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Amon Savag (929 D)
16 Jan 14 UTC
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Wow
My last game was in 2010. Am I too old to play here again?
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hawkeye855 (5 DX)
16 Jan 14 UTC
Assigning Countries
A general question about assigning countries:
So, if me and a group of friends want to agree to pick the countries ourselves, is there a way to do that? I know mods can reassign countries based on previous threads, but is there a way that, if all the players in the game agree, they can be changed without the use of a mod? The game I'd like to have specific countries for is gameID=133754, if that helps at all. Thanks
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
11 Jan 14 UTC
KING OF GUNBOAT - 2
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Triumvir (1193 D)
13 Jan 14 UTC
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Something New: School of War Study Group
We had so much player interest in the Winter SoW game that it was suggested we do a Study Group game for those not in the main game. Details inside.
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ScooterBrown (100 D)
15 Jan 14 UTC
Anyone up for a live game around 12:00 pm Eastern?
Trying to find a quick game around lunch time. Anyone interested?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Jan 14 UTC
Weekend Sitter Needed!
Hey all,
A player needs 3 of his games sat for this weekend, so I'm posting on his behalf. 14hr Full Press, 24hr Full Press, 25hr gunboat. If interested, please PM me.
Thanks!
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semck83 (229 D(B))
15 Jan 14 UTC
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Beauty
Post things -- songs, paintings, photos, poems, mathematical proofs, or anything else -- to which you react, simply, "Dang, that's beautiful."
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President Eden (2750 D)
15 Jan 14 UTC
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Poetry
I don't get it, someone explain it to me
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Honeywillow (0 DX)
15 Jan 14 UTC
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I AM DC35 REINCARNATE
<3
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misfit815 (209 D)
15 Jan 14 UTC
Consequentialism versus Deontology
In the game of Diplomacy, the emphasis is - in my opinion - on one's mastery of Realpolitik. To borrow from Wikipedia, it is "politics or diplomacy based primarily on power and on practical and material factors and considerations, rather than explicit ideological notions or moral or ethical premises." In other words, making the best of the situation.
misfit815 (209 D)
15 Jan 14 UTC
Realpolitik is itself a manifestation of a philosophical idea known as consequentialism. That is, the morality of an action is determined by the consequences of the action. Or, "the ends justify the means."

Opposed to this is deontology - the idea that actions are universally right or universally wrong, regardless of the outcome. That is, an action is right or wrong based on rules that have been established.

Here is a hypothetical (though very familiar) scenario that explains the dilemma. The United States must decide whether or not to support (financially and/or militarily) an authoritarian ruler of a country in an unstable part of the world. The ruler is - while not yet tried in a recognized court of law - no doubt persecuting many of his own citizens, denying them universally accepted rights. Yet, the ruler's presence provides stability in that region, and his departure would undoubtedly lead to a myriad of humanitarian issues.

The consequentialist would support the ruler on the grounds that more lives are saved and/or improved by his presence than by his absence. The deotologist would block support of the ruler on the grounds that his regime is guilty of crimes and should be brought to trial.

Again, this is hypothetical, but obviously bears some telltale signs of actual events. My intention is not to have us argue the hypothetical, but to use it to illustrate the two sides, and to promote discussion.

This seemed like an interesting forum in which to pose this question. As I said, the game of Diplomacy is quite clearly a game of consequentialism. And, like most games, it is also a simplification or simulation of an aspect of the real world. So, does the game properly reflect the "correct" philosophy of real-world diplomacy?

I have my own opinion on this, of course, but I would like to hear from others first.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
15 Jan 14 UTC
Diplomacy has it's Deontology aswell, we forever discuss the immoral behaviour of sitting down to play a game with some friends and then up and wandering off without saying a word (CD-ing) and thus breaking an implicit promise.

These people are clearly no-good, like an arab dictator, and should be brought to justice, or at least prevented from repeating their terrible behaviour (maybe exile)

So is that the meta-game or an intrinsic part of the game, and is it right to cancel any game where there is a CD in 1901? And this even if your neighbour is the one to CD.


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nesdunk14 (635 D)
15 Jan 14 UTC
World Diplomacy!
One more spot! gameID=133445
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krellin (80 DX)
14 Jan 14 UTC
Ban Seat Belts Now!!
It's time to end the madness - the seat belt must go, as it is known to be a risk factor for injury during accidents! BAN Seat Belts NOW!
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/533761_3
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1996397
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shield (3929 D)
15 Jan 14 UTC
View: Threads, replies
What triggers these to add new discussions in the profile? I haven't had anything new show up since November.
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
14 Jan 14 UTC
A good read
https://medium.com/p/81 D10230282f

Love to hear thoughts from religious and non-religious folk on this. Thoroughly enjoyed reading through this (it's not too long at all).
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LordDavion (265 D)
14 Jan 14 UTC
Looking for someone to pick up England
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=132640
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MrBrightside (0 DX)
10 Jan 14 UTC
TIME Personality Quiz can determine your politics?
http://science.time.com/2014/01/09/can-time-predict-your-politics/

I took it and it was fairly accurate. TIME is reporting a correlation of r=0.604 after 17,000 responses.
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dirge (768 D(B))
13 Jan 14 UTC
Climate Engineering?
dumb idea if you ask me.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/01/140112190807.htm
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
14 Jan 14 UTC
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Made it into the Hall of Fame !
yeah!
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Yonni (136 D(S))
06 Jan 14 UTC
2014 GR Challenge
It's a new year and I'm sure some of you are looking for games. Similarly to what was done regularly in the past and what abg(or someone) organized in December, let's have some GR challenge games. Post here with your WTA FP rank, and anon and turn length preference if you're interested.
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ChrisVis (1167 D)
14 Jan 14 UTC
Somebody contacts you in a gunboat game ... what do you do?
Let's say you are playing in a gunboat game, and somebody sends you a message by email, Skype, or some other out-of-game communication method. The message refers to the gunboat game, and says something like "support me to Timbuktu", or "DMZ Timbuktu?".

The only thorough and complete way to rectify the damage done, is to cauterise the part of my brain which remembers the content of the message. Ouch!
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
11 Jan 14 UTC
Ex-Israeli PM and Strongman Ariel Sharon, 85, Has Died
http://news.yahoo.com/former-israeli-prime-minister-sharon-dies-85-125933133.html Love him or hate him, after David Ben Gurion himself, Sharon's probably done more to define Israel as a PM than anyone else...I know I'd still rather him than that nut Netanyahu...Sharon could be ruthless, but he knew the peace process was necessary, whereas Netanyahu's West Bank dealings are short-sighted and endanger the long-term welfare of Israelis and Palestinians.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
12 Jan 14 UTC
So Teddy Roosevelt, Ernest Hemingway, and Jeremy Bentham Go Rhino Hunting...
http://news.yahoo.com/black-rhino-hunting-permit-auctioned-350-000-033224692.html While it's admittedly morbid to auction off the right to hunt a living creature...if the rhino really is "male, old, and nonbreeding" and the $350K really does go to benefiting the rest of the black rhino population, and this particular rhino's already proving something of a problem because of his aggressiveness...is humane sentiment more important than practical aid in the way of the $350K?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
11 Jan 14 UTC
'Half of US Congressional politicians are millionaires'
src:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-25691066

my only question is, which half?
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
14 Jan 14 UTC
Do you want to beat a schizophrenic homeless man to death for fun and get away with it?
Become a cop first:
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Former-Fullerton-Officers-Manuel-Ramos-Found-by-Jury-in-Kelly-Thomas-Trial-239924741.html
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pangloss (363 D)
12 Jan 14 UTC
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"Where Life Has Meaning: Poor, Religious Countries"
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/01/where-life-has-meaning-poor-religious-countries/282949/

What do you guys think? Aside from The Atlantic's dire need for proofreaders, of course.
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nesdunk14 (635 D)
12 Jan 14 UTC
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Stupid ban
My account was banned, now unbanned, but I have lost all website points, and the leading spot in a world game. I would like to be refunded.
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
12 Jan 14 UTC
Neil Young at Massey Hall tonight.
Be there or be square.
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Lopt (102 D)
11 Jan 14 UTC
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Don't You Hate...
People who insist playing after a game is ruined by NMR's...
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dirge (768 D(B))
13 Jan 14 UTC
Do Webdippers have a temperamental attitudinal problem?
or, is it just me?

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/08/130826123147.htm
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thehamster (3263 D)
07 Jan 14 UTC
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Coming Soon: The Winter 2014 School of War
We'll be needing TA's and students. Please post in this thread if you'd like to participate.
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