other players (private game, unranked, full press).

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29 Apr 17 UTC

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Live game almost full

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=197106

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28 Apr 17 UTC
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End of Game (EOG) Statements: Why not?

As a relative newbie, I've noticed that no one ever seems to post EOGs in the forum. Is there a reason for that?

Is this something that used to be done but the practice fell away?

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Option to Publish private messages at end of game

I always wondered what private messages people were sending in full press games. Can we have an option when creating a New Game that once the game is over, everyone can review the private messages? -- Or does that already exist?

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Live Game Almost full

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=197048

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Jamiet99uk (898

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28 Apr 17 UTC

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I can be an asshole sometimes.

Sorry. I'm trying to be a calmer person in my forum interactions. I'm nice in real life. Honest.

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Yet Another Newbie Question

In a game, there was a support move order that was cut. To me, the graphic was ambiguous as to whom the support was provided. No player moved to the space. Is there a way to see the actual orders entered by my opponents after adjudication?

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Randomizer (722

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What can Happen on Over Booked Airline Flight

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/10/travel/passenger-removed-united-flight-trnd/index.html
Getting forcibly removed to make room. Another reason not to fly.

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Last visited: 13 Mar 2017

Doesn't someone have to eat a shoe now?

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27 Apr 17 UTC

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User Meta Gaming

The user "Twitchell" and "Communists Unite" are the same person. He created "Communists Unite" to take control of someone that left our game. Please ban for meta-gaming.

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Why didn't Obama prosecute Michael Flynn?

If what Michael Flynn did was wrong, then why didn't Obama prosecute him for it?

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Catholic School horror stories

When I was in 4th grade I puked on the girl next to me in church during an all school mass. It was on her coat and in her hair. I think thats why she hated me moving forward. Pretty sure her name was amamda er something. Share your nightmares of similair nature.

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jmo1121109 (3812

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Rules Question

"Furthermore, it is against the rules to make cheating accusations on the forum, even in cases where the user in question has been confirmed to own multiple accounts. The most frequent reason users create additional accounts is that they forgot the password to their original account."

Question inside

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