So when does MIV begin?

You could either forbid everyone from revealing their role or don't, but that takes away the ability to claim when you're threatened. Not a big deal, but regardless, you can't just pin the SK down while letting doctor and cop and whatever other roles you guys add reveal themselves.

Whenever you have 3 teams and rational players, it's going to become a 2 v 1 at some point- it's unavoidable. I have no problem with what PE did, but I do agree that the role is not a great one.

"So when does MIV begin?"

Today? Vash?

Damn, y'all had no faith in me in the God thread.

Well, it was really interesting reading that thread, YJ. Funny that you were laughing at how I was overthinking. You're absolutely right -- I have to analyze things down to the ground, and few things are obvious once you start seriously considering all the ways an argument could be wrong.

Great that the better argument worked here, though.

I was reasonably sure you would not ultimately believe me, but I still had to stack the deck in my favor and scratch out every inch of advantage I could.

Thanks ghug and Semck for winning us that game. Since there was a whole bunch of claims for who got PE to confess, and WD lynched and whatnot, can I claim PJ's downfall?? I think that if I was not on vacation then I may have been able to defend myself better and make the vote between YJ and I a lot closer (it was already really close). I did play very reserved in this game though, and dont blame any of you for voting me out. YJ was very sneaky, and had me fooled this whole time.

I always thought you were one of the clearest and most useful townies, Squigs, and I was really annoyed by your bw. I joined it only because I had to be gone and I didn't want any chance of a tie.

Can someone explain to me what made me look like scum? I have no understanding of any of this. Still.

Bo, I had already suspected Dr. O, and then once you kind of gave up the ghost, I thought your actions around PJM's death were incredibly scummy, talking about being "outted by both sides."

@bo I just took advantage of your complete lack of apparent interest in actually contributing, and paired it with the Dr. O reads we all had earlier. You were never going to outlast me unless you started to add serious contributions from the start.

I didn't even have to try to get you lynched, everybody else had already voted to before I even checked in.

In other news, I just had a very talented undergrad and a successful grad student both write more for me over the past two days than they probably wrote for their professors all term long.

Webdip is a wonderful place.

Now tell the truth, YJ: if I mislynched, you were going to link that Myst video back, weren't you?

Mafia 4 will happen whenever it happens, I think Vash is gonna GM jt

I was hoping that I would have found occasion to use my "fake doc-claim" that I was thinking about (admittedly terrible idea) because after the real doc flipped, PE would still need lynching, and I could then spend the next two full game days spamming the thread with excerpts from my manuscripts and ridiculing everything anybody said.

It would have been glorious.

"Now tell the truth, YJ: if I mislynched, you were going to link that Myst video back, weren't you?"

No, but I had meant to link this: thanks for reminding me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDK_Wr5FqEQ

were you like me and thought that sirrus was by far the awesomest character in that game? dude was cunning as all hell.

He was. It's been awhile, so I don't remember for sure, but I do think that was my sense. I did end the game right, though.

FWIW, by the way, I don't consider your actual "scumslip" that serious. It registered slightly on my near-subconscious at the time, and I just made the obvious interpretation that you were talking IF I were chosen, and/or using generalized you.

"In other news, I just had a very talented undergrad and a successful grad student both write more for me over the past two days than they probably wrote for their professors all term long."

I have a 20 page Google Doc of posts I prewrote over the course of the game, and that's not even including most of the final day.

As tribute for my solid play, I demand that anybody who reads this message plays this video, with the volume cranked up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XccUMOQ978

Hey, to put a positive note on my mafia loss, I just got an email scheduling an interview for a job as an MRI pulse sequence developer with Samsung! Wish me luck!

Good luck, scum!

I think you have to inform any potential employer that you were a ruthless murderer at one point, even if it was two hundred years ago and you've since been caught and killed. Good luck though.

I tried to bury that detail in my curriculum vitae, but I guess if he looks hard enough he'll see it.

I was one (admittedly very unlikely) mislynch away from taking numerical control of the game. I was also a very likely D2 lynch. I got far closer to my wincon by claiming -- why would we ban a legitimate tactic?

"I was hoping that I would have found occasion to use my "fake doc-claim" that I was thinking about (admittedly terrible idea) because after the real doc flipped, PE would still need lynching, and I could then spend the next two full game days spamming the thread with excerpts from my manuscripts and ridiculing everything anybody said."

I wish this would've happened lmao

By the way, I for one do support ghug for town MVP. I have a more direct perspective than most on it, but his posts in the closing days were superb, and essentially left no intellectual room for me to vote for him, even though that was my predisposition.

I think he was also a very strong player in the early game -- Maniac and uclabb were too. Squigs was a really useful player to the town, in my opinion, but maybe not quite bold enough with his reads to prevent what happened from him and assure the success of his points of view. Still, I think he's the single person most responsible for the attention PJM received.

A closing note on ghug -- there would of course not have been sufficient material for those posts if he had not played the part of such a thoroughgoing townie all game long. He was able to defend his record because it was an almost perfect record.