Can I get a link to this game?
Or possibly an explanation? What exactly did you say?

Can I get a link to this game?
Or possibly an explanation? What exactly did you say?

No links...it doesn't matter. And please don't look for it.

I'd like to keep this as general as possible.

Alright.

I might do the same in that person's position. You always have to be careful about how much you reveal, and what you reveal. This is Diplomacy. Nobody's really your ally. I don't think I've been very open with my moves unless I'm organizing a grand alliance that needs extremely fine tuned and coherent co-operation.

i don't understand, you might as well explain it in detail

Well, without getting into specifics, we sorta needed to be somewhat revealing if either of us were committed.

But, I understand the whole "nobody is your ally" thing.

I just needed to vent and, literally, there is no one I can vent to. I am the only person that I know that plays this game.

I can't really get into specifics, it wouldn't be right.

I'm not looking for an analysis, I know I F'ed up...just wondered if anyone else had experienced something similar.

I can see that happening. Most people don't communicate enough here, but sometimes it's like "Just shut up already and play the game".

yeah, just take it as a lesson i guess
;)

Perhaps its not the exposition but the content. If you kept suggesting plans he thought favoured you, its not long until you stab him, so he has to stab first.

Happens from time to time - you can never know for sure whether it is better to discuss plans and share ideas and when you cross the limit and someone decides to take advantage of it.
The opposite happens also (someone stabs you because they have no clear visibility for the long-term).

It will pass - start a new game and kill someone :)

I have Darwyn, and to use an overused expression, I feel your pain!

A couple of nasty stab wounds later, and I try and keep vague, without posting my orders too much, or revealing too much of my hand. It's so frustrating sometimes, but it's all swings and roundabouts. Just look for the next opportunity you get for the opposite way around!

I've experienced the same for the opposite...

Basically, because I kept my cards so close to my chest with an ally, he stabbed me anticipating I was going to stab him.... d'oh.

There's a comfortable medium... but its tempting to share all with a great, long ally...

I kind of like sharing a lot. Sometimes, I wind up making promises I can't keep, though.

If people don't share with me, I pre-emptively stab them for failing to be trustworthy.

Reminds me of a friend's strategy: Keep talking, and they won't stab you. Works against me ^^

Darwyn - i'd say that 8 or 9 times out of 10 this will not happen and in fact more press is to be encouraged. Generally (and only generally) the more open an ally is the more sincere his overtures to you are likely to be.

It just shows you that everything in this game is situational... nothing works 100% of the time.

I am not sure how you can predict what happened to you in your current game... perhaps look for some clues in their previous press?

LoL.. I usally tell everyone what I'm going to do, even my enemies. Nobody ever believes me anyway. It seems to continually confound everyone how I actually do what I say I'm going to do. Come to think of it, I probably fall exactly into the category you are talking about. I talk so much that I MUST be trying to pull a fast one... hmm... I must meditate now.

Thanks fellas! I'll probably have to rethink my strategy from now on.

Braveheart - I wish I could reveal more because the question you asked is very pertinent. In fact, I suspected a stab based on his press and some sound logic. We talked it out and actually built a rapport. And that's when I felt comfortable enough to discuss our options openly.

I even accused him of planning it all along, but he assured me it was due to my open discussion. So who really knows, eh?

This stab rivaled only one other stab I received...but it was in a game that I was already down and out, so it wasn't as impactful. I think I'm pretty good at judging when a stab is coming (whether I weigh it's likelihood as being imminent and to be acted upon is another story) but I never even saw this one coming. I suppose that what makes a good stab though.