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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
18 Dec 17 UTC
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Please Help
Hi Everyone, I need some help to do some testing of our new forum which will hopefully be completed shortly (thanks Kestas). If you have a minute to spare this evening or tomorrow please look inside for quick instructions on how to help out. Thanks!!!
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Chance (300 D)
18 Dec 17 UTC
Diplomacy points
Am I supposed to have at least 100 Diplomacy points (including those invested in games) at any given time?
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
17 Dec 17 UTC
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Mod Team Announcement
See inside for details
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brainbomb (290 D)
17 Dec 17 UTC
On the first day of webdipmas...
The mod team gave to me......(add your own but include my original two plz)...
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jason4747 (100 D)
18 Dec 17 UTC
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Diplomacy Games podcast #24 is out.
Pretty funny.....
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President Eden (2750 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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Is the premise "all men are created equal" necessary for a Western republic?
See above. I have thoughts on this but will save them for a little while later.

Please be mindful of the additional etiquette requests I am making in the next post.
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Ogion (3882 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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I would just like to say thank you
To the mods, Kestas, Zultar, all you fine people (yes, ebmvene Capt Brad and ND!) for making this a great and vibrant community
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
13 Dec 17 UTC
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Alleged Child Molester Loses Election
https://apnews.com/d54394e7782a448e92a53e67f3913a88?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP
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leon1122 (190 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
"believe in communism"

"overthrowing corporations and breaking them all up"
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
16 Dec 17 UTC
Supreme Court ruling. No ruling has ever been handed down frivilously or lightly

So there is no problem with citizens united either?
brainbomb (290 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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Of course not. The second Amendment applied to colonial militias fighting an insurgent army. The equipment it related too were muskets with bayonnetts and black powder rifles. Technology has far surpassed the intended language of the 2nd Amendment. Furthermore gun banning globally has worked. Its actually worked in numerous places. We just cater to the gun lobby because they fund lots of conservative campaigns.
brainbomb (290 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
Im not sure Brad. Theres been some decisions I dont personally understand. I think the Supreme Court is a hell of a lot more qualified to attempt interpreting complex nuamces of law than we are. Its also a pretty bi-partisan group unlike the rest of government.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
16 Dec 17 UTC
overthrowing corporations. Like the one that runs the hospital you work for brain. Just have the barefoot country doctors then?
brainbomb (290 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
My hospital is privately owned and operated.
brainbomb (290 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
Good try there desperate ol captain
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
16 Dec 17 UTC
pretty bi-partisan group unlike the rest of government.

So no conservative liberal problem for you brain?
leon1122 (190 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
A primitive machine gun already existed at the time of the nation's founding. I'm sure the founders in their great wisdom could have imagined further advances in the future.

https://borepatch.blogspot.com/2010/05/18th-century-machine-gun.html
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
16 Dec 17 UTC
The privately owned hospital is a corporation brain.
brainbomb (290 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
Get over yourself. Nobody other than the Army had those. They werent selling that shit to people.
brainbomb (290 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
Brad do you know what a corporation is...
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
16 Dec 17 UTC
In fact brain I understand exactly what a corporation is. I have an MBA and taught economics and had a small business.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
16 Dec 17 UTC
It serves as a protection of assets and focuses liability with a fictitious personhood to prevent individuals from being sued.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
16 Dec 17 UTC
No hospital could operate without the protection of a corporation. Most physicians are corporations too.
Shirk, I'm afraid I can't let you live up to that namesake. :)

If you aren't willing to argue that I, personally, want to subjugate and control women through a pro-life position, then you cannot just sidestep the pro-life argument that I made, which you are not willing to argue comes from a mindset of wanting to control and subjugate women.


Brain: I need a little more specificity. I'm assuming you mean Trump, to which my response is twofold:
1. Accusations of sexual misconduct, while they are in pressing need of resolution, are not per se disqualifying for my vote;
2. I am not convinced the accusations levied against Trump are true.

I was 10 months old, and 4 years 10 months old, respectively, when Clinton was up for election. I sincerely have no idea how any misconduct allegations would affect my willingness to vote for him. (I think Brad asked this)
President Eden (2750 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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Ooh second amendment, pick me!

I have a lot of trouble with the "technology obsoletes this" angle on the 2nd, because I don't think the Bill of Rights was written to be conditional to the technological framework of the late 18th century. I get the argument that no civilian rebellion would ever overthrow the US govt because it's true. But that was arguably true from the outset. Hell, the US rebels themselves didn't actually "win" the Revolutionary War in the conventional sense of decisively defeating the British Army, they just made it not worth Britain's time to put them down. That's what the 2nd Amendment really does -- the US Army would eventually win, probably, in a conventional sense, but the cost would be so obscene that the threat of such a war checks against the most egregious excesses. It doesn't stop an authoritarian takeover so much as greatly limit the ways in which one could arise.
Durga (3609 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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Maybe if we JAILED women who had miscarriages they would rethink their life choices!
I like the way you think, Demon.
JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
Peak. Forum.
leon1122 (190 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
James, you might want to check out my replies to you on the previous page.
Durga (3609 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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Physicians are corporations. Checkmate Marxists. Where is your God now?
President Eden (2750 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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Why even bother engaging when you just get ignored if you present your arguments coherently enough that they're not easily straw manned into oblivion.
Durga (3609 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
PE is trIgGErED
Octavious (2802 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
PE is kicking some serious arse. He hasn't done the voice of reason thing this well in ages.
brainbomb (290 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
Wait Eden are you denying the authenticity of allegations of sexual misconduct levied vs trump?

Under what presumption would you think women would falsely claim he acted inappropriately?
brainbomb (290 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
How is PE doing anything other than making himself look like a huge misogynist douche here?
Octavious (2802 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
...I get the impression that this is an honest conclusion, yet I haven't the foggiest idea how you managed to reach it.
JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
@leon

"My response:

1. That's not at all what you said. You said, and I quote, "keeping in mind that every confirmed voter of the accusers I've seen have been Trump supporters (takes away the 'plant' story)". I'm pretty sure that Beverly Nelson is not every accuser, and I've already proven that at least one of the accusers is an active Democrat. Beverly has, moreover, the least credible story, so she doesn't even really count."

and I think you're overestimating the likelihood of a plant. project veritas already got embarrassed by washpo, and PV is one of the best in the business with this kind of sting work. and Nelson isn't the only trump support, and also I don't think her account is the least credible.



"3.The point is that she never mentioned that adding anything until she got exposed. It's pretty likely that she just made up the story to cover up her lies. As for he family, it's pretty plausible that they're just going along with it to save their daughter from national humiliation."

all she said she added was the fact the slight sentence that he became assistant DA, after the fact. the rest of the message, as the handwriting analysis I linked earlier, matches him.

Moore said he NEVER met her: this is by multiple witnesses and the likely veracity of the yearbook: false. I understand, this isn't even enough to go to court with, but it's damn suspicious that he's not even budging on the fact that he met her.




"4. We live in the information age. It's pretty easy to get a hold on some document containing Moore's signature and forging it onto a new document."

ok. now I KNOW you didn't read the handwriting analysis.

https://www.scribd.com/document/366939922/Handwriting-Analyses-Report-Dec-6-2017?secret_password=2Poj4YrvvPpsrLqPklFu#from_embed

even if you find a scanner copy of the signature online, you cannot get the pressure patterns from a scanned copy: which the report meanwhile, showed were consistent with hard copies. answer me THAT


but even more... why would a TRUMP VOTER do that? if you really are just looking for the spotlight, shouldn't your need for attention, be attention from the people you revere? a false story against Doug jones would be more likely.




"5. You asked for a motive. I provided one. Can I prove it? No, I can't, but it at least proves the possibility that Moore did not in fact molest these (at the time) teenage girls."

I don't think there's enough to go to court here on, I'll openly admit that. but it's also been by the way Roy Moore at several times, with multiple witnesses coming out against him, has had falsehoods in his story. saying he never spoke to one of the girls when one mom clearly remembered he did, saying he never met another when there are witnesses and a signature that said he did, SO many things that aren't by themselves proof of further malicious actions, but the fact that he denies even those GROUND facts is suspicious. if he said "yeah I knew all of these girls, but I never raped them" then there'd be room to maneuver, but the fact he's outright denying ever meeting them... it's suspicious. why lie about THAT? the conclusion I'm coming to is that there's further truth to these claims and he's trying to cut it all off.



"6. I believe the Hollywood scandals, not because of the evidence, but because the perpetrators have admitted to their wrongdoing. If Weinstein were to have vehemently denied all allegations, I would give him the benefit of the doubt as well."

the predators have "all" admitted their wrongdoing. well with spacey and Weinstein I agree, but from what I can see (perhaps I'm wrong on this, I find it hard to be shocked by HOLLYWOOD being full of scumbags) many aren't admitting to it.

but this is a secondary point though, and I suppose I'll concede it in order not to get sidetracked
JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
and "cover up her lies"???

what lies? she never said she didn't write in a note that he became DA after the fact? she never lied about a damn thing with regards to that. the actual inscription matches him, the note beneath that which said he had become DA she openly admitted she had written afterwards when she found out how far he'd gone.

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Durga (3609 D)
14 Nov 17 UTC
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webDiplomacy Mentor-Apprentice Program
See below
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AtomicOrangutan (75 D)
17 Dec 17 UTC
2 new live and fast games
Created two live games: One Ancient Mediterranean, and One is Germany vs. Italy live

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=212868
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GeneralKul (100 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
dont know where to ask, can you use another player fleet without their approval
so say an opposing player is gonna move an army from london to brest and have a fleet in the english canal. can i use the same fleet to move my army from pic to wales without their approval?
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AtomicOrangutan (75 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
New fast Classic game !
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=212852

Here's the new game
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AtomicOrangutan (75 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
New Fast paced classic mode game
Here is the new game! Can't find the usual new game forum page, but the game ID is http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=212845
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AtomicOrangutan (75 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
New game for the fast Mediterranean
Here's a fast game with Ancient Medi. http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=212846

Idk where to post the games other than creating a new thread.
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TrPrado (461 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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BREAKING
Austria has broken ranks, leaving precisely 3 left in the peace:

gameID=166960
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Thaneofwhiterun (1516 D)
12 Dec 17 UTC
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Underrepresented minority groups.
I think that when people have been singing the praises of both vanilla and strawberry milkshakes, the truly greatest milkshakes have fallen to the wayside. Chocolate-Peanut butter shakes are the best and you all need to see the error of your ways.
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dank57 (70 D)
15 Dec 17 UTC
Anyone available to cancel a game?
I don't know the protocol or how often this happens, but the site crashed, and now Silent Partners-3 is back up, some countries' moves processed and others didn't. I watch all the games in this series (I have set up the games). I hope we're not expected to continue under conditions like these, but i'm open to however people usually handle this.
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CoachShack (223 D)
15 Dec 17 UTC
Might be a stupid question, but I can't remember
When a country that has gone into civil disorder is taken over by a new player in anon mode, is there a global message telling the rest of the group that the country has a new owner?
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fourofswords (415 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
joinable games
Why are there games under "joinable" that cannot be joined? Right now there are many.
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damian (675 D)
09 Dec 17 UTC
The Ghug Question
Webdip please help us settle an argument, as per his request.
Ghug wants to know if he's a bad bitch or a basic bitch.
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
16 Dec 17 UTC
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WebDiplomacy github accepting pull requests again
Hello developers! Feel like some Christmas hobby time? The webdiplomacy master branch on github is now in sync with the server again, and so it's very easy for us to push changes to the site. Pull requests welcome!
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Jamiet99uk (898 D)
13 Dec 17 UTC
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(Un)Official webDip Xmas Holiday Party!
webDip members and ex-moderators in good standing are invited to the first annual webDip Xmas Party. See below for the rules.
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
16 Dec 17 UTC
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Loving the mobile site!
Job well done team!
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Literary Pugilist (291 D)
13 Dec 17 UTC
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Resulting Fallacy
This article is about decision making in poker, but I think it equally applies to Diplomacy and well lots of other things too. I think a lot of players, including myself, fall into this trap of believing everything that works was a good decision and everything that doesn't was a bad one.

http://nautil.us/issue/55/trust/the-resulting-fallacy-is-ruining-your-decisions
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Foxcastle (100 D)
14 Dec 17 UTC
Looking for anonymous opponent in canceled FvA Live-117 Game
We were going to set up a practice game, but got lost when we canceled...
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Nikola Maric Eto (24945 D)
10 Dec 17 UTC
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Five years on WebDiplomacy
Cheers to you, souls! :)))
I'm high and drunk. Which is good.
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dank57 (70 D)
13 Dec 17 UTC
Brainstorming on getting more no-press live classic games
Arg! We had 6 for a no-press (i.e. no-chat) live game tonight, no cigar. And there haven't been a lot of no-press Many years ago, my FTF Dip crew had a similar problem ... some wanted and had time for no-press, others didn't, so we couldn't get 7 ... and we came up with a neat solution, which I'll share in a minute. But first ... anyone have advice on how we drum up support for a live no-press game?
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brainbomb (290 D)
13 Dec 17 UTC
ANTIFA recruitment drive
Lets get signuos going for the Webdip Antifa chapter. Given the rules we should stress that our chapter will be a non-violent one. Our focus will be bringing rainbow colored punch to racist rallies and encouraging patient nonviolent discourse about the dangers of facism. Sign up here!
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
09 Dec 17 UTC
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Non Rhyming thread
One word only and it can't rhyme with any previuos word.
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SkiingCougar (1682 D)
09 Dec 17 UTC
My favorite user on webdip
Yoyoyozo is a fantastic member. He's super kind and really good at Diplomacy. Who is your favorite user on this site?
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