So Putin, just to be clear, you did indeed source your quotes from: http://www.rense.com/general85/pats.htm?

@ Putin33

"A polo playing rich boy who never did an honest day's work in his life."

Yeah, right. He put in an honest day's work every day for his whole adult life. Patton was a professional soldier in every sense of the word. He fought in two world wars and a border conflict.

My grandfather was Jewish in Paton's army and regarded him as a hero, neither a nazi or anti-semite

Right, you're only an anti-Semite if you happen to have a Russian surname. Everybody else is absolved.

Scumbag Putin33:
Claims Patton was a far-right anti-Semite

Posts unsourced quotes from a far-right, antisemitic website.

Jackass Invictus is not disturbed by the fact that his hero is lauded by anti-Semites.

Anyway the quotes are not incorrect, they're in his damn diary.

http://books.google.com/books?id=RRolDuahqPMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=patton+papers&hl=en&ei=CvB0TvjCHIrEgAeD2vX2DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=jews&f=false

Any other pathetic excuses for the man?

More seriously,

"A polo playing rich boy who never did an honest day's work in his life."

I agree with Gunfighter06 here. What is an honest day's work if not being in the army? And running campaigns against Nazis, no less. As for polo, all you need to play polo is a horse. My cousins were quite poor growing up, but one really like riding so she and her parents worked hard to be able to buy a share of a horse. She competed in polo and riding competitions and did quite well.

Looks like that joke went right over your head.

He's not my hero. The guy was a competent general who helped secure an Allied victory in World War II. I don't need complete ideological purity in someone to admire the results of their actions. Alexander the Great owned slaves, should we throw out everything he did?

You're just an unpleasant guy.

So Putin admits to copying and pasting from an anti-Semitic website without attributing the source. Plagiarism from fascists by a communist, someone call him a doctor quickly, the man needs help!

Yeah well Patton was not poor. His father was a rich attorney and big landowner in Virginia. His mother also came from a rich family of big land owners in California, and Patton himself married the daughter of a textile baron.

I've never heard of poor people riding horses for fun or playing polo. But I'm sure the far-right have an imaginary definition of what "poor" means, since they all seem to claim to be poor or have lots of 'poor friends'.

Yet another mean spirited generalization.

And what does it matter that Patton was well off? The whole class warfare canard must get tiring.

Invictus, and you're just a charming fellow to be around. I do love how now you're claiming that we shouldn't be so hard on people for their "minor" ideological problems like admiring Nazis and being a white supremacist. I'm sure leftists get the same treatment, you being the non-partisan that you claim to be.

It's only "class warfare" when you point out somebody's rich. When you and your Republican friends talk about welfare moochers and overpaid trade unionists it's just telling it like it is.

But now it goes from "poor people play polo" to "who cares if Patton was rich".

I don't believe in Thoughcrime, Putin33. If someone sympathizes with Nazis or communists and those are their beliefs then that's fine. I think they're wrong and profoundly disagree, but until they translate those beliefs into actions that harm others they have every right to think however they damn well please.

Putin gives two references:
1) http://books.google.com/books?id=RRolDuahqPMC&printsec=frontcover&dq=patton+papers&hl=en&ei=CvB0TvjCHIrEgAeD2vX2DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=jews&f=false

This one doesn't work.

2) http://ricks.foreignpolicy.com/category/one_time_tags/general_patton

This one gives some pretty innocuous diary entries, certainly not anything like Putin has claimed.

PLEASE NOTE I am not saying that Patton did not write these things, but so far the only evidence Putin has produced is from http://www.rense.com/general85/pats.htm (which definitely does work). And what is more there is lots more of this distasteful stuff to be read there.

You're too lazy to look up "Patton Papers" on google books? Gee I'm glad you're so proud of your intrepid research skills there.

"
PLEASE NOTE I am not saying that Patton did not write these things"

Thanks for admitting you're just engaging in your usual red herring shenanigans.

Putin your are a communist plagiarist who provides unattributed quotes from a fascist website.

Ah yes, plagiarist. I forgot you're a pathetic little man whose sole purpose is to sit on here and pretend like posting in an e-forum full of reactionary trolls and missing a single citation is on par with submitting a paper to APSR. Only for me of course. Because that's easier than accepting the fact that fascists adore your buddy, Patton.

Are you still too lazy to look up the Patton papers and see if those quotes are wrong? Yep. Also, still waiting for your answer about whether you think the South winning the civil war would have been good for African-Americans. Probably never going to get one though, coward.

You pick the strangest things to get mad about, Putin33.

+1 Invictus for meme use.

-1 Putin for missing reference

+0 for thread.

''Because that's easier than accepting the fact that fascists adore your buddy, Patton.''

Except I posted this at 5.27, check the record and you will find that it is the full and complete post:

''Blimey Putin what a nasty man. Thank you for pointing it out to me.''

Later, on checking the quotes it became apparent that you were copying and pasting unattributed quotes from an anti-Semitic website. I felt it relevant to point this out, as I am sure you would do should any other poster do the same. What is more this was unlikely to be an inadvertent mistake as you provided no citation for the quotes. My conclusion was that you deliberately quoted from the website while concealing the anti-Semitic nature of the source. I guess that you viewed this as a case of ''the end justifying the means'' eh?

I got it from pravda, who likely got it from rense, although they cited the diary entries. At any rate I'm wondering the point of your fuss is? It's obviously irrelevant to whether Patton said those things, since you seemed to have long stopped caring about that and are instead intent on harping on this. Nevermind that you've plagiarized and quote mined from anti-Darwin blogs before.

"I got it from pravda"

I think that's all we need to know.

So you got it from here: http://engforum.pravda.ru/index.php?/topic/218147-general-george-patton-and-the-judaic-khazars/?

It is indeed in the forum section of Pravda. Some tasty bits which you must have read too include the following:


At the end of World War II, one of America's top military leaders accurately assessed the shift in the balance of world power which that war had produced and foresaw the enormous danger of communist aggression against the West. Alone among U.S. leaders he warned that America should act immediately, while her supremacy was unchallengeable, to end that danger. Unfortunately, his warning went unheeded, and he was quickly silenced by a convenient "accident" which took his life.

Patton's urgent and prophetic advice went unheeded by Patterson and the other politicians and only served to give warning about Patton's feelings to the alien conspirators behind the scenes in New York, Washington, and Moscow.


Having immediately recognized the Soviet danger and urged a course of action which would have freed all of eastern Europe from the communist yoke with the expenditure of far less American blood than was spilled in Korea and Vietnam and would have obviated both those later wars not to mention World War III -- Patton next came to appreciate the true nature of the people for whom World War II was fought: the Jews.

etc....etc....

Did you actually read any of that open racist sewer flowing across your computer screen, before you copied and pasted your selected cherry-picked bits?

I went to an open racist sewer to get fawning posts about a racist sewer rat named George S. Patton. Why do you think this somehow damages the fact that Patton was scum? Have you bothered to check the quotes in the Patton Papers yet? Or are content with your little jihad against me?

The Patton papers published by Google do indeed show some, but by no means all of your quotes. People have been known to make things up you know even the good folks at http://www.rense.com/general85/pats.htm quoted by a nutter on the Pravda forum and then further mined by you. That is why I wanted to ensure that you had this correct.

As to my support of Patton I refer you again to this. I do not think that I could have been clearer: ''Blimey Putin what a nasty man. Thank you for pointing it out to me.''

If I find someone mining a fascist web-site again I will have no hesitation about pointing it out. Putin you were in error here and a simple admission would do you credit.

Gee golly, you finally bothered to check the source I've only told you about for something like 10 posts now. Yes I'm well aware pravda can make things up, which is why I checked the book it was cited from first. I forgot that every flipping discussion with you needs to be peer reviewed (unless it's something you post, of course), and should have expected you'd be the annoying pest you normally are. For that I was truly in error.