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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
28 Mar 12 UTC
POST YOUR CHEATING ACCUSATIONS HERE
Utilize this thread by posting new cheating accusations here and only here.

Pending application for tax-exempt status from WebDiplomacy.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
28 Mar 12 UTC
UK F2F Diplomacy Convention
There is a face to face Diplomacy being organised April 13-15th in Kent.
Is anyone from WebDip already going or interested to go?

http://www.ukf2fdip.org/KentKon2012.html for
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largeham (149 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
Webdip Steam group
For all you bastards (sorry Mujus) who have sold your souls on the altar of electronic distribution, we now have a Steam group.
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/webdip
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Chase Aero (103 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
who wants to play?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=84465
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Chanakya. (703 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
I got this notification!
regular -2
10:00 PM
You were defeated, and lost your bet, but you have been refunded 10 to make up your starting 100; better luck next time!
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
28 Mar 12 UTC
What happens to CD points and docked points?
Say I CD'ed in some games and got docked for some points. Therefore I don't get refilled to 100.
How do I reset the limit to 100?
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
28 Mar 12 UTC
Are you afraid to die?
Are you.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
27 Mar 12 UTC
A self-referencing thread that refers to the threads concerning other thread
A healthy sense of sarcasm and self-deprecation is a must.
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Emanate Fate (100 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
New to Webdiplomacy
I have played a few games before on a friends account and decided to make my own account and try my own luck. I would like to play a live game if anyone else is interested. Thank you
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ILN (100 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
Word association thread
Post the first single word that comes to mind when you have read the last post.
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patizcool (100 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
British Parliament votes
Hey, though I'd just give this a shot, see if anyone would actually have this information? Does anyone know where (preferably on the internet or in an easily obtainable book) I could find the record of votes in the British parliament. I assume it wouldn't be too hard to find the votes of the past few years, but I'm looking for votes from 1801-1899. Any ideas? I'm working on my thesis, and having a little trouble. Thanks
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ILN (100 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
If you had to, would you?
Basically, someone posts a situation, then the next poster says if they would do it and why, then post a new situation. Im bringing back an old post that i found rly funny :D
Il start: would you rather get assaulted by 2 shop keepers beating you with stale, rock hard baguettes or fly out of an airplane, with no parachute...BUT, you bang ANYONE you wish as you fall ?
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Emac (0 DX)
27 Mar 12 UTC
The best gunboat feeling.
Thank guessing right when you have to guess an opponents move. It's such a rush when the map comes up and you made the right choice.
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krellin (80 DX)
28 Mar 12 UTC
TRAYVON...The CRIMINAL....UK Has Balls to Reveal Truth
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120504/Trayvon-Martin-case-He-suspended-times-caught-burglary-tool.html

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Celticfox (100 D(B))
27 Mar 12 UTC
Web Dip Drinking Game Rules
Thucy you requested them so this is what I've come up with. The rules can edit, changed or whatever. I tried to put the ones with the most ability to get people drunk without being to vicious.


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dubmdell (556 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
Hygiene
I brushed my teeth twice this morning and flossed three times.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
24 Mar 12 UTC
The Hunger Games (And Other Teen Franchises)--Thoughts?
I've said my peace about my disdain for manufactured book series in general, and especially teen ones...and yet, "Ender's Game," a book I've praised, is definitely a series, and if not targeted at teens, certainly aimed at them in large part...so, my question, as The Hunger Games hits theatres, is simply--what do you think of them? HP? Twilight? Hunger Games? Ender? Others? Fair to compare...and do any of them, in your opinion, have "staying power?"
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fiedler (1293 D)
26 Mar 12 UTC
awwww :P
ulytau (541 D)
26 Mar 12 UTC
Obi should start his own academic journal, of that thosand-pages-per-issue kind. He would comfortably fill the space all by himself. Obiobi's Obi Review.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Mar 12 UTC
Hey I read it, I wasn't going to NOT rant about it...

:p
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
26 Mar 12 UTC
^Double negative for-the-fail... O.O
ulytau (541 D)
26 Mar 12 UTC
Your posts make it really tedious to scroll down the forum to the interesting stuff! >8—C
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
26 Mar 12 UTC
"So--decent book for teens...but it could've been so much more"

This is all I took away from what you wrote and I think it exemplifies the core problem with your thought process:

*ANYTHING* can be so much more. It's a teen book. If it's good enough for teens, then it accomplished what it set out to do.

I have a laser printer, which is decent for printing, but it could be so much more if it was also a scanner.

I have a wagon, which is decent for carrying a lot of people, or some furniture, but it could be so much more if it was a truck with a full cab.

Everything can't do everything. Based on your review, it seems that Hungry Games accomplished what it set out to do: be a decent teen book. That should be enough.

LakersFan (899 D)
26 Mar 12 UTC
I think Ender's Game would make for a good series. They could at least make that and Ender's Shadow at the same time, methinks. I know a few years back Haley Joel Osmont was interested in it, and looking to get something made, but you know how it is w/ getting films approved.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
26 Mar 12 UTC
Re: Ender's Movie


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1731141/
LakersFan (899 D)
26 Mar 12 UTC
How about that?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
""This is all I took away from what you wrote and I think it exemplifies the core problem with your thought process:

*ANYTHING* can be so much more. It's a teen book. If it's good enough for teens, then it accomplished what it set out to do.

I have a laser printer, which is decent for printing, but it could be so much more if it was also a scanner.

I have a wagon, which is decent for carrying a lot of people, or some furniture, but it could be so much more if it was a truck with a full cab."

Well, along your same line of reasoning, I would ask, abgemacht:

If, in fact, the manufacturer of that printer very well COULD have given it a scanner as well--and we'll say he could've done it for little to no additional charge--but chose to leave it off the model just because...

How would you feel then? Would you not be even a bit disappointed or irritated that the fullest amount of effort wasn't put forward, that when improvement was so nearly attainable as to spend a bit more time or a bit more energy, the cheaper, lazier route was taken?

Take it another way:

Suppose I were your heart surgeon (sorry, you're dead, Jim) and, in this futuristic year of 2184, I could genetically grow and engineer for you a new heart to replace your old one...

However, in this world, once you receive one heart transplant, that's it--you can't receive a second, and the cost of artificially fixing a damaged heart is so astronomically expensive, unless you're at death's door, it's out of the question almost all of the time.

NOW.

On the one hand, suppose I do my standard job as a standard surgeon, though I'm capable of far more, and I give you a heart that has about 25 years of good life "in it," so to speak.

I've done what I'm supposed to do, what is expected...no harm done, yes?

But suppose I tell you after the operation "You know, abgemacht, I could've probably have worked on that heart a little longer and harder if I'd really wanted to and given it about 60 or 70 years of life...of course, that's not what I set out to do, and 25 years is perfectly decent, of course, so I didn't see a need to push myself, but all the same, just letting you now--I could've given you 60 or 70 more years, if I'd really wanted to. Just saying."

How would you feel THEN?

Technically, I've done all I was "required" and "expected" to do...but I suspect you'd be a bit peeved in this instance that *I* had not endeavored to create something that was "so much more" than what I gave you instead due to my own laziness and my own failure to fully utilize and realize my potential as a doctor.

A dramatization, yes, but that's how I feel about this work--sure, it's up to order and on par, but nevertheless, as someone who positively LIVES FOR all the great literature and philosophy and political dialogue and thought (even if I never reach those heights myself) I cannot help but feel a bit shortchanged by an author who comes so very close on so many occasions to pushing the envelope and creating something truly powerful and lasting, something new that we might "add to the Canon's bookshelf," as it were, that she could have added to that wealth of human expression that, as much as anything else, makes humanity as worthwhile as we might currently imagine it to be...

And pulled back from that challenge at the precipice of genius to play it safe and garner a few extra dollars in the short-term, shortchanging we, the people of humanity who benefit from and grow with the growth and change of the literary and artistic canons, in the long-term.

I'm NOT against her making money, I'm all for capitalism, albeit with safeguards, but even still, imagine if other authors and artists had done this sort of pandering.

Would we not be a cheaper culture, artistically, if Shakespeare (if I get satirized for using him, I may as well use him) had pandered so far to the bar set for Elizabethan drama as to cut all of Hamlet's great speeches in favor of just a few more sword fights and deaths? He had to make money, and sex and violence sell, hence so many of Shakespeare's plays (plus those two topics are just somehow intrinsically interesting, it seems, to humanity) but still, he didn't HAVE to add Hamlet's "To be or not to be" speech to get people in the Globe...and are we not more culturally rich, even a bit, for that decision on his part to push the envelope and try and have his work be just a little bit "more" than what it "had" to be to get seats and attendance?

The Beatles could easily have kept producing sugary-pop-song after sugary-pop-song, as they did early on, and the girls still would've screamed like mad and bought up their albums and made them millionaires...they didn't HAVE to become more experimental and poetic, they didn't HAVE to chance things and experiment with sitars and new sound mixing techniques and writing more complex songs...the Stones didn't have to become political, either, they could've gotten by off the boy-pop-band angle they had early, too--are we not more culturally rich for Stones trying to roll, just a bit, to a different beat and say something more, and the Four trying to be just a bit more Fab with their efforts as well?

Picasso went through so many periods in his career, and he didn't have to, some of his periods were popular, and so, when he'd change, he sometimes found his new works weren't immediately welcomed--and yet, aren't we a bit more culturally gifted to have had an artist like Picasso who, instead of being conservative and just staying in his Rose or Blue period, moved on to paint Guernica and other such works, and have such a massive and massively-diverse catalogue of paintings?



The Hunger Games COULD have been more...artistically, it should have been more, and I feel Collins shortchanged her audience short and long-term for her decisions, hence my criticism in that line.

(And on my own personal note, I'll probably never get a single thing I write published, and die anonymous, and as long as I try, I can die in peace knowing I was at least trying to do add something--good, bad, right, wrong, genius, idiotic, or otherwise--to the world of human culture...I'd be MORTIFIED if I went to my grave knowing I had the chance to maybe, just maybe "win some small victory for humanity" and "push the envelope" just a bit, but didn't because I didn't HAVE to. To try and fail is one thing, and perfectly acceptable in art and music and literature and life--to not give the fullest effort and not try is a shame and, if I may be sentimental, just a bit shameful.)
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Mar 12 UTC
@obi

You're making the unfounded assumption that the hunger games COULD have been better. Why do you think Collins is capable of writing better than she did? Perhaps she is only skilled at teen books? Whether or not this is true, I have no idea. But, you seem to think it isn't. What proof of that do you have? Did she start writing adult novels and downgrade to teen novels? Have you read other works by here that were magnificent?

If I bought a product and it turns out it could have been better for the same price, yes, I would be annoyed. But, I am not annoyed when I chose to buy something of lower quality because it's all I need, which should be the case if you're reading teen novels.
Draugnar (0 DX)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Re: Ender's Game as a movie... Fucking cool! I heard Card was in negotiations, but it's good to see it is really getting under way.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Mar 12 UTC
@Draug

Yeah, and I'm wicked excited that Ford is in it.
Putin33 (111 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
I expected Krellin, HC and their ilk to be on here whining that some of the characters in the movie are black, like Fox News is.
Draugnar (0 DX)
27 Mar 12 UTC
And Kingsley as Mazer Rackham, Ender's teacer in the second half of his training at Battle School.
Draugnar (0 DX)
27 Mar 12 UTC
@Putin, please link that story. I'd love to read the stupidity that Fox puts on it. Is there any actual balanced news anymore? Every organization has a slant to one side or the other...
Sicarius (673 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
link putin?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Mar 12 UTC
http://jezebel.com/5896408/racist-hunger-games-fans-dont-care-how-much-money-the-movie-made
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Wow, that IS messed up, those people hating the character/film because a black girl was cast (and hey, they are right, it DOES say that in the book; in fairness, I missed that the first time around--I remembered there was a mention of a little girl with dark skin, I just forgot that was the Rue character, but still, that doesn't excuse those racist comments about people not being "sad" when it's a black girl dying as opposed to a white girl...granted, I saw that death coming a mile away--really, even if Katniss has never seen a survival movie, who sends their 12-year old "ally" out alone to set fires in the woods where there are kids armed with knives and swords trying to kill people off and DOESN'T see the problem there?--so it wasn't really sad for me anyway--yes, I'm heartless, I know--but still, that's just another example of racism bubbling under the surface in this country.)
Sicarius (673 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
@ link
funny how racism and poor reading comprehension go so nicely hand in hand
damn this board is spoiling all sorts of things today for me
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
"You're making the unfounded assumption that the hunger games COULD have been better. Why do you think Collins is capable of writing better than she did? Perhaps she is only skilled at teen books? Whether or not this is true, I have no idea. But, you seem to think it isn't. What proof of that do you have? Did she start writing adult novels and downgrade to teen novels? Have you read other works by here that were magnificent?"

This hinges on something I've been debating with my English friends for a bit, so I'll introduce it here, as it maybe explains why I don't agree with this--

I am personally firmly against the whole idea of "young adult novels" insofar as their being any "lesser" than "adult" novels, critically speaking.

Now, to get one thing, quickly, out of the way--

I'm NOT saying, for example, that "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" should be held to the same standard as a George Bernard Shaw play or a Dickens novel or whatever else we may define as being in "the Canon."

That's fine, that's fair, it's not presuming itself to be, at all, a work of literature, it's a straight-up kids' story (albeit a very, very fun and clever one I liked way, way back when) that doesn't assume for itself some position in the critical fields or society as having some sort of "voice," so to speak...that is, Charlie Bucket and Willy Wonka and Roald Dahl aren't trying to SAY anything, socially or metaphysically or otherwise...

Except, perhaps, that kids should read more and stupidly try to steal Willy Wonka's squirrels before getting tossed down garbage chutes less, which we can all pretty much agree with anyway. ;)

In short, Dahl's book are pure entertainment for kids, and GOOD at that job, too, but that's all they are.

"The Hunger Games" doesn't take that "pure entertainment" route, however.

It tries to have some messages in there, it tries to give some commentary on:

-Politics and oppression (we've already debated how the book debates that plenty here)
-Reality TV
-Barbarism
-Death, what it means to kill someone or something, and all that entails

And so on.

Additionally, Collins herself has stated that she saw the book as, in part, a re-telling of the classic Greek myth with Theseus, the Labyrinth, and the Minotaur (hence the name "tribute" for the kids offered up, as in the Theseus story, that's what those sent to the Labyrinth, including Theseus, are.)

So Collins' book is trying to say something, and that's GREAT--I'm completely on board with her trying to do so! Especially if she wants to write a book that she thinks kids might be interested in! It'd be great to have some more kids reading things with some depth to it than reading...another book series involving vampires, werewolves, and then a REAL blood-sucking monster in the form of Bella Swann.

So I'm HAPPY Collins' book tried to say some things and have some depth, and I give her credit insofar as she tried.

HOWEVER--that now separates her from the Roald Dahls and Dr. Seusses and Judy Blooms of the pack.

She's not a children's author now, she's an AUTHOR, full-stop, on the same critical level, in my view, as a George Bernard Shaw or a Dickens...which obviously creates something of a problem for Collins, as her work, like it or not--and for as much as I criticize it, again, I DID like it, I do criticize things and people I like, even Shakespeare--is now open to legitimate criticism for its legitimate flaws.

And therein lies my essential problem with Collins, THG, and the whole "young" adult novel concept as a whole--

She/It/They try and have their cake and eat it, too.

On the one hand, Collins wants to claim credit for re-telling the classic tale of the Minotaur (and on a level, not badly at all, I might add) as well as giving commentary on reality TV and, as many here pointed out as well, an exploration into the oppressor/oppressed dynamic within political structures and states.

But on the OTHER, as soon as I or any (albeit far more learned and experienced) critic wants to treat her work like an adult work, it regresses, so to speak, and suddenly, NOW it's "just a kid's book," or "just a book for young adults," and NOW it's nothing too serious, just fun entertainment, so stop being mean and overly-harsh and critical.

And you can't have it both ways, she can't, and literary criticism can't--

EITHER you fairly open yourself to applause for your genius and criticism for your failings alike, and get a fair hearing, as it were, by those that read and criticize and, over time, your work either slides into happy obscurity or is elevated by critical acclaim into the upper echelon and is anthologized and taught and hailed as a work of brilliance and you take your place among the Shaws and Shakespeares and Austens and Woolfs and so on, all the while allowing your work to be reviewed and re-reviewed through the ages...

OR you take the Dahl/Seuss/Bloom route and own up to the fact that, after all, you were just interested in writing a piece of pulp fiction for kids to entertain, and you get your praise from your "new" critics (happy children who love your work) and that's it, if you're lucky, maybe you stay on the shelves like the above three and children for decades or even, if you're REALLY fortunate, centuries come to love your works...but you have nothing to say critically about the world, no "voice" with which to talk about authoritarianism or satirize the media in the world today or make a political or philosophical statement or claim your story to be a re-working of a classic and draw from that works' story of critical praise and review as well.

You CANNOT have it both ways, that is, you CANNOT have your praise as you're being taken seriously and THEN duck criticism when it comes.

For one thing, it's not fair to those who came before--Shaw had to face angry critics who would call him awful names and lambaste his plays...Dickens had to face critics as well...as did Orwell, certainly...and Austen...and the Bronte sisters...and, yes, even Shakespeare himself had to deal with criticism when he tried to produce works with messages and themes and ideals presented (notably, critics and audiences alike were mixed on "King Lear" when it first debuted, many not happy that Shakespeare had changed the original story he'd borrowed from so Lear did NOT regain his seat and had to suffer for his actions and things did NOT end happily ever after.)

Part of the deal of being an author or a politician public intellectual or a public Internet-pseudo-intellectual is that you WILL be criticized, and you NEED to take it and take it like a man (or woman) and realize that if you're going to try and say something, if you're going to open yourself up to a public by trying to speak to that public, they have every right to question and criticize and evaluate you every which way.

For another, it's academically dishonest to try and claim credit and shirk all responsibility towards criticism.

You write with a message you want to share with the public, and you're fair game for them.
You write strictly to entertain and maybe make some money, and you're out of the crosshairs.

To borrow a term from British politics:

To write something with a voice and message is to formally open yourself to a sort of Literary Questioning Hour, where the opposition may criticize and attack and disagree with what you have said or tried to say or might have said...and here, we have the critics, but also advocates, and here, they, too, have a voice, and can help the author out and defend him/her as best they can.

If you want to call Shakespeare garbage, you can go right ahead--and Leo Tolstoy will be right there with you in critical support...of course, I can respond, and to face off with Tolstoy, I can draw on Orwell's response to Tolstoy's criticism of Shakespeare, or call upon T.S. Eliot's opinion, and then you might cite someone else...

And on we go--THAT is opening yourself up to peer and public review, THAT is how you share a message and get evaluated on it...THAT is academic and critical fairness.

It is NOT fair to hide behind an invented notion that you're "suddenly" a children's author when you've written about authoritarianism and referenced Theseus and Greek mythology and paid homage to Joseph Conrad and George Orwell and Aldous Huxley for the better part of your novel, JUST because someone DARED criticize you and say, maybe, just maybe, your work and your ideas had some flaws in it.

It's disingenuous to the academic community, and it's disingenuous to teens and kids themselves, I think--

THEY KNOW when a work is trying to get a message across, they're not stupid...they're probably not going to catch every nook and cranny, but they'll probably be able to figure out "Farenheit 451" is about censorship and how that can affect society, or that "Huck Finn" deals quite a bit with racism and societal roles.

So to string them along and have them read your ideas, have them see, plain as day, you have ideas, and that you were courageous enough to put those ideas out there...

And THEN to say "These are my views, and this is what I'm referencing...but if anyone criticizes this view, though, I don't have ideas,, kids, it was all just entertainment"...

THAT is dishonest.

There is no such thing as a "young" adult's novel, thus--it's half a marketing gimmick and term to hook in readers, and half an escape for authors who want to cut and run back to the safe alcove of Willy Wonka Land the second they get treated like adult authors...

Really, it is like teens wanting to be treated as adults and mature members of society until they run into trouble, and then, suddenly, they're "just kids" and it's unfair to pick on them or hold them accountable.



Harry Potter is a series of novels--it is judged as such.
The same goes for The Lord of the Rings.
The same goes for Ender's Game and its series.
The same goes for The Chronicles or Narnia.
The same (help us all) goes for Twilight.

And the same goes for The Hunger Games--Collins is clearly presenting ideas and is on record citing the Theseus story as what she's retold, and she clearly has, and she also has clearly been influenced by and has made stylistic reference to authors in the Canon...

She's not a kid's author with illustrations on some of the pages and all...she's a novelist, and she deserves to be treated as such--for good and for bad.

Thus, when I say THG could have been much more, I'm making a judgment about it's literary quality as a novel...not as a "young adult" novel, as I assert, outside the world of marketing, there is no such thing critically. Teens are not so feeble as to need "young" adult novels, they can read novels, and can read them fairly critically and get their meanings...so, whatever meaning THG had, good for it.

But it could've been better, critically, in my opinion--and I WILL treat is as an adult, so to speak, and not as a "young" adult and let it off the hook...it's more mature than that, it deserves better than that--and so do it's supporters and fans.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Mar 12 UTC
@obi

Why do you expect one to go from a children's book directly to an adult novel?

When we learn math, do we go from addition to calculus?

I think teen novels (teen, i think, is a bad word, because they are *not* for 19yo) are a legitimate subgenre, just as children's books are.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Because I'm not speaking to the complexity of the work (as your addition-to-calculus analogy does) but, again, to whether it presumes itself to be a public voice and be sending a message or not.

If it's voicing an opinion of social importance to adults and is clearly speaking about adult issues ("Sharing is caring" is a kid's issue, not what I mean here, rather, I don't think barbarism and the oppressed/oppressor dichotomy counts as a "kid's" issue, clearly adult) then it's an adult novel.

If it's Thomas the Tank Engine...it's safe from the 3rd degree (unless ol' Mr. Conductor himself George Carlin rises up from the dead, in which case, holy shit, is Thomas in for a whole new kind of adventure!) ;)
fiedler (1293 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Obi: Who are you to decide what people read? If they want to read 'trash' then that's their business. How is it any of yours?
Your Hitler is showing yet again.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
When did I say I was controlling what people read...

I was treating something CRITICALLY, not saying "Toss it! Toss it in the fire, quick, quick!"
fiedler (1293 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Yes you are, that's exactly what you're implying, admit it ADOLF.
fiedler (1293 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Thou dost ride the Whore of Babylon! Thou'st HANGMAN of LITERATURE!
A pox on thee.
fiedler (1293 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Good call on Georgey Boy tho, he da man.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Mar 12 UTC
@obi

I don't understand what you mean.

Lord of the Flies had a lot of violence and heavy undertones, but I'd hardly consider it an adult novel. Does that mean it served no purpose?

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Chase Aero (103 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
Lets PLay!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=84436
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stranger (525 D)
26 Mar 12 UTC
new classic game
I started a password protected, long-phased new game.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=84290
I hope there are some guys who want to join, as I need good players for a good game. So, just message me if you are interested!
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
27 Mar 12 UTC
LIL B IS MY FRIEND 2012
MAKE HIM FAMOUS
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BALLS DEEP (0 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
Introducing friends to diplomacy!
I am about to host my second diplomacy party with a group of friends. here's the thing: i've only played online, and none of my friends have played at all, except for my last game. I'd like to tell you what I'm doing and see if you guys have any pointers for teaching diplomacy, and how to host a good live game.
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
28 Mar 12 UTC
2 Russian friends 'Multi' ?
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
28 Mar 12 UTC
Mod Team
Very Urgent. Please check your emails. If you see this after 9:45, never mind
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krellin (80 DX)
27 Mar 12 UTC
AFRCAN AMERCANS - Need White Man's Help?
it's been suggested that I am racist because I think an African American can make it on his own in 2012. If you are African American...do you NEED a White Man's HELP to make it in life? Or do you think that you are capable of succeeding on your own, WITHOUT a White man's help?

Who's racist? The one who trusts you for your own strength? Or the liberal whitey who thinks you are too weak on your own to succeed????
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ulytau (541 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
That would be awkward if...
Your made-up story please.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
26 Mar 12 UTC
That was awkward when...
Your true story please.
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krellin (80 DX)
27 Mar 12 UTC
D-Cubed (Daily Death in Detroit)
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/police%3A-man-fatally-shot-at-inkster-apartment-complex-20120327
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NakedBatman (545 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
vDiplomacy vs webDiplomacy
What is the difference and why do they both have the same webDip logo but it seems are seperate sites requiring seperate user info. Was there a split in leadership and one site is a rebel faction? I want to play more fun variants' does that mean I need
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NakedBatman (545 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Join our game!
I created a game to play with some friends but they couldn't all make it so we have a few slots that we need filled. Please join us!
2 replies
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Chase Aero (103 D)
27 Mar 12 UTC
Live Action 18
there is a new game i just made join!
1 reply
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