I said I wasn't really gonna be around. Why was acknowledging that I hadn't read problematic?

You forgot that your vote on Ezio was actually important, Uber. And that I expect you to be stupid. :)

Ok.

1. Ghug hates him much more then me.

2. I use logic, sometimes.

3. You asked me a question.

4. He was scum in the Vdip game, I was town.

5. I'm not a clown.

6. My vote for Ezio was actually important.

7. Ghug expects me to be stupid.

I'm also really not sure about number 2.

What does snowy's flip tell you?

Haven't really thought about it yet.

Think aloud.

I sound stupid when I do that.

He was the mafias lurker. Which means I am not, as someone, don't remember who, said.

You think they're certain to only have one lurker? You should have known whether you were mafia already. Keep going.

You're not lurking Ubercacher - you're posting over 50% of all posts (on this page)

I don't know anything about scum play because I haven't been scum yet. I need to go now so I will come back with more thoughts later.

I mean in the first few days, Maniac.

Snowy was one of the most active players early.

@Jamie: of course I think Maniac is wrong. He has been wrong about me for most of this game also. How does me thinking he is town have anything to do with me thinking he is right?

Guak, why Ike? I really don't see it.

why not? he hasn't done absolutely anything good for town so far

Doesn't mean he's scum. Just that he sucks.

agree on that, probably 50-50 there
bozo is more like 80-20 though so definitely lynch bozo first

Rereading D1 I saw a couple of interesting things:

Chaqa (8): RagingIke297, bo_sox48, ghug, snowy801, Ezio, rdrivera2005, Maniac, peterlund
ghug (5): DemonOverlord, Oztra, uberarcher16, MoscowFleet, bozotheclown
Heywood Jablowme (2): guak, CommanderByron
Ezio (2): Vecna, Chaqa
rdrivera2005 (1): SpiritoftheRadio

snowy: in which case I think the fringe, throwaway votes are the ones that need focus. Byron, guak... that's it I think. I don't really think byron is scum, but guak is like 99% scum and we should lynch him tomorrow

funny how snowy was trying to shift focus into throwaway votes. this probably means that most if not all throwaway votes in that first phase were made by town. It's also funny how he defends CB so if there is any scum in that group it would definitely be CB.

snowy: I'm pretty sure on MF and guak. I'm thinking like uber, bo or... someone else I guess. I'll have my thoughts sorted out before the night ends

I think uber is town because of this comment

Ezio was buddying up to bozo early on. I'm not sure what this means. Usually scum buddy up to town, but Ezio is so bad at this game that it is possible that he was buddying up to his scum buddy instead. If bozo is town, then ghug is likely scum so we need to lynch bozo tomnorrow.

Oh that's interesting.

D2-4 vote analysis:

MoscowFleet (6) snowy801, RagingIke297, Ezio, ghug, Jamiet99uk, peterlund
ghug (4) ubercacher16, Maniac, MoscowFleet, bozotheclown
Ezio (3) CommanderByron, Vecna, DemonOverlord
DemonOverlord (2) rdrivera2005, ND
rdrivera2005 (1) guak
No‑Lynch (1) Oztra

(note snowy, ike, ezio, peterlund, and ghug voting together again - quite interesting)

Ezio: (7) Vecna, peterlund, rdrivera2005, ghug, ubercacher16, bozotheclown, Maniac
Maniac: (4) Jamiett99uk, snowy801, RagingIke297, CommanderByron
CommanderByron: (2) ND, guak
peterlund: (1) Ezio
Jamiet99uk: (1) Oztra

ike, ezio and snowy all vote elsewhere

snowy801 (6) Oztra guak peterlund rdrivera2005 Maniac ghug
ghug (4) bozotheclown ubercacher16 ND Jamiet99uk
Maniac (2) RagingIke297 CommanderByron

I feel like scum ghug would had seriously tied this and then try to weasel his way out, but I also wouldn't put it past him to double bus to try to ensure a townread.

Observations:

Ike and ND are the only two remaining players who have never finished a phase voting confirmed scum (whether successfully or not)

CB only ended a wagon on scum when it was safe to do so since there was little risk of an Ezio lynch on that phase.

it's quite possible that all scum voted together D1 in an effort to save ghug. I find it hard to believe that snowy and Ezio didn't switch to ghug.

Possible scum teams: ike-ghug, ike-bozo, ike-cb, bozo-cb, ghug-cb

Guak's reads:

SCUM: bozo, Ike
Potential scum if I'm wrong about either: ghug, CB

Almost surely town: peterlund, ND
town: oztra, uber, Maniac, rdrivera, me

lynch Ike first if I'm NKed. if I survive I'll be pushing for bozo lynch hard. If bozo is town ghug needs to be the next lynch.

Hey y’all. Dropping in quick to say hi and point out I’m not lurking. I honestly don’t have a clue what to do D5 and want to wait for NK, if I’m NK I think my scum reads are:
Maniac
ND
Ghug
Peter
Guak

From most scum to least.

I am pretty confident that Ike and Jamie are town but I’m still new so if I’m wrong I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m worried that since I haven’t been NK yet and I push Maniac the hardest I could be wrong about him. But I’m going on that gut feeling now.

I don't think all scum will end D1 in the same wagon.
I do not scumread Guak anymore.
I still scumread Bozo and think he is the best lynch tomorrow.
Townreads: Peter, Uber, CB, Oztra
Probably Town: Guak, Jamiet, Maniac, Ghug
Could be scum: Bozo, ND and Ike

whenever I see posts like that from CB I begin to think that he has to be scum. he can't possibly be THAT bad

@guak what makes me so bad? What about that post is bad play? The fact I’m admitting I don’t have a clue and don’t want to push a wagon before NK?? I just think you have these goggles on that are making you see me as scum for no reason. Unless you have a reason besides I’m bad at the game and you just feel like it. I pushed Ezio and maniac consistently. I honestly wasn’t sold on snowy and so I stayed on my maniac push. Now I’m not sure and having doubts in myself because I didn’t read snowy as scum.

Oh also.... I. Don’t. Fuck. With. Yoooooou. (It’s a song, look it up.)

You're funny.

@CB - Scum hardly kill someone because of his reads. It's pure WIFOM and usually backfires. Scum will probably choose to kill the most towny read or the better players. They want scummy people around at the end and also people easily manipulated.