@balduran, I agree that you shouldn't bother making connections and thinking a bunch on people that are dead, UNLESS those people are Snowy or Ezio. Even then don't spend too much time, but if something catches your eye make sure you bring it up

@Ike - Hard question, the first part is easier, I think one of CB or ND has to be scum, so I would choose them. The second part is harder, but if it was right now, I would lynch CB, but I intend to do some more reading tomorrow.

Okay I would say i think the wagons should be myself and ND. If it came to a tie I’d vote ND.

I think we gain information based on where people’s votes end up between me and ND.

@Ike I do not think I will finish reading up by EoD, but I plan to use the information you guys are throwing around here, plus my own impressions from how far I do get to vote. As of right now, to give you an idea of where I stand, I'm of a mind to ##vote ND

@CB, lets assume ND flips scum, who do you think rounds out the team? If ND flips town, who are the most likely 2 scum?
@RD same questions

Also, I have looked ahead to see who's scum, and I am keeping stuff in mind with regards to Snowy/Ezio.

The information I've gotten from them (mostly snowy) hasn't been too much. He makes some lowkey attempts to pocket demon (but she's hardly been around so far), he insinuates that ND is scum, but never follows up with a vote, and I'm not quite sure what to make of that. He also threw some shade at Ike, which makes me feel a little bit more secure in my townread there

Last scum is probably RD or Uber. If I had to bet, Uber.

I actually agree with ND in regards to the last scum. However I think I’d put my guess more on Rd, will have to see what happens this time around.

If ND flips scum then it would be between Rd and Uber.
If he flips town then it’s probably both.

Some observations from D2:
Ezio suggests maniac, uber, and guak are all scum, pointing out uber and mf are lurking and thus scummy, which could be taken as him going for low-hanging lurker targets (though he votes for both guak and later MF, but never ends up voting uber).

Also, RD has a big post where he argues (in response to Ike) that D1 was all town, but only cites getting town vibes from ghug. Could this be trying to give Ezio space while not explicitly saying he townreads? I'm not sure just yet, but something to keep in mind.

Just finished D2, and am almost halfway caught up (page-wise). I'm growingly disturbed by ubercacher's lack of presence, and ND lurked quite a bit as well, but uber had essentially NO content whatsoever. Hopefully this changes in the next few phases between then and now.

In other news, my read of Ike is unchanged, though CB seemed less directed and more confused this phase, but not in a way that struck me as particularly scummy. RD's play early in the phase is somewhat suspect (see my above post), but I find him somewhat less scummy then (in particular his rather vocal townread of ezio seems like a riskier move than scum would make, particularly since no one was pressing him for his opinion on ezio at the time and ezio had a real possibility of being lynched for a while)

Oh, and not to forget about peter! He's been a little inactive, but otherwise seems to resemble his town self, with little of his tunnelling scuminess (though he tunnels as town sometimes, too) and a bit more awareness and interaction with the larger game. (to be clear, I realize he sits on ezio for most of the day, but when that's no longer a viable wagon, he actually does shift, and while it's a bit too late to be anything more than hedging against the tie, I don't know peter to be one to try for wild jumps to get town cred)

If ND flip scum, I think the last one is between Uber and Ike. If ND is town I think it's CB and uber.

《《 Official Vote Count 7.0 》》
ND (5) CommanderByron, RagingIke297, peterlund, ubercacher16, Balduran
CommanderByron (2) ND, rdrivera2005

18.5 hours remain

《《 ND is scheduled to be eaten 》》

Here I’ll make this interesting
##Vote CommanderByron

Even though I am going to vote ND we do not benefit from not talking. I for one have a more solid thought on scum between uber and Rd. But want to see how they end their votes this day. Is there a chance ragingike is just that good? Has anyone played with him to know his meta?? Oztra was subbed. Seems strange for scum to drop out this late, or is there precedent?? Peter comes off town and I’ve heard from a few people this is his town meta. Come on guys let’s talk. Let’s say whatever is on our minds regardless of if it incriminates ourselves because right now those of us who are willing to take the risk of self incrimination for the benefit of the rown will be the ones to win this. We should see through scum arguments as they’ll be weaker. So scum can either work hard to push their vote or not speak. Meaning we can flush em out.

I'm still not caught up, but from what I understand Ike used to play here, but it was a long time ago

Maybe Peterlund or ND remember then? I guess we could go diving through old games, but idk if he'd have the same metas after a long break

If you're still around though, CB, could you tell me what's made you change your mind on Peter? I just got to a point where you're rather convinced he's scum with Ezio (and RD). What's made you change your mind?

oh rip repeated that last sentence, sorry

I think Ike could be playing a Tom on us, he is widely town read but his voting record is pretty bad and he didn't get involved in catching both Ezio and Snowy. I think Peter's is town, I dunt believe him and Ezio bussed each other that way. Oztra is harder to evaluate, but the no-lynch and the Snowy vote make me believe he is town. So I have four suspects to find two scum.

@CB - What do you expect to get voting yourself?

@RD, I agree that it's kinda strange that no one scum reads me, but that's not something I'm doing or have influence over. That's everyone else looking at what I'm doing and seeing that I have been pushing my scum reads and getting everyone to talk. I've been wrong every day so far, but sometimes that happens, I'm trying my best

@rdrivera- who knows what I expect. Maybe it’s just symbolic of me wanting more conversation and this make the wagons both legitimate.

@balduran- peters response to my pressuring him was solid, and as we played on pushing other wagons he cane off more and more town.

@CB, in my mind that doesn't give your wagon any more legitimacy, you will switch back because of self preservation in the end. However, if I ##vote CB that will give it more legitimacy. So I will do so to help you create conversation

We are still lynching ND (CB have to switch back). As my both town reads are voting ND this doesn't bother me much.
But I think everybody should explain his vote and his reads.

@RD since youre here, do you think it's good that we have 2 wagons or should we have 3?

My two top scum reads are ND and uber. In case anyone of those two would flip town I would rethink CB, rdriv, Ike and Bald in this order.

Tomorrow Wednesday before an 8-9 hour work day, I am going to play ice-hockey and for this I need to wake up at 5 am CET, which only is 5 hours after deadline. So I will/should really miss the deadline this evening in order to be able to handle tomorrow's ordeals in some kind of decent fashion. Sorry for my bad planning!
But currently, I am here for some 2 hours more...

@Bald. I checked the logs. It seems that I played M26 with Ike and we were both town, but I cannot say that I have much memories from that game. It was long ago. Day 1 ended at 2017-01-05. I would guess Ike did nothing really remarkable in that game since I do not remember him from there...

@Ike - I think at this point 2 is enough, 3 will make easier for people to not get involved. But to be honest, the engagement level is pretty low from everybody, including me.

《《 Official Vote Count 7.1 》》

CommanderByron: (4) ND, rdrivera2005, CommanderByron, RagingIke297
ND: (3) peterlund, ubercacher16, Balduran


3.5 hours remain

《《 CommanderByron is scheduled to be eaten 》》

I would like to hear from Uber, why he is he voting ND and who are his townreads and who is the other scum?