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President Eden (2750 D)
24 Jul 11 UTC
How the hell does one succeed as Turkey?
I've done well as Turkey before, but rarely ever in high class play and never in high class play when I haven't jumped in mid-game.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
@SacredDigits, yes Turkey has some difficult obstacles to overcome but they are both a blessing and a curse for Turkey. Yes, the Ionian Sea, the Balkans and the Black Sea are hard to overcome, but once you do they are very easy to defend. If you manage to take the Ionian Sea and the 4 Balkans centers you are probably getting a draw and are pretty much guaranteed a survival.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
28 Jul 11 UTC
The new juggernaut is Austria-Turkey, which has worked every time I have used it.

My last 2 attempted Juggernauts results in 5 way draws. Guess which 2 powers were eliminated? (Germany and Austria in one, Russia and Turkey in the other)

But yeah, Turkey has the weakest starts possible now days. I seem to consistently get reduced to 2 sc by Austria and Italy before France intervenes and at best get up to 7 or 8 by games end.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
28 Jul 11 UTC
This whole thread is B.S. I'm playing my first game ever as Turkey, and kicking serious butt. Of course... Austria and Italy CD'd and I secured a Jugg with Russia in '01... but hey, anecdotal evidence for the win!
Fasces349 (0 DX)
28 Jul 11 UTC
My last game in a juggernaut:
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=61014
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
28 Jul 11 UTC
Now about that game that Fasces349 was talking about, if England didn't disappear and Austria didn't go CD, England and I (France) would have run the board. EF played beautifully until the *sitter* replaced the original England.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
28 Jul 11 UTC
Actually, I take it back. Even though I had half of Austria and all of italy for free... a 2 navy France is still managing very well to hold me back in the Med... I'm noob, but haven't made real mistakes yet...
The Czech (40297 D(S))
28 Jul 11 UTC
I always create multi accounts when I get Turkey. It makes winning so much easier.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
28 Jul 11 UTC
+1 Czech. That's how you win your games. How do I create multi accounts? Can the mods help me here?
Fasces349 (0 DX)
28 Jul 11 UTC
"Now about that game that Fasces349 was talking about, if England didn't disappear and Austria didn't go CD, England and I (France) would have run the board. EF played beautifully until the *sitter* replaced the original England."
Me and Russia were trying to set up a stalemate. And had Austria not messed up we would have gotten it (When he moved from Bohemia to Galicia, that is when I decided to make an alliance with you, rather then just claim to offering. I was fully aware that you were planning on backstabbing me and having you and England 2-way draw...
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
28 Jul 11 UTC
Since the thread made a comeback, I will post some things that I feel others should do. When I'm playing Russia or Austria, it doesn't really matter to me how well Turkey is doing unless he's doing better than I am. As a general rule when playing Italy, on the other hand, things are different. It's been my experience that Italy thrives in a 2v2 battle. Thus, my suggestions to all Italian players is to become the detective of the board and determine who wants to fight who and side with the underdog. The reason for this is that in the eastern conflict, you're the odd man out. No one has any means by which to affect you directly for at least the first whole year and that's assuming that you absolutely suck. If you're a decent player, then you have nothing to fear for the first 2 full years and sometimes beyond. When R/T is fighting A, ally with A. When A/T is fighting R, ally with R and when A/R is fighting T, ally with T. The reason for this is simple. Everyone wants an ally and when a player is faced with a heavy assault from 2 players, they desperately want someone to be on their side. When you ally with the underdog, you gain that 'friend' that is far less likely to stab you than anyone else on the board, even in later years (not to say they won't but simply that they're less likely to do so when compared to someone who didn't have the stress in the early years and have someone pull them out of a jam). Second, by allying with the weaker guy, you stand a higher chance of gaining a 5th center someplace because you actually have someone willing to support you in. If you have a 3-way against 1 country, Italy is always going to get the small share of the cake and it usually comes after everyone else had their piece. If Italy plays this way, then Turkey will always have an ally somewhere and Italy is usually a place I like to start.


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cpman (0 DX)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Please Join this Long Term Game
Hello all! I would like to ask you to join this game: http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=64615
Thanks!

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1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Lets take back this forum liberals!!
are we gonna let these conservative retards take over this forum? Liberals post your ideas here. comservative ideas will be deleted
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MaxVax (5610 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
could someone pick France? - low point game, good practice.
Could someone pick up France here?
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=63317&msgCountryID=7&rand=61916
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Menteith (171 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Newbie Question - Draw/Pause/Cancel Votes
I've seen the voting buttons, but I can't find anything on-site about how they work. What happens if you vote Draw/Pause/Cancel?
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
28 Jul 11 UTC
Can anyone defend Austria when being attacked by Italy, Russia and Turkey?
Can anyone defend the idea that a "power" can produce a better situation for Austria by diminishing the attackers' SC control in exchange for increased unexpected imposition of diplomatic pressure on the attackers?
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1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
LETS SEE HOW MANY POSTS WE CAN GET ON THIS THREAD!!!
JUST POST RANDOM CRAP!!!! IT WILL BE FUN!!!
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1brucben (60 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Politics on a Diplomacy website??? WTF
why are so many people spending hours making stupid points about politics on a diplomacy forum???? TALK ABOUT DIPLOMACY PLEASE. I agree to shutup my liberal trap if those conservatives do also.
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☺ (1304 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Can anyone defend SPARTAAAA?
Leonidas can.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Jul 11 UTC
My partial departure
See inside
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Can anybody defend stealing from the wealthy
Something that has always confused me is why people say taxing the wealthy is fair. How can one justify governments taking quadruple the money on those who earn twice as much as the middle class? How is it fair?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Jul 11 UTC
The Master of PR Disaster, Glenn Beck Does It Again...Says Norway's Victims=Hitler Youth
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/07/glenn-beck-hits-a-new-low-compares-norway-victims-to-hitler-youth.html

I mean...even for HIM, that has to be one of the lowest and most disgusting utterances this side of Jerry Falwell's blaming 9/11 on gays...
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Riphen (198 D)
25 Jul 11 UTC
Are you ready for some Football!!!?
Yes finally after 136 days in a lockout we can finally watch as are favorite teams start to select free agents! Who is excited!! ME! ME! ME!

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King98 (0 DX)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Live Game
I don't see many live-games going on... I find long term games boring, so I hosted my own http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=64593
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
The Prison Norwegian Killer May Spend The Rest of His 21 Years In
I'm not a crime and punishment sort of guy, but this might be a bit much
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Putin33 (111 D)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Dear Francophobes
Any regrets about your rush to hang DSK?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Chris Hedges: Hitchens, Harris and "Secular Fundamentalism Caused Oslo Attacks?
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/fundamentalism_kills_20110726/
Quite possibly the WORST PROFESS IONAL ESSAY I HAVE EVER READ. Stylistically lackluster at best and completely banal at worst, with an emhpasis on terms poorly defined and adjectives poorly used, it's message is confused and WRONG--WHEN has Hitchens had "twisted yearning for the apocalypse and belief in the “chosen people?" UTTER STUPIDITY...
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Agent K (0 DX)
27 Jul 11 UTC
Dubloon Challenge
Nimen hao,

Join this game to acquire dubloons beyond imagination.
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doofman (201 D)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Doofman returns!
That is all
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SergeantCitrus (257 D)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Can anybody defend baby eating?
I mean they make a good stew, but the meat is too stringy.
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Fasces349 (0 DX)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Obama's Speech on the Debt Crisis
What are peoples thoughts on it?
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denis (864 D)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Vanguard
I've been watching quite a bit of this TV documentary show, Vanguard, on CurrentTV. Just would like to know if anybody else has seen it. And start a discussion about the topics below.
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taylornottyler (100 D)
25 Jul 11 UTC
Disease - To eradicate, or not to eradicate
Given all the yicky microbes bent on killing millions each year, why don't we have disease eradication as a higher priority?
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1brucben (60 D)
24 Jul 11 UTC
TripleA
For those of you who love strategy games like diplomacy, there is a free software program called TripleA. almost any time a day you can find 20 users online to play Axis and Allies games. My user name is Colonel_Klink and here is the download site. http://sourceforge.net/projects/triplea/files/ it includes a link to the official forums too.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Jul 11 UTC
Welcome To The Obi Factor! (And I'm Inviting ALL the Conservatives In On This One!)
We have a great crop of crazed posts and threads that just seem to keep popping up in this last hour on how AWFUL the Democratic Party is and how the GOP and the Republican Way is, of course, the ONLY Way!
So--krellin! Tettleton! Conservative Man! And any others! Come on in and explain your positions HERE, in the concise No-S*** Zone! THIS IS THE FACTOR!
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thatwasawkward (4690 D(B))
22 Jul 11 UTC
Drunken Diplomacy
I'd like to set up a live game for alcoholics at some point in the future. Every time you gain or lose a SC, you take a shot. Every time the year changes, you take a shot. Every time a nation is eliminated, you chug. The idea is that as the war goes on, you become more and more "drunk" with power... only for real.
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Babak (26982 D(B))
21 Jul 11 UTC
Buckeye Game Fest XII (FTF dip Tournament)
Thursday 13th October 2011 - Sunday 16th October 2011
Columbus, Ohio, United States
Contact: Thomas Haver ([email protected])
Website: http://www.buckeyegamefest.com/
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gigantor (404 D)
25 Jul 11 UTC
Draws vs. Cancels
I just set up my first live game for months, as I have not had a whole lot of spare time recently. However, I was disappointed to see Turkey NMR in Spring 1901, Russia in Autumn and finally Italy in builds. More inside.
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dexter morgan (225 D(S))
22 Jul 11 UTC
An honest question for Christians regarding trinity
Trinity - god being one but three - has always and will always be something that I find impossible to swallow... but, for those who believe in it, it occurred to me that it is a model consistent with other Christian beliefs in a way that I hadn't realized before... I have a question about this...
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Indybroughton (3407 D(G))
26 Jul 11 UTC
A coastal question:
Fleet in Constan; Fleet in Bulg north coast. Can the two swap places:
Con-Bulg south coast; Bulg north coast - Con.
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