Should we also force them to say the pledge of allegiance each morning? and make the refrigerator a privilege?

nothing says "freedom" like compelling obedience to the military

Or thread could also be called idiot crybaby punks run their mouth on the internet from the safety of Mommy's basement before they are out in the real world and before they are capable of taking care of themselves because they cant spell.

One of the two happens a lot more than the other.

@BelowAverageWhiteBoy

um... the main complaint about Kapernick was that a millionaire football player decided that not kneeling for the american flag is an effective way to combat white supremacy. i literally haven't heard a single right-wing commentator saying he didn't have the right to protest, they just thought he was extraordinarily dumb

People sit during the anthem at home
People sit during the anthem at the bar
Students are allowed to sit during the pledge at school. It is a legal right to stay seated

Read this
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/us/2017/09/16/detroit-teacher-on-leave-after-allegedly-physically-forcing-student-to-stand-during-pledge.amp.html

We are protecting the 2nd amendment feirce as fuck. Why are we just ignoring the 1st Amendment?

you know what, i really shouldn't have jumped in here. too much bait

https://media.giphy.com/media/4pMX5rJ4PYAEM/giphy.gif

Tomi Lahren argued against Kaepernicks rights Yanik

the teacher got put on leave, the law works.

#NotAllAnecdotes

It does. Until Republicans repeal the first amendment and force prayer into schools and start making super human right wing clones

@brainbomb

god i hate Lahren, but i think you're wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq0_nyWVXCI

key part at 0:34

Oh is that moron from kansas trying to chime in again? Why is this dude even still here? These low intelligence scumbags coming on here who have no concept of scientific method or theory start preaching at us about why systemic racism isnt real or doesnt exist. Apologizing for supremecists by finding three anecdotal racist black groups from the 1960's and trying to mass apply that to today to imply black people are equally racist to whites.

Ive muted him as he has nothing but sean hannity talking points to inundate us with.

"Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way."

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/lifestyle/general_lifestyle/july_2013/more_americans_view_blacks_as_racist_than_whites_hispanics

i'm just going to leave this here

Yanik, it has no value to dump a load of opinion on a topic. The headline alone should tell you its not a terribly valuable way to understand racism.

"People think _____ is more racist than _____"

Who fuckin cares?
I thought you were all.about FACTS on racism not arbitrary polls showing people -OF COURSE- have no clue who is racist or WHAT racism even is.

"Oh is that moron from kansas trying to chime in again? Why is this dude even still here? These low intelligence scumbags coming on here who have no concept of scientific method or theory start preaching at us about why systemic racism isnt real or doesnt exist. Apologizing for supremecists by finding three anecdotal racist black groups from the 1960's and trying to mass apply that to today to imply black people are equally racist to whites.

Ive muted him as he has nothing but sean hannity talking points to inundate us with. "

So apparently by pointing out that all racism is bad and racism exists everywhere gets translated to the above.

Apparently stating all racism is bad equals apologizing for supremacists lol

And people wonder why the future is completely screwed when you have idiots like this lacking the ability to comprehend plain English.

"I thought you were all.about FACTS on racism not arbitrary polls showing people -OF COURSE- have no clue who is racist or WHAT racism even is.

Yet when facts are supplied that racism is everywhere and not just White America, this clown cries and whines that everyone else has no clue what racism means.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Muting ppl is awesome. Theyll keep trying and they know you cant read theyre bullshit.

I see a blip.

A little silhouetto of a sad racist curmudgeon. Psst hey douchebag I think kansas is losing to west virginia. Lol

@Yanik you cannot claim to SUPPORT SOMEONES FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS - and in the same video tell them they arent welcome in America and that they need to leave if they dont like things the way they are. Those two ideas are in direct competition to each other. Anyone has a right to protest anything about America... ANYTHING and it doesnt EVER make them subject to deportation, unjust harassment, or anything like what she said in that video. The first amendment gives he the right to say stupid shit. But it doesnt give her the right to demand he leave america because he doesnt meet her FUCKED UP standards

"Muting ppl is awesome"

Muting people is the cornerstone of close minded thinking.

"@Yanik you cannot claim to SUPPORT SOMEONES FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS - and in the same video tell them they arent welcome in America and that they need to leave if they dont like things the way they are. Those two ideas are in direct competition to each other"

LOL!!!!!

Actually, no they are not.

That is the supreme definition of the First Amendment Rights.

Disagreeing with what someone has to say is not a violation of First Amendment Rights.

Voicing direct opposition to an opposing viewpoint is the ultimate definition of First Amendment Rights.

Sadly ignorant, spoiled, pampered snowflakes think that the First Amendment only applies to speech they agree with.

@brainbomb

um... she can say that someone doesn't believe in american values while abusing them at the same time.

also, she didn't say he HAD to be deported. she just WISHED he were deported. that's her right as well

Kaepernick: "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder"



Tomi Lahren: "Welcome back. Oh Colin Kaepernick, I’ve got some final thoughts for you, bud.

See, our buddy Colin decided not to stand for the National Anthem because well this – he will not stand to show pride in a flag or a country that oppresses black people. For him it’s bigger than football, he would be selfish to look the other way.

After all according to Kaepernick there are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder. So let me go ahead and eviscerate this mouth diarrhea for you sentence by sentence here we go.

(((((Colin, I support the First Amendment, I support your right to free will of speech and expression, go for it bud. It’s this country, the country that you have so much disdain for that allows you the right to speak your mind. It protects your right to be a whiny indulgent attention-seeking crybaby. It also protects my right to shred you for it))))."

She then contradicted that by saying:
"And Colin, if this country disgusts you so much; leave. I guarantee there are thousands and thousands of people around the world that would gladly take your spot. "

Saying you support someones rights does not inlude telling them they should leave. Thats actually suppressing their rights through bullying.

Silencing someones freedom of speech/right to protest is antithetical to the notion of freedom. It encourages a country full of people who are blind loyalists. Im pretty sure her entire speech actually just encourages more hatred against these people who are very peacefully protesting and doing LITERALLY nothing illegal

@brainbomb

1. no, being a meanie is not suppressing someone's rights. that is patently false. i can tell someone that it's better to leave and still recognize their rights as an american not to.


2. if Kapernick truly believes that the USA is so racist that the flag itself stands for white supremacy, then why not go to another country you find more fitting? maybe it's because he's making millions of dollars off of millions of americans watching him play football... millions of whom are white... and whose demand for football has made him a millionaire.

"Silencing someones freedom of speech/right to protest is antithetical to the notion of freedom."

OH COME ON

Ben Shapiro had to pay TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS just to speak at Berkley because antifa were prepped and ready to riot, and we have a CONSTANT wave of articles attacking free speech, saying it doesn't cover hateful rhetoric (sorry folks, but it does. reality is reality)

and YOU. you are concerned about a video of some woman talking about how another person is acting stupid?

THAT IS SILENCING?

please...

and i disagree with Kapernick's protest. i do... he has the RIGHT to do it, but i'm still allowed to hold a different opinion in this country. and i'm allowed to call someone else's opinion stupid.

that's all legal

When I go to sporting events I stand for the anthem but its pretty lame. I dpnt put my hand on my chest or take my hat off. Who gives a shit its literally a peice of cloth made by poor chinese laborers. It holds little to no significant valie to me as were a psycho war mongering country that bombs thousands of people. Yawn.

What am I supposed to be proud of? I hear people say if you dont love your country then leave. The real answer is if you dont love your country make it better. If you cant make it better make YOU better. I would much rather live in the UK where my family came from. Nebraska is okay, its a bunch of hicks who only know football and Jesus but theyre not hate filled.
I dont think America is in even the top 50 best countries to live. Unless yer super rich.

Yanik, saying you SUPPORT SOMEONES RIGHTS - then saying they should leave the country is not SUPPORTING THEIR RIGHTS.

If I tell you I like your shirt.
Then say take it off its ugly on you.

I either am saying you are ugly
Or the shirt is ugly
But regardless of how I feel about the shirt I am encouraging you not to have it
(The shirt is your first amendment rights) fyi

If you say you support a protestors rights to STAY HERE PROTESTING - WHICH IS THEIR FUCKIN RIGHT
You cant also say they should leave America.

@brainbomb

except no, America's poor are not worse off than europe's poor.

https://mises.org/blog/if-sweden-and-germany-became-us-states-they-would-be-among-poorest-states

all data sourced comes from the OECD

http://stats.oecd.org/Index.aspx?DataSetCode=IDD


but in any case, if you really don't care about the american flag then don't stand for it. america's got a long history, we've seen segregation under that flag, and we've also seen 400,000 die in WWII for it as well. but at the very least you could stand for the flag showing that you're willing to work for a better country.

remember that? people working to make the country a better place, a fairly bipartisan goal: we all want to do what's best, we only differ in how we think we should go about it.

well, nowadays it's political, because OF COURSE it is. the american flag is no longer something to stand together and say, let's make progress tomorrow, instead it's a tool, something to either respect of piss on depending on whether or not you're happy with policy or just society.

it's your right to be a part of a movement aimed at tearing down any and all social fabric americans have in common, but it's my right to call you an asshole for doing that.

I support the right your taco truck business has to sell tacos.
But if you dont have sour cream

You shiuld be banished to the shadow realm