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trip (696 D(B))
26 Jul 14 UTC
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This place needs to lighten up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlrUge8AQSg
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
25 Jul 14 UTC
Summon the Golgathim EoG thread
gameID=142820
End of game posting thread. Take it as a learning opportunity.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
20 Jul 14 UTC
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The Great Filter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Filter

In short the great filter theory suggests that we have not encountered intelligent life yet because there is a "great filter" that prevents planetary life from reaching advanced intelligence necessary for galactic expansion.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
25 Jul 14 UTC
Is a single mod or admkn over 30?
Is the site management ageist? Do they really represent the membership of the site.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
25 Jul 14 UTC
Conservative idiot of the day
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28464009
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THELEGION (0 DX)
24 Jul 14 UTC
Allies vs Axis Yes or No and a new map
basically WW2 map with teams Free France GB Russia USA vs Germany Italy Japan Vichy France. If a teammate gets taken over your team can liberate your teammates territory which would bring him back but its only the territories he started out with. you can also move through your teammates territories and help defend them if a team dominates the map it would asked them to continue if all 4 players say yes this reverts back to the old diplomacy game type as a free for all.
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PSMongoose (2384 D)
25 Jul 14 UTC
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Banned by a moderator: moron
I'm glad that the mods banned 'Peyton is back,' userID=63701, for his annoying spamming, but I dislike the fact that they cited such a childish-sounding reason. 'Banned by a moderator: spamming' would be a much more appropriate and 'adult' reason. I guess I'm just disappointed that the moderators would demean themselves and their reputation by acting so deplorably.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
25 Jul 14 UTC
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Mod Team Announcement Part 2 of 2
Please join me in welcoming bo_sox48 to the moderator team. He will be assisting us on the game side cases. Thank you for agreeing to volunteer your time!
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semck83 (229 D(B))
25 Jul 14 UTC
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Censorship
I'm curious. Why was SYnapse's thread locked?
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SYnapse (0 DX)
24 Jul 14 UTC
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Why do we tolerate people within our society like obiwan?
I sometimes agree with these kind of people, that if we locked them all in a prison and killed them, we could free the world of ignorance and hatred within a week. Maybe the last war of man will be between the progressives and the ones holding us back.
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dirge (768 D(B))
24 Jul 14 UTC
join game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=143904

peru. good fair position.
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Maniac (184 D(B))
24 Jul 14 UTC
AH 5017
Another crashed plane. Play crashed-plane-bingo here. This is intended to be a comment on how the media covers events, no disrespect to the victims or their families/ friends is intended.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 May 14 UTC
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Forum Chess!
Let's play chess!
Rules: Play to win. You can only play for one color. You can not move two turns in a row.
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yebellz (729 D(G))
13 May 14 UTC
How does the draw or resign procedure work?

I would like to play it out a bit more, if people would be willing. I feel like go through the endgame as an exercise could present a nice learning opportunity (for me at least).
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
An interesting alternative is d5. It defends better than Nc8 because at least it isn't anti positional.

Hence I will play
1. e4 (abge) d6 (KingCyrus)
2. d4 (squigs) e5 (fasces)
3. ♘f3 (abge) ♞c6 (yebellz)
4. d5 (squigs) ♞e7 (Shirley)
5. ♘c3 (Fairfax) ♞f6 (gobble)
6. ♗e3 (abge) b6 (Shirley)
7. a4 (squigs) a5 (fasces)
8. ♗b5+ (abge) ♝d7 (Shirley)
9. 0-0 (squigs) ♝xb5 (fasces)
10. ♘xb5(hope) ♞xe4 (Shirley)
11. c4 (squigs) g6 (gobble)
12. ♕d3 (abge) f5 (Draug)
13. h4(hope) ♞c5 (yebellz)
14. Bxc5 (pangloss) dxc5 (fasces)
15. d6 (steephie22) e4 (yebellz)
16. Qc3 (abge) cxd6 (Shirley)
17. Qxh8 (squigs) exf3 (yebellz)
18 Rad1 (abge) d5 (gobble)

8 ║♜ … … ♛ ♚ ♝ … ♕
7 ║… … … … ♞ … … ♟
6 ║… ♟ … … … … ♟ …
5 ║♟ ♘ ♟ ♟ … ♟ … …
4 ║♙ … ♙ … … … … ♙
3 ║… … … … … ♟ … …
2 ║… ♙ … … … ♙ ♙ …
1 ║… … … ♖ … ♖ ♔ …
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——a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h

W: +0
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 May 14 UTC
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Draw/Resign requires a majority approval of people who have moved up to the point of the vote?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 May 14 UTC
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Yeah, d5 is the better move. Was hoping I'd trick a rookie into taking g2. Oh well...
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
13 May 14 UTC
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For White, I'd suggest Rfe1, which will pin down Black's knight, allowing us to advance with our other rook.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
The major threat with Rad1 was a follow-up Rfe1 which would pin the knight and simultaneously force Rxd6 and a quick loss of queen. By playing d5, now if Rfe1 then the Kf7 gets out of the pin while Rxd5 is not possible.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
If White goes for a move like Qxh7, then Qd7 will allow for a queenside castle, which at least puts the king outside the line of fire of the two white rooks.
Squigs44 (273 D)
13 May 14 UTC
I think that a majority of people that have moved is a good idea. An alternative is to weight a majority by the number of times you have moved.
Shirley (0 DX)
13 May 14 UTC
Yea black should make castling a top priority. We can't do anything in the position we have currently.
Squigs44 (273 D)
13 May 14 UTC
In order to prevent a castle we could go:
19 cxd5
Then, their only option to castle is move d7, because the knight guards d6 and c7. So it would play out like this:
19 cxd5 Qd7
20 D6 0-0-0
21 dxe7
forking the queen and the bishop, while capturing the knight.
Surely anyone from black reading this would not try to castle if we made that move.

The question is: do we want to prevent the castle, or do we want to do something else?
Squigs44 (273 D)
13 May 14 UTC
that is supposed to be a d followed by a 6... not 6 D
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
Here comes more analysis

19 Rfe1 Kf7
20 cxd5 (If Nxd5 the queen is pinned and the knight dies) fxg2 (honestly nothing matters anymore)
21 h5 (breaking the kingside) gxh5
22 Qxh7+ (If Ke8 then now the knight is pinned and d6, dxe7 etc is forced checkmate) Bg7
23 Qxh5+ Kg8 (Ke8 you lose as above, ...Kf8 24 Nc7 threatens the king/queen fork and hence wins the exchange on a8)
24 D6 (Now since the king is kind of safe in g8, you have to make another threat. Since d6 is inadequately guarded, pushing the pawn and attacking the knight is very strong).

Now ...Nc8 to attack the pawn is bad because Re8+ forks the queen (the knight breaks coordination between queen and rook and makes the queen vulnerable), so Nc6 is the only other option.

24 ...Nc8
25 Nc7 (attacks the rook, but more importantly sets up for Re8+)
25 ...Ne5, putting the knight in the e-file protected by the bishop, thus avoiding impending disaster.
26 Nxa8 Qxa8
27 D7 Nf3+ (Check protected by queen on a8, if not captured by the queen, will lead to checkmate)
28 Qxf3 Qxf3
29 D8=Q+

It doesn't take an expert to see that two rooks are stronger than 1 bishop. 1-0
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
Note that the above sequence is fairly forcing, there is not much Black can do to survive.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
also I meant 24 ...Nc6
Squigs44 (273 D)
13 May 14 UTC
why not:
19 Rfe1 Qd7
20 Qh7 (doesnt matter for white) 0-0-0
This gets black out of the pin without all of the analysis you just put out. The rest of your team is trying to get the castle in order to get out of the pin. Your 19 ...Kf7 move is not forced as you note in your analysis. Unless you have a better suggestion for white instead of Qh7??
why not Qe5?
Squigs44 (273 D)
13 May 14 UTC
1. e4 (abge) d6 (KingCyrus)
2. d4 (squigs) e5 (fasces)
3. ♘f3 (abge) ♞c6 (yebellz)
4. d5 (squigs) ♞e7 (Shirley)
5. ♘c3 (Fairfax) ♞f6 (gobble)
6. ♗e3 (abge) b6 (Shirley)
7. a4 (squigs) a5 (fasces)
8. ♗b5+ (abge) ♝d7 (Shirley)
9. 0-0 (squigs) ♝xb5 (fasces)
10. ♘xb5(hope) ♞xe4 (Shirley)
11. c4 (squigs) g6 (gobble)
12. ♕d3 (abge) f5 (Draug)
13. h4(hope) ♞c5 (yebellz)
14. Bxc5 (pangloss) dxc5 (fasces)
15. d6 (steephie22) e4 (yebellz)
16. Qc3 (abge) cxd6 (Shirley)
17. Qxh8 (squigs) exf3 (yebellz)
18 Rad1 (abge) d5 (gobble)
19 Rfe1 (squigs)

8 ║♜ … … ♛ ♚ ♝ … ♕
7 ║… … … … ♞ … … ♟
6 ║… ♟ … … … … ♟ …
5 ║♟ ♘ ♟ ♟ … ♟ … …
4 ║♙ … ♙ … … … … ♙
3 ║… … … … … ♟ … …
2 ║… ♙ … … … ♙ ♙ …
1 ║… … … ♖ ♖ … ♔ …
—╚══════════════
——a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h

W: +0
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♝♞♜
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
Because ...Qd7? Rxd5
knight is pinned so you can't capture with knight, obviously capturing with queen is losing, then with the E file forced open you just die outright.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
Proof:

19 Rfe1 Qd7?
20 Rxd5 the queen has no where to go. Qc8 and Qb7 are met by Nd6+ forking, Qa7 and Qc7 immediately get taken, Qc6 Rd6 Qb7 or Qc8 both lose to Re6.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
For example
20 ...Qc6
21 Re6 Qb7 (at least it defends the knight)
22 Re1 and the fork is once again threatened, the queen really has nowhere to go this time and is lost.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
13 May 14 UTC
Ugh I meant the d-file forced open, not e-file which is open already
Fasces349 (0 DX)
13 May 14 UTC
May I ask why Shirley didn't move the Rook when it was in danger?
pangloss (363 D)
13 May 14 UTC
To continue Gobble's line...

19. ... Qd7?
20. Rxd5 Qc6
21. Nd6+ Kd7 (Kd8 loses the bishop)
22. Qxh7

What black does for move 22 is largely irrelevant. Let's just say it's Rb8. Ra7 results in 23. Nb5+ (discovered check) and loses the rook. Rc8, Rd8, and Re8 all lose the rook as well. The only safe move for the queen is Qxa4 and that removes the queen from the action. Moving the bishop would also lose it and the knight is pinned.

22. ... Rb8
23. Nxf5+

Now either Kc8, Kc7, or Ke8.

23. ... Kc8
24. Nxe7+ Bxe7 (forced: moving the king loses the queen)
25. Qxe7! Qxd5 (forced: any other move results in either Rd8# or Qd8#)
26. cxd5 Rb7
27. Qe8 Kc7 (forced)
28. Re7+ Kd (forced)
29. Qd8+ Rd7 (forced)
30. Qxd7#

23. ... Kc7
24. Rxe7+ Kc8 (If Bxe7 25. Qxe7+ Qd7 26. Qxd7#)
25. Rd8#

23. ... Ke8
24. Rxe7+ Bxe7
25. Qxe7#

@Fasces,

16. Qc3 Rg8
17. Nxc7+ Kf7
18. Nxa8 Qxa8
19. Ne5+
pangloss (363 D)
13 May 14 UTC
Also, Team White, I would have preferred 19. cxd5

If 19. ... Nxd5
20. Rad1+ Kf7 (if Kd7 then 21. Rxd5+ and wins the queen)
21. Qxh7+

Now either Kf6 or Bg7

21. ... Kf6
22. Nc7 Rc8
23. Nxd5+ Qxd5 (forced)
24. Rxd5

21. ... Bg7
22. h5 fxg2
23. Qxg6+ Kg8
24. h6 Qf6
25. Re6 Qxg6
26. Rxg6

Alternatively
23. ... Kf8
24. Qxf5+ Qf6 (or 24. ... Bf6 25. Rxd5)
25. Qxd5

But from here
19. Rfe1 d4
20. Qxh7

We have some good alternatives.

20. ... g5
21. Qh5+ Kd7 (forced)
22. Nxd4 cxd4
23. Rxd4+ skewering the King and Queen

20. ... g5
21. Qg6+ Kd7 (forced)
22. Qe6+ Ke8 (forced)
23. Nd6+ Qxd6 (forced)
24. Qxd6
pangloss (363 D)
13 May 14 UTC
Sorry for the triple post.

If Team Black does anything other than 19. ... d4, then we should immediately follow up with 20. Rxd5.

For example:
19. ... h5
20. Rxd5 fxg2
21. Qg8 Qxd5 (forced because any other move results in 22. Qxg6#)
22. Qxd5 Rc8 (to defend against Nc7#)
23. Nd6+ Kd8
24. Qf7 Kc7 (if anything else, 25. Qxf8+ or Qe8+ [in some scenarios #])
25. Nxc8

If 25. ... Kxc8
26. Qxf8+ Kb7
27. Rxe7+

Other moves for 25. include g5, f6, or b5. White's response from there should be 26. Nxe7.

If Team Black does do 19. ... d4
20. Qxh7 Qd7
21. Qxg6+ Kd8 (forced)
22. Qxb6+

Three options: Ke8, Kc8, Qc7

22. ... Ke8
23. Nd6+ Qxd6 (forced)
24. Qxd6

22. ... Kc8
23. Nd6+ Qxd6 (forced)
24. Qxd6

22. ... Qc7
23. Qxc7+ Ke8 (forced)
24. Nd6#

I also posted other lines above.
pangloss (363 D)
13 May 14 UTC
There are mistakes in my alternate 19. cxd5 line. I like 19. Rfe1 better now.
hope (419 D)
14 May 14 UTC
Is Black going to move sometime soon?
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
14 May 14 UTC
(+1)
Next time we play, there needs to be a timer.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
14 May 14 UTC
Black has NMR'd ....
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
14 May 14 UTC
Black has lost see analysis.
GG

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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
22 Jul 14 UTC
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Introducing WebDip Census
So I have seen a ton of people trying to figure out the population of this site. I introduce my project the WebDip Census.( http://wdcb.webs.com ) I hope you all take the time to fill out the census survey.
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THELEGION (0 DX)
24 Jul 14 UTC
nazi comic book...WTF >=(
Ok today I went to a comic book store with my little cousin he's 6 years old and it was his birthday so we walked around the store to try to find his favorite comic book series he didn't know know the name of it but he would always read it when he was there with his older brother which of course didn6 care what his little brother was looking at.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
17 Jul 14 UTC
Why are we so stubborn?
So I have a quick question why are diplomacy players so stubborn. Even in the event where you are offering a deal that equally benefits us and you why are we just so stubborn? Any ideas? Does this stubbornness hinder or help with achieving solos?
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Maniac (184 D(B))
24 Jul 14 UTC
Looks like we could all be going back into Iraq
Isis has issued a fatwa ordering all females between 11 and 46 to undergo FGM. Any country looking to invade would now almost certainly get public support.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
03 Jul 14 UTC
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GR Challenge!
It's been a while since we've done one of these. All games will be Classic WTA Full Press. Please use this GR list: http://tinyurl.com/nyqrxy4
GR. Name (Max Points, Phase Length, Anon/Nonanon)
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Dunecat (5899 D)
22 Jul 14 UTC
New 3000 D buy-in game
WTA, 4-day phases
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=144890
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
23 Jul 14 UTC
Hamas Rejects ANOTHER Ceasefire
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4549051,00.html "Speaking in Qatar, political chief Khaled Mashal demands Israel lift blockade, says Gaza-based group will never agree to disarm." I post another thread to specifically call attention to this...once AGAIN Hamas rejects a ceasefire. Demands met or no...surely if they're a people of peace they should allow for a ceasefire, right? But they've rejected it...again...but this is really Israel perpetuating the war. NEVER Hamas.
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KingCyrus (511 D)
23 Jul 14 UTC
UN intervening in Detroit Water Shut-offs
Detroit is shutting down people's water for overdue payments. UN intervenes. Discuss.

http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/u-n-to-intervene-in-detroit-water-shutoffs/
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SYnapse (0 DX)
23 Jul 14 UTC
Chairman Sheng Ji Yang
Whose he? Is he knew?
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
23 Jul 14 UTC
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Look at this awful thing being done by Israel
http://globalnews.ca/news/1465175/hamas-militants-wearing-israeli-military-uniforms-killed-soldiers-idf/

Oh wait.
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KingGuru (105 D)
23 Jul 14 UTC
World Diplomacy Championships on This American Life this weekend
I heard something about it on my local public radio station. I couldn't find anything on the TAL web site http://www.thisamericanlife.org/ , but maybe after it airs? Thought, if anyone, you all should know about it.
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krellin (80 DX)
22 Jul 14 UTC
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OUTRAGE! Civilian Airport Rocket Attack
....oh wait....it's just innocent little ole' terrorist Hammas trying to kill civilians. No big deal. <...waves hand in your face...> Move along. Move along...this is not the outrage you are looking for...

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/07/22/delta-cancels-all-israel-flights-over-missile-fear/
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Kallen (1157 D)
23 Jul 14 UTC
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LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUgEmezpS_E
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
23 Jul 14 UTC
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New Video of The Great Leader Kim Jong-Un...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ux1TzKQnJA

Go man, go...Putin, we've finally found something about your hero that gives the world joy.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
23 Jul 14 UTC
Foreignpolicy.com
I think many of you will enjoy this service it delivers daily news to your email about what's happening in the foreign services. It's full of information and for free you can get 8 articles and the email service.
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Octavious (2701 D)
22 Jul 14 UTC
Happy Pi Approximation Day!
I will be cooking an approximation of a pie in celebration.
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SandgooseXXI (113 D)
23 Jul 14 UTC
Sandgoose down!!!
Iiiii an drunk. What are you doing tonight?! And thank god for auto correctness !!!
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