"Good lord. Can't anybody accept venting for what it is and just leave it alone? 27 replies, are you f---ing serious!? I recommend some more hobbies. Learn guitar, read some Dickens, gamble excessively, whatever. (and for those of you who are concerned, nobody's getting punched in the mouth)"

Welcome to the internet. You've obviously never been here before. To get started, you can try www.google.com (copy and paste that into the box at the top). Type in something that interests you (I recommend folds in the brain) and click to your hearts content.

@sketchbag, if you are going to vent about someone stabbing someone, which is part of the game. you don't have to give reasons for stabbing, and some people in this game are little bitches, by venting here you sound like a little whiny bitch. so what is the difference then between you and this other person??

@rlumley- I agree with your last post.

haha i left a sentence out of that post. whatever.

"Good lord. Can't anybody accept venting for what it is and just leave it alone? 27 replies, are you f---ing serious!? I recommend some more hobbies. Learn guitar, read some Dickens, gamble excessively, whatever. (and for those of you who are concerned, nobody's getting punched in the mouth)"

You mean you posted that with the intention of us not replying?! Well, it's a nice surprise.

Other players make their own decisions for their own reasons and that's the way the game is meant to be played. It is silly to expect other players to play the way *you* think they should play.

getting back on topic:
I think that when a stabee goes on that rampage, that it's the stabber that has convinced him to do it. It's your job as the stabee's victim to get him to look at reason and convince him that you can get his home SC's back with your help.

If you can't convince him, you are playing with a newbie that can't get away from a grudge, which is not a good diplomacy player to play with.

... I only just read the rest of the thread. I thought the OP wanted a discussion. Perhaps not. Okay whatever.

95% agree with fortknox. it sucks, but it's really on you to convince them of what to do instead. that's why being nice before, during, and after a stab pays off for some people - you can convince them of the wisdom and benefit to them of still working with you.

the 5% reservation is that a newbie that can't get over a grudge is not so rare, and not necessarily a player to avoid. again you gotta kill them with kindness, no? getting pissed off at them is surely not going to help. and then if you find yourself with them in another game, then you already have good footing, and have taught them something about the game.

Ha DJBent, you sure kill people with kindness!

But you forget that some people have that grudge for the fact that you stabbed them. Kind or no, that's not something that people easily forget.

Heh... DJBent reminded me of a line from Good Fellas:
"For a second I thought I was dead. But, when I heard all the noise, I knew they were cops. Only cops talk that way. If they'd been wiseguys, I wouldn't have heard a thing. I would've been dead. You see, they come to kill you with smiles on their faces..."

Of the many replies that I looked over, I've deigned to read only 2 in their entirety. Kudos to fortknox and djbent for having constructive things to say. If I left anyone else out I apologize, but (at the risk of adding fuel to the fire) from what I skimmed it seems that the majority of you have nothing better to do than to go around blasting OPs, polluting forums with your inane drivel. (And yes I am aware of the irony that my original post was merely a pollution of the forum and a waste of bytes, something for which i do apologize. But we all know that 2 wrongs don't make a right. I'm further aware that this post could also be construed as another such wrong, so don't bother pointing it out. You wouldn't be clever for doing so, and nobody cares).

Executive summary:
fortknox and djbent = good
rest of you (with few exceptions) = petty, puerile, and generally douchebags
Now let's see if we can't bring the total number of replies to 100 within a 24 hour period shall we? Come on, now. We've still got about 4 1/2 hours. We can do it!

I can attest to the fact that Ms Bent is the most gracious stabber.

Sketchbag=douchebag=troll=not feeding anymore...

Gracious, and very difficult to dislike. But I'm sure some of us manage.

Let's turn this into a thread about what a nice person djbent is!

Votes so far that djbent is good (nice, gracious, etc): Sketchbag, Xapi, Onar, and now me.

Draugnar is saying "me too!" like some brain-dead AOLer.

@Onar/Xapi:
Gracious stabber, and very difficult to dislike.

I can say this about MadMarx as well as djbent (which I hope doesn't blow up her ego) ;). That's what makes both of them very good (and very dangerous!) diplomacy players...

"I thought this was only true when comparing across species, not members of said species."

Yes, the brain-body size ratio is a much more significant factor interspecies than intraspecies, as is the amount of folding. I also want to go to Med School. =)

Let's keep this discussion about intelligence and brain folds. =D

I'll bet djbent has quite the nicely folded brain... (Innuendo, ftw!)

<rolls eyes>, here we go again. If you want DJB to respond to you, you HAVE to show more respect, Onar.