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ssorenn (0 D X)
27 Jun 14 UTC
who wants to game?
WTA,ANON,24 hour phases, and FULL PRESS

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Yellowjacket (835 D (B))
27 Jun 14 UTC
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On nationalism and immigration
Seems legit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsPDT5qHtZ4
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Kallen (1169 D)
26 Jun 14 UTC
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Coastal Movement
Normally, when two units make a move to each other's territories, it causes a bounce (Rhur moves to Munich while Munich moves to Rhur). However, would coasts be treated as different territories for fleets? For example, could a fleet in Spain (nc) move to MAO while another fleet in MAO moved to Spain (sc)? Same with Bulgarian coasts and Constantinople. Thanks in advance!
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mapleleaf (0 D X)
25 May 14 UTC
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Elliot Rodger shoots a whole bunch of students.
Thank God they were all americans. 6 of them died. Hee hee. U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!
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Putin33 (111 D)
27 Jun 14 UTC
You simply dismiss all the evidence that doesn't conform to your view and cite one chapter of one book. I mean the anti-federalists were commonly called "democrats" by the pro-constitution forces, which reveals all you really need to know about how the latter felt about popular government. I gave you ample sources but it's incredibly typical of you to ignore what is inconvenient. Most of those sources are contemporary work on the subject. It's a subject that has been exhaustively studied and very little of it conforms to your view. Yours is the revisionist view. The primary source records show very clearly the motivation behind wanting a "strong national government". They didn't just want it for its own sake.

It wasn't just the convention that wasn't democratic. The ratification wasn't democratic. Even hagiographic defenders of the founders admit that a shady and underhanded process was undertaken to make sure the document was ratified.

The federalists /pro-constitution forces most certainly did not want to increase popular participation. Read the federalist arguments. They were entirely predicated on the folly of direct participation. Fisher Ames makes that clear when he says that democracy is a volcano which contains the fiery seeds of its own destruction. Madison was one of the most forceful opponents of popular participation. Read Federalist No. 10 and No. 63. You simply dismiss this as "anti-majoritarianism". No. He criticizes popular participation. Look carefully at what Madison says about the problem with the House of Lords. He claimed that even the House of Lords was vulnerable to the populism ("encroachments") of the House of Commons, so therefore we have nothing to fear from a Senate not elected by the people. The entirety of Federalist No. 63 is a warning of the 'defects' of popular control of government.

"To a people as little blinded by prejudice or corrupted by flattery as those whom I address, I shall not scruple to add, that such an institution may be sometimes necessary as a defense to the people against their own temporary errors and delusions. As the cool and deliberate sense of the community ought, in all governments, and actually will, in all free governments, ultimately prevail over the views of its rulers; so there are particular moments in public affairs when the people, stimulated by some irregular passion, or some illicit advantage, or misled by the artful misrepresentations of interested men, may call for measures which they themselves will afterwards be the most ready to lament and condemn. In these critical moments, how salutary will be the interference of some temperate and respectable body of citizens, in order to check the misguided career, and to suspend the blow meditated by the people against themselves, until reason, justice, and truth can regain their authority over the public mind? What bitter anguish would not the people of Athens have often escaped if their government had contained so provident a safeguard against the tyranny of their own passions? Popular liberty might then have escaped the indelible reproach of decreeing to the same citizens the hemlock on one day and statues on the next."

Suffice to say, your cursory and unspecific statements about how the constitution supposedly expanded popular participation doesn't have a leg to stand on. Neither by the secondary literature not by the primary sources themselves.


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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
The Favorite Author Tournament: THE FINAL FOUR!
OK, sorry for the delay...and the continued delay--we'll start Midnight tonight. ORWELL! DICKENS! POE! TOLKIEN! Who will advance?

And a bonus question, just for schnicks and giggles--what's the first book you read after high school (or, if it was a while ago, the earliest book you can remember reading after high school?) Just curious to see what we get.
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Kallen (1169 D)
27 Jun 14 UTC
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America Hate Thread
Putin, mapleleaf, and anybody else who feels the need to express disdain about the US, please feel free to share your feels in here. Everyone else, don't click open and have one less thing to piss you off =]
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
27 Jun 14 UTC
You can put lip-stick on Ann Poulter but ........
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/26/ann_coulter_no_american_whose_great_grandfather_was_born_here_is_watching_soccer/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=socialflow
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Dunecat (5899 D)
27 Jun 14 UTC
Starting a new game, my friends. It's been a minute.
New game, open to all. Classic map, 500 D buy-in, winner takes all.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=143927
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ILN (100 D)
27 Jun 14 UTC
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'Lazy Greeks' aren't so lazy after all
http://euobserver.com/social/124761#.U6wWJN4c02x.facebook

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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Jun 14 UTC
Worst Non-Sitcom TV Show You've Ever Watched? (4 Episodes Minimum)
Friends were raving about this Netflix show, "Orange is the New Black." Watched. ..It's awful. Wall to wall. The main lead (not the actress herself, she seems to be trying, at least) is like the adult equivalent of Bella Swann meets Every Yuppie Character Ever. Every character's a stereotype. Every guy is a perv, sex-crazed ass, douche, OR just has no life whatsoever. The writing is as bad as I've seen...and yet, this won awards? xD So, worst shows?
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
25 Jun 14 UTC
Is it just me or .....
..... is there a lot of death and destruction going on at the minute.
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ssorenn (0 D X)
26 Jun 14 UTC
JMO = King Mod
We all want to thank JMO for his service to the site.

No crying from the Mods!!!!!!!!!
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glisbao (185 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
Populism and Democracy
I've heard in here that populism is the plague that affects democracy (the topic praising appeasement). I would like people to elaborate on the subject - how does populism undermine the democratic principles, and what can we learn about this in history?
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ArmaGGedon (100 D)
26 Jun 14 UTC
live game
hi, someone to anime live game :P
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NigeeBaby (100 D (G))
26 Jun 14 UTC
The link between having a large penis and self-confidence
Here is something you guys should all know something about, please share your thoughts if you've got the balls to do so :-)
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peterwiggin (15279 D Mod (S))
25 Jun 14 UTC
Man walks into McDonald's with knife in back
http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-mcdonalds-knife-back-20140625-story.html
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rayanking (0 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
join fast victory 4 $$$
it's a great and a live game, it cost only 10 D and in classic map. So let the game start.:)
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jmo1121109 (3812 D Mod)
18 Jun 14 UTC
Many open games
Today's number is 38. I suggest everyone check out some of the open games. Post here with any games you take over for the next 48 hours and you'll get reimbursed for them. PM me for anonymous games. Games with more then 1 banned cheater will probably be cancelled so don't join them.
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Putin33 (111 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
Appeasement: unfairly maligned strategy?
I've been reading quite a bit about British & French foreign policy at the turn of the century, and it seems like appeasement (reduction of tensions through concessions) has gotten an unnecessarily bad reputation.
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Tolstoy (1958 D)
22 Jun 14 UTC
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Can atheists believe in free will?
If our consciousness is simply a product of the mushy 3-dimensional circuit board we call a brain, governed entirely by the fixed and unchanging laws of physics and chemistry, is there any kind of free will? Or are all our decisions in life predetermined, like a computer program running through its code, simply responding to various inputs?
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
Taking over CDs
I have recently taken over 2 positions in games where players left. I am wondering why my profile says I haven't taken over CD's at all.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
20 Jun 14 UTC
Again--This is NOT a Christian Country...
http://news.yahoo.com/republicans-obama-must-defend-christian-values-192212780--election.html Christians live here--AND Jews, AND Muslims, AND Buddhists and Hindus and Atheists (fastest growing group!) AND dozens of others (including, hey, all those Native American tribes and religions...many of which were criminalized in part until the 1970s)...WHY? Why must Obama defend the values of a specific sect, when the Constitution clearly is anti-favoritism in terms of religion?
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Birchford (167 D)
25 Jun 14 UTC
Parameter 'fromTerrID' set to invalid value '32'
Hello, has anyone encountered this error before, and if so do you have a fix for it? Thanks for your help.
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dr. octagonapus (210 D)
24 Jun 14 UTC
Commenting on ongoing gunboat games
I realise of course that you are not allowed to circumvent the no talking rule, like press via email or pm or f2f talking etc. but why is discussing the board in general disallowed? I get that I should not say who I am in the game but if someone is to talk about the board unbiased and without revealing who they are would this be acceptable?
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ssorenn (0 D X)
09 Jun 14 UTC
Two team members per country game?
Would anyone be interested in creating a game, that each of the 7 clasic countries were comprised of two team members consulting together. I understand that only one can actually be listed in the game itself, but maybe create a side pot for the second team members that would pay out equally at end of game
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KingCyrus (511 D)
24 Jun 14 UTC
Boys State
Anyone familiar with this program?
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Buzzle (1531 D)
23 Jun 14 UTC
multi-players
What if you have strong suspicions that someone is multi-playing in a game? Who do you contact to check into it?
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fulhamish (4134 D)
24 Jun 14 UTC
US constitution
I readily admit to starting from a low base on this one, but.....
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SYnapse (0 D X)
24 Jun 14 UTC
Jihadists in Syria
Right now David Cameron is going on about the "threat" from Jihadists leaving the UK to go fight in Iraq and Syria.
Am I missing something? Why are Jihadists fighting in Syria a threat here? To me, it seems no more different than Orwell fighting in Spain.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Jun 14 UTC
Putin on Putin: An Open Invitation to Putin33 on the Russia/Ukraine/Syria Crisis
Welcome BACK, Putin33...my oh my, how the world of international politics has exploded since you last graced us with your presence...are you ready to decry your namesake for the scourge of the world that he is? Most assuredly not, but let this be an open letter and open invitation for you to give YOUR take on the whole of the crisis--and your namesake in particular--as so many have been wondering if you'd capitulate to common sense and call him out for the thug Big Bad Vlad is.
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