wait why the hell is there baseball?

I didn't say that climate change didn't have an impact, but I did say that this is a fairly normal and predictable event that will happen every once in awhile regardless of climate change and that we shouldn't look at Irma as standalone evidence that the climate is creating stronger storms. Why is nuance so hard?

@bo

ok i was wondering how a storm chaser went with hurricanes with all the traffic and whatnot

but also, there is evidence to suggest that we'll be seeing more Cat. 4-5 hurricanes, although fewer tropical cyclones overall

https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter14_FINAL.pdf

page 1250

Yeah, I said that earlier. It's a pretty plain to see trend. Irma is one of many. If Jose grows to a major hurricane, it too will be one of many. We had three major hurricanes make landfall in the US in 2005 too.

Sun cycles

Well, funny how often people try the "you don't understand anything about science" when presented with scientific data. It happens in just about every thread, and I have zero patience for people pretending their gut feeling sitting on the sofa is as valid as actual study and research which takes many years. I get really fed up with that

And wusti, your notion that something is "caused by climate change" is nonsensical. In that sense no storm is ever caused by anything, since everything is a contributing factor. Saying that climate change doesn't alter the impacts and frequently magnify them is, well, just wrong. If that's what you mean by "cause" then absolutely you can prove the contribution. If you mean something else, then nothing causes everything

And yes, deforestation is a major driver of climate change both in terms of global budgets and local impacts. You could indeed do a dissertation on that, at Harvard even, provided you could get in. That takes work too

I have three masters degrees. To hell with education

So of course in the late 90's early 2000's there was no possibility of any other underlying factors impacting home runs other than steroids right?

No possibility of the baseballs wound tighter then?

No possibility of a drop in the pitching talent those years?

Smaller ballparks?

Nothing but steroids.

Got it.

Actually, bo that isn't what you said initially. You said that climate change didn't cause the big storm

Of course one data point doesn't demonstrate the existence of climate change. One data point is no different than zero in fact (bonus points if you know why that is). Howeve, having already amply demonstrated that climate change is well underway, it is. It at all hard to show that a) this kind of event is far more likely, b) that the occurance of a lot of extreme events is strong evidence and c) that this storm was stronger as a result of climate change.

Ogion I lived in Boston from the age of 14 (maybe younger, cant recall exactly) til I joined the military ( to pay for college)

Let me tell you something. I didnt even know I was poor til the liberals of THAT city made it perfectly clear I was.

Pitiful city of hate there. Possibly the most racist city I have ever been in.

There are some things about Beantown I love, but not a single desire to ever go back to live

Didn't apparently learn anything doing them either.

Yeah, to hell with education! After all, what did educated people ever do for you? Except create every single damn thing in your physical culture. Except for that.

Did not mean to hit reply, but the Harvard people were the worst of the lot. When you run around telling me you went to Harvard, you are telling me "my nose is so far up in the air, nothing you tell me will reach me"

I don't live in Boston either. And yeah, there is a lot about it not to like, including the racism. However, if that's the most racist city you've ever been in, you haven't been out much.

been to more countries than 99% of the population Chattanooga, Knoxville, Atlanta...they dont hold a candle to that city.

Now, if you ask me which NATION is the most racist...easy...Korea

Recall it was in Boston, south Boston that they rioted over busing. No one more racist than a leftist.

lol, and what do you know...i lived in Southie....what a dump

Stresslined, saying Korea is racist doesn't align with the liberal agenda that only White Male Americans are racist. Nobody else. Just White Male Americans.

trust me...as someone who can speak (or could at the time) rather good Korean, the things they said about Blacks would make a KKK member cringe.

They are probably the MOST xenophobic people I have ever met, BUT they are also quite polite and good hosts, but dont even think about dating their kids......They have a clear racial hierarchy and they are at the top, and everyone is below them

Which Korea are we talking about? /s

thankfully i saw the /s at the end of that...lol

DMZ duty for 3 years....pitiful place to serve, but not bad when we were rotated back out of there.

https://goodmenproject.com/bits-and-pieces/how-did-texas-residents-react-to-a-lesbian-couple-being-verbally-attacked-by-a-waitress-video/

Jamesyanik, how does that even relate to the conversation?

Just a knock to Ogion, he always likes to portray the south as more bigoted. Just a video i remember watching a while back.

his delusions are bordering on mental illness so it's nice to keep him tethered to reality occasionally

I grew up in Eastern Kentucky (coal region) easily, the most poverty stricken area I have seen in America Nobody gives a hoot about them people. Everyone else matters more than those poor slobs up there in Appalachia, killing themselves on drugs faster than they can pump out replacements.

Yes, I can say that, cuz I am from there. They are white trash, but they are MY white trash.

I konw the type that Ogion is. The PhD is the shield of which ALL debates shall be reflected. All fall off that PhD like rain on the roof.

I wont ever forget the kids from Cambridge. Loving and caring for everyone, til they saw me with Overalls and also going commando.....i was then quickly called "hillbilly" and a few other choice phrases.....their hypocrisy knows NO BOUNDS

Tulsa Oklahoma, number 24 in Obesity, we lost our top 5 spot a while back, but walking around town you'd never recognize it. And if you're ever in town, drop by 71st and Lewis near where i live. There's a creek out back where two people have died in the last few years, and a Walmart up the street where a guy got caught making meth in the back of the store.

it's the purgatory zone. not north Tulsa which is crime ridden and shitty, and not south Tulsa which is all prettier and with nice schools

did i also mention our schools are so defunded that we're down to 3 days a week in some parts? because why do kids need to LEARN or anything?

welcome to new America sir..... we have lost a sense of ourselves. I have a Masters from a good school, and grow my own food, live in a small home, and consider myself lucky

Yep. Pretty standard anti-intellectual bullshit from conservatives. Feel totally insecure in the face of someone smart who knows how to work hard to advance human knowledge? Talk about smugly superior your backwater values are! Works every time

Want to see hupocrisy? Look for someone using a computer to talk about how stupid scientists are. Yeah. So stupid they invented the thing you're Hsiang that you wouldn't even begin to comprehend how it works.

Typical. Look down your noses at the people who have made just about everything around you work (and suck down their tax dollars while "serving (yourself)" in the military. Then bob about how "independent" you are and how you don't take handout while pocketing your government check paid for by, you guessed it, a smart educated guys' taxes who actually produces something

And then bleat about hypocrisy. Yeah, I know the type really well. I've lived in the Midwest, and much of my family is from the south. I know it really really well

Oh, yeah, that's why so many minorities are leftists and work with leftists. Because they're so racist. Lol. Meanwhile, which party is it again who is all buddy buddy with neonazis and Klansman and talking about how they must have "free speech" rights to threaten everyone else? Funny how those guys weren't insisting on free speech for black lives matters. Oh no.
Yeah, liberals are super duper racist.

You don't even recognizing that all that lying rots your brain