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SrgtSilver64 (335 D)
09 Feb 09 UTC
Is it poor sportsmanship or what?
What would you call it if a player who is obviously going to win because they have 17 supply centers decides not to take a supply center, but is instead intent on letting a weaker "friend" take you completely over from 13 SC's to 0. Just wondering and I would love to see your answers.
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MatGB (100 D)
11 Feb 09 UTC
France with 5SPs CD in '03
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8591

The game's in the early stages, but I only just took England from CD in '02, giving Germany a massive advantage.
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ungaro (1114 D)
11 Feb 09 UTC
Suicide
Not what you think ...
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mwalton (2561 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Please for unpause for gameID=8461
This was a game that was paused when Concorde left. He is back, but we have alteast 1 country that has not logged in since Sunday (who would be CD by now).
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V+ (5402 D)
11 Feb 09 UTC
Support for another power's attack in a gunboat game?
Does that seem suspicious to you? Check out this board (http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8544). Ita supports (Tur) A Bul-Gre and (Rus) A Tyr-Vie. In a gunboat game, that's either uncanny anticipation or dodgy coordination. I'd bring it up in the game's global chat, but I don't want to break silence.

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abab (1312 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
top tournament
Looking at the Hall of fame, it is striking to me how many very high pot people is there. There is "material" for a over-2000 tournament (31 players have more than 2000 points), or even an over-3000 tournament (13 such players; with one more volunteer, two full games could be launched)..
As a very interested spectator (not enough time to be an active player currently), I wish such a tournament organization might happen.
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Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
11 Feb 09 UTC
Two players needed - 287p to join - 24h PPSC
This is the game link
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8660

4 hours left and hopefully we'll not have to start with CD Italy/Germany
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RBerenguel (334 D)
11 Feb 09 UTC
Game vanishing
I created a game but forgot to give it a name... as it had password, I just have created another. What will happen when time runs out and only one player (me) is left in it? I get my points back and the game disappears, I hope/guess. But... is it true?
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sswang (3471 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
/unpause
How does it work? message inside
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Maniac (189 D(B))
10 Feb 09 UTC
Does anyone know if
the player facing bush fires is safe?
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superchunk (4890 D)
11 Feb 09 UTC
Great 15hr game about to start in a couple hrs!!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8661

Hurry, 15hrs, 15pts!!! Lets play quickly.
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Babak (26982 D(B))
04 Feb 09 UTC
A suggestion for Kestas and other developers
I wanted to suggest that you split the "games" tab into "CD openings" and "pre-game" or whatever. and I think you should only allow players who have FINISHED a game to play a CD position. (more explanation below)...
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Jerkface (1626 D)
11 Feb 09 UTC
Free Fun Language Learning
I've been having a real fun time in the last couple of days learning Spanish on www.livemocha.com. They have other offerings, but it's a pretty darn cool website. You can submit audio and typed samples to get them corrected by natives from all over!
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Tetra0 (1448 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Game "Enemies Closer"
A new game, pot: 75.

I am creating it mainly so me and a couple (2-3) of my friends at UW-Eau Claire can play diplomacy, but we'll need more players. I can promise (at least on my part) that there will be no metagaming, and I guarantee that we all stab each other pretty often, so no need to worry about "unbreakable" game-ruining alliances.
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
New Team Tournament
So I had an idea for a new tournament played in teams. All entrants would be grouped into teams of 3, and every game would be between 2 teams with CD Italy. I would use the ghost ratings to assign teams. Does this sound appealing to anyone? Any suggestions? This idea needs refining, and if the tournament happens it won't be for at least a month or so.
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
10 Feb 09 UTC
new game...
For all of you cheapskates.
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maintgallant (100 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Yet another Kestas/Developer suggestion
There are individuals that one does not get along with, or has suspicions of multi-accounting/meta-gaming. It would be very useful if during the game set-up process (or even in my own options menu for a more permanent solution) I could make a public game that excluded certain players, or simply have them denied access to games I am playing.
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mab (113 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Disbands
If someone has no retreats available, or no SCs left (and so the disbands in autumn are a mere formality), why does the game wait for user input?

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LiesAllLies (160 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
"European Death"
24 hour phases, 30 point buy in, and....idk...join
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mwalton (2561 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Do Something Different! starts in 4 hours
75 points
18 hour phases

Currently only has 3 players.
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Troodonte (3379 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Unpause - Beginnings Autumn 1903, Retreats
This game was paused cause one of the players lives in Victoria - Australia and asked for during fthe fires.
Now, that player wrote /unpause, like all the players, except one that has ZERO SC and is not connecting anymore /he has only one more game running and is almost finished too).

Could someone unpause it for us?
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Concorde (0 DX)
08 Feb 09 UTC
moderators/admin- URGENT- Natural disaster is about to affect my games
Hi-
I live in Vitcoria, Australia, and fires here have killed 50 people and cut off my town as it comes down on us- i need all my games paused- or someone to take em over for a week?
URGENT
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jwm0112 (100 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Control (Loss) of Supply Centers
France moved into Spain in the Spring and then on to Portugal in the Fall, and somehow managed to lose "control" of Spain at the close of the Fall turn. I am under the impression that control is maintained until it is taken away. Is the loss of a supply center by moving from it a rule specific to this site or am I missing something?
Centurian (3257 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
You gain control of a supply centre by ending up in it at the end of the year. It is then yours until someone else ends the year in it. Consequently you can move through supply centres in the spring turn without taking them.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 Feb 09 UTC
Control of centers is determined after every autumn retreat phase. If he moved out of Spain before that time, he would not gain control over it.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
@ jwm0112 - you do have to check out the game rules - it just makes no sense to ruin your games otherwise.

And this is a generic rule of Diplomacy - not something specific to this site only?
jwm0112 (100 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Here is the statement of the rule directly from version 5 of the official rulebook to Diplomacy by Avalon Hill:
"Once a country gains control of a supply center, it can leave the center vacant and still keep control of it, as long as that center is not occupied by another country at the close of a Fall turn. A unit that moves into a supply center during a Spring turn and moves out of it during the Fall of the same year does not affect the ownership of the supply center. In short, a country retains control of a supply center as long as, at the end of each Fall turn (including retreats), the supply center is either vacant or is occupied by one of its own units."
So what am I (are we) missing?
Centurian (3257 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
I don't know... did you read that passage? Let me help:

"A unit that moves into a supply center during a Spring turn and moves out of it during the Fall of the same year does not affect the ownership of the supply center."
jman777 (407 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
umm, could you give us the link? and btw, jwm, if those are your initials, then we have the exact same ones.........just though that was sort of odd.........................
jwm0112 (100 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Did you read the sentence after that one, that begins: "In short..."? That seems pretty clear.... When it says "does not affect the ownership" in the preceding sentence, it means by moving out of the supply center ownership is NOT taken away, not the other way around....
Thucydides (864 D(B))
10 Feb 09 UTC
Basically if you aren't there in any fall turns to begin with you never had "ownership" to affect. I used to play the way you say, and had a nasty surprise as France with Spain as well lol. But trust me when I tell you that it is correct the way it is.
jwm0112 (100 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Here is the link (in pdf - pg 17 of 24):

http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf
Dunecat (5899 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Yeah, everyone else is in agreement jwm, this is just the way it is.
Centurian (3257 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
Ownership only changes at the end of each year. I can't make that any more clear. IT does not change party way through and thus, the fact that you were in Spain part way through is meaningless.
Ivo_ivanov (7545 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
@ jwm0112 - France never owned Spain in your scenario. He did not lose it - he never controlled it.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 Feb 09 UTC
"A unit that moves into a supply center during a Spring turn and moves out of it during the Fall of the same year does not affect the ownership of the supply center."
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I can see how this part may make it a bit confusing. But, if you consider Spain to be neutral, then this sentence applies. It was neutral and stayed neutral.
The next line, however, should clear up any confusion:
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In short, a country retains control of a supply center as long as, at the end of each Fall turn (including retreats), the supply center is either vacant or is occupied by one of its own units.
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In your case, Spain is "owned" by a neutral territory, and it remains neutral because of the above statement.
jwm0112 (100 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
I understand. Control is not obtained until the territory is held at the end of the Fall turn. Once control is obtained, it is not lost until taken.

Thanks for the help.
EdiBirsan (1469 D(B))
10 Feb 09 UTC
Think of it as musical chairs and it only counts what you are sitting on when the music stops.

The other way that I explain things is to think of the Spring move as Tourist Time in Europe where you pass through and take a look at different places, but it is in the Fall that you settle down for the winter and that is the places that count for control.
This is also where we get the term "Spring Raid" to apply to a place that you moved into in the Spring and then moved out without ever establishing control over the province. The most common place for this to occur is Spain in 1901 as the French move through it to get an army in Portugal or
move back to cover Marseilles from a threat via Piedmont or Burgundy and wind up getting back to Marseilles thus again never owning Spain.


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DipperDon (6457 D)
08 Feb 09 UTC
Pre-planned Alliance vs Preplanned Adversary
I've read many comments in other threads saying it is unethical to go into a game with a pre-planned alliance.

What about being a pre-planned adversary?
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SrgtSilver64 (335 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
"The Most Dangerouse Game"
10 points buy-in
24 hour phases
JOIN NOW!!!.....please
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Sicarius (673 D)
08 Feb 09 UTC
Help me with history
someone tell me of a country that has created a secret prison system where torture takes place, that didn't eventually turn it against its own people.
modern countries only (last 150 years)
do this and I will come to your house and cook you dinner
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Sicarius (673 D)
09 Feb 09 UTC
BASH BACK!
I'm curious what some of you think of BASH BACK! and would like to hear your opinions

if you have no idea who they are you can easily find out
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
08 Feb 09 UTC
New game...
Easy Roasted Fennel.
All are welcome. Try this out. It's a yummy vegetable.
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superchunk (4890 D)
10 Feb 09 UTC
NEED ONE MORE! hurry.
Gunboat game, 75pts, PPSC, starts in ~2hrs
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=8629
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Lord Alex (169 D)
01 Feb 09 UTC
Medieval Total War II
Does anyone here play it???
68 replies
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