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doofman (201 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
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http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16618
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imafool (100 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
Talking (Diplomacy)
I find people on this site insist others to talk to everyone a lot. Even enemies. But this seems a little silly. Talking to your enemies won't help you. And there are certain situations where someone has sent you a question and you are doing something which they don't want. Do you answer truthfully and give away your intentions? Or do you lie and show yourself to be untrustworthy?
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hellalt (90 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
Live Live Live
10 D, 5min/turn, gunboat, wta, not anonymous
Come on!
gameID=16584
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doofman (201 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
live game, carn- you know you want to
5bet, 5min, ppsc, normal game
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16617
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turbomursu (100 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
live game starting in 30 minutes
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16615
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`ZaZaMaRaNDaBo` (1922 D)
07 Dec 09 UTC
Bible study
Some of you are God fearing people. I'd appreciate your advice.
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turbomursu (100 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
another live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16610

bet5, 5min turns, pub messages only. starts on on the hour.
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doofman (201 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
its live bitches
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16609
5bet, 5min stages, ppsc
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hellalt (90 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
Big Game!
gameID=16565
350 D pot (50 D to join in), WTA, anon, all communications allowed, 1day/turn.
Do you dare?
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denis (864 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
LIVE GAME?
all the regulars are you intersted?
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curtis (8870 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
Live game please join in
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16600
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dep5greg (644 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16597
Join this game now for 5 min phases
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Iceray0 (266 D(B))
10 Dec 09 UTC
Live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16593
10 bet
PPSC
5 minute rounds
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Sauron (0 DX)
10 Dec 09 UTC
JOIN LIVE GAME
gameID=16589
starts in 30 minutes
15 point bet
WTA
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Helljumper (277 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
Live Game in 30!
gameID=16590
Anon players
10 pts to plat
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Don Corleone (277 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
Possible bug in leagues
Russia, Italy, Austria, and Germany all have the same countries as last game. The only countries that changed are ones which have been eliminated in that game. It really sounds like a bug.
gameID=16500
gameID=15239
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dep5greg (644 D)
10 Dec 09 UTC
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16588
JOIN THIS GAME
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Gnome de Guerre (359 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
What's going to happen next?
http://webdiplomacy.net/map.php?gameID=16078&turn=3&mapType=large
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curtis (8870 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
Live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16581
need 2 players
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Helljumper (277 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
Live game in 30!
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n00bzorz pwnage (494 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
GOD ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?!?! DAMN SERVER!
Sorry about this just a minor rant by me...
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doofman (201 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
Its My Birthday and i wanna play a live game
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16561
5min phases and ppsc 5bet
5 more needed
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lightbringer76 (100 D)
08 Dec 09 UTC
Just need 3 more
for a Chaos game on goondip

http://goondip.com/board.php?gameID=177
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Hamish (579 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
How long does an average real time game take?
Subject says it all.....
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DJEcc24 (246 D)
07 Dec 09 UTC
World Cup Of Diplomacy Staff
i am going to need some help with the organizaton of the world cup tournament coming up. Sign Ups will begin in January. But this thread is for those who would like to help me keep it organized. This being my first time organizing it would be greatly appreciated. i know the Ghostmaker and denis have expressed interest.
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PatDragon (103 D)
02 Dec 09 UTC
Riddle me this...
So I gave this riddle to another player once, with the stipulation that if he could solve it, I would cease hostilities with his nation. It turned out, the player was no better at puzzles than diplomacy. Anyway, I thought some of y'all might have fun with it:
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Draugnar (0 DX)
03 Dec 09 UTC
@Xapi - doesn't work. If the liquid filling the can is significantly heavier than water, then then can will ride lower in the water and if it is lighter, then the can could ride higher.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
03 Dec 09 UTC
i would argue that anyone in a gravitational field does not neccesarily have a tub.
Draugnar (0 DX)
03 Dec 09 UTC
For the nails and tha painting, put the nails in very very close together (so they basicaaly touch). Tie a not near the center of the string and wedge it between the nails. Either gets removed and it falls.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
03 Dec 09 UTC
2^n (for n =2) is 4, a 4x4 board fill that however you like (left as an exercise for the reader :P)

for the next board size up all you need is 4 thick L shape to surround (sufficient but not neccesary) This shape can definitely be filled by L shaped blocks. (but i don't have the mathematical vocabulary to prove that.)
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Dec 09 UTC
slowly begin to tip it on its side.
If you reach a point (45 degrees) where the level of liquid is exactly touches two opposite edges of the cylinder, then its exactly half full.
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Dec 09 UTC
@ Draugnar, I'm 15 years old but an good at maths and have an interest in riddles (and in the question of free will)
Don Corleone (277 D)
03 Dec 09 UTC
this cylinder is transparent/open? that makes it easy...
I was trying to use an opaque cylinder.
Draugnar (0 DX)
03 Dec 09 UTC
You can look in the top, presumably, DC. That works perfectly, dave bishop. You are quite good and think outside the box. Did you like my answer for the picture frame riddle?
Draugnar (0 DX)
03 Dec 09 UTC
Oh, but it may be more or less than 45 degrees depending on the height of the cylinder. The key is if it reaches the front lip before (more than half), after (less than half), or at the same time as (exactly half) the liquid reaches the back edge.
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Dec 09 UTC
Yes I did... the one with the knot? Ingenious.
And yeah... you're right about the 45 degrees thing.
I think I'll now post a similar riddle to my 9 ball riddle earlier
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Dec 09 UTC
You have ten bags, each containing 10 balls.
9 bags contain 10 balls weighing 1KG each, while the tenth bag contains 10 balls weighing 0.9KG each.
You have to find which bag contains the heavier balls.

To do so you can make one weighing on a set of electrical scales which will give an exact answer for the total weight of the balls it carries.
You can put any number of balls from any number of bags on the scales to make this measurement.

How do you find, for sure, the bag containing the heavier balls?
wydend (0 DX)
03 Dec 09 UTC
I'm not understanding the question. Do you mean the bag that contains the lighter balls?
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Dec 09 UTC
Yes, its meant to be this:

You have ten bags, each containing 10 balls.
9 bags contain 10 balls weighing 1KG each, while the tenth bag contains 10 balls weighing 0.9KG each.
You have to find which bag contains the lighter balls.

To do so you can make one weighing on a set of electrical scales which will give an exact answer for the total weight of the balls it carries.
You can put any number of balls from any number of bags on the scales to make this measurement.

How do you find, for sure, the bag containing the lighter balls?
wydend (0 DX)
03 Dec 09 UTC
Because your statement says that 9 of the bags contain 10 balls weighing 1K each, while your question asks how to find the bag containing the heavier balls. Wouldn't you be trying to find the bag that contains the lighter balls?
wydend (0 DX)
03 Dec 09 UTC
disregard that last post
wydend (0 DX)
03 Dec 09 UTC
hmmm. I'm not sure if this is right but I will give it a shot. What you could do is take one ball from this first bag, two balls from the second, three balls from the third etc... Then you weigh the bag that you created and depending on the total, you would be able to find out how many .9 KG balls were in the weighed bag, and thus the number of the bag that carries the .9KG balls.
Xapi (194 D)
03 Dec 09 UTC
Take one ball from bag one, two balls from bag two, etc.

You'll have 55 balls. The total weight will be 55 kg minus a number from 0.1 Kg to 1.0 kg.

If the number is 0.1 kg (total weight 49.9 Kg) bag 1 has the lighter balls.
If the number is 0.2 kg, bag 2 has the lighter balls, etc.
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Dec 09 UTC
yep, well done guys
lkruijsw (100 D)
04 Dec 09 UTC
Back to the original puzzle.

You have 12 coins, one is fake. But you don't know whether it is heavier or lighter than the other coins.

You have a balance and you may use it 3 times. How do you find the fake coin?

Lucas
lkruijsw (100 D)
04 Dec 09 UTC
Oh, it was not the first riddle. I mean weighing scales.
dave bishop (4694 D)
04 Dec 09 UTC
I could find which out of 27 were heavier if I had 3 weighings
orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Dec 09 UTC
weighing any six coins, three on one side and three on the other, if they are different then you know you've got the fake, otherwise you know you've got 6 real coins.

if you've got the fake, take of 3 and put them aside, place 3 real coins and see if they match (putting them on the heavier side also reveals whether the fake is ligther or heavier) if you've still got a tipping scale you know the fake is ligther and which 3 coins it was in, if they balance you know it's heavier and it is in the three you put aside.

(once you have it down to three plus whether the fake is heavier or ligther you put three coins on for your last weighing)

If the first six weigh the same you've got six real coins, and again pick three plus thee of the ones you haven't weighed yet...
ottovanbis (150 DX)
04 Dec 09 UTC
is this the goat v the car on the game show riddle? it was referenced in "curious incident of a dog in the nighttime." it's an awesome problem. it's called the monty hall problem, isn't it?
LeoDaVinci (170 D)
04 Dec 09 UTC
@Lucas

It is a question of working out all the possibilities, finding which coin is counterfeit, and whether it is heavier or lighter. Let us begin...
Let me call the coins A through L...
First weighing I weigh A, B, C, D vs E, F, G, H
Two possibilities - they don't balance or they do
& Let's say they don't - two possibilities again A, B, C, D is heavier than E, F, G, H or A, B, C, D is lighter than E, F, G, H.
# Let's say A, B, C, D are heavier so either one of A, B, C, D is heavier OR one of E, F, G, H is lighter. Then I will weigh A, B, H vs D, E, L leaving C, F, G aside.
Three possibilities - either they balance, A, B, H, is heavier than D, E, L, or A, B, H is lighter than D, E, L.
* Suppose they balance. Then C, F or G is the fake. So I weigh F against G.
Two possibilities - they balance meaning F, G are real and C is fake and heavier, or they don't balance meaning whichever was lighter in that last weighing (F, G) was the fake, and lighter.
* Suppose A, B, H was heavier than D, E, L. So, either A or B is heavier or E is lighter. Weigh A against B. If they balance, E was fake and lighter. If they don't balance, whichever one of A, B was heavier is the fake and heavier.
* Suppose A, B, H was lighter than D, E, L. So, either H was lighter or D was heavier. Weigh H against L. If they balance, D was fake and heavier and if they don't balance, H is fake and lighter.
# Supposing A, B, C, D was lighter than E, F, G, H, take everything in the asterisk section and switch the letters A, B, C, D with E, F, G, H and vice-versa.

& Suppose A, B, C, D balance against E, F, G, H, then they're all real. Then we weigh I J against K, A
Two possibilities - they balance or they don't.
% Say they balance, then L is fake and we weigh it against any of the real coins to see whether it is lighter or heavier.
% Say they don't, then either I, J is heavier than K, A or I, J is lighter than K, A.
@ Say I, J is lighter than K, A, then, either one of I, J is fake and lighter, or K is fake and heavier. You weigh I against J. If they balance, K is fake and heavier; if they don't whichever is lighter of I vs. J is fake, and lighter.
@ Say I, J is heavier than K, A, then, either one of I, J is fake and heavier, or K is fake and lighter. You weigh I against J. If they balance, K is fake and lighter; if they don't whichever is heavier of I vs. J is fake, and heavier.

All that for a fake penny. I would have just taken the hit.
LeoDaVinci (170 D)
04 Dec 09 UTC
@orathaic
Your solution requires more than three weighings. Check out the different options and see that you usually need four.
aash2790 (0 DX)
04 Dec 09 UTC
This was on my math homework last week.

Let a1 , . . . , an be distinct positive integers and let M be a set of n − 1 positive integers not containing a1 + ⋅ ⋅ ⋅ + an . A grasshopper is to jump along the real axis, starting at the point 0 and making n jumps to the right with lengths a1 , . . . , an in some order. Prove that the order can be chosen in such a way that the grasshopper never lands on any point in M.
e.g. in terms of numbers

123=3, 456=4

First step eliminates 6 of the possible solutions. Gives you two possible weights or a definite weight of a regular penny. The weight of one penny may equal 1 or 1_1/3.

14=2, 25=3

By dividing the first weighings by three and comparing them to these measurements, you can deduce which one has the fake penny. 14's average penny is 1. 25's is 1.5. If they equal the same, you know it's one of the two you left out. It must be one because it corresponds with the first measurement.

The last measurement is between two pennies.

Simpler version. I don't know if this is what you said LeoDaVinci.

Okay, this one has nothing to do with math:

One day, while looking through the archives of early twentieth century explorers, you come across a scrap of paper with this diary entry.

“June 24

It was pitch dark when I got up this morning. As I cooked my breakfast I vowed that this would be the day I started to observe the local inhabitants.

I set out due south, and within half a mile of the camp I came across the tracks of a mature specimen. Although I could see the outline of his bare feet clearly, there was something odd about them. It took me a moment to realize that the right foot was taking a larger step than the left. By now I had already visualized the individual I was tracking, and decided to refer to him as “George.” I was able to follow the tracks another three miles south, but then lost them completely. I decided to make a sweep directly west, since I had planned to explore that way anyways, and it seemed to be as good a direction as any for spotting George again. As I trudged on, I marveled at the desolate landscape, and realized I was the first European to see these sights.

I continued on my westward trek until supper time, when I paused to heat up some stew. After another half hour, I decided to give up, and turned to head north. I was enjoying the peaceful evening but after a couple of miles of northward journey I noticed my lantern was running quite low on fuel. I turned it down to the barest glimmer, and started to look for the camp. I knew it would be only a mile or so north of where I stood.

Finally, I was able to make out the tents. I had just picked up my pace when suddenly a strange figure loomed in front of me. Startled, I realized it was in fact the object of my research. He seemed a hearty specimen, but considerably shorter than me. Looking closer, I knew I had found George: there was something funny about his left foot – perhaps it had been injured in the past. He didn’t seem surprised at running into me, but turned and looked over his shoulder as he walked away.

I watched as he vanished into the dark, and then rushed into camp to detail my first encounter.”

The question: could George swim?
uclabb (589 D)
04 Dec 09 UTC
"Let t be a real number, and let floor(t) be the greatest integer less than or equal to t, i.e. floor(t) is t, rounded down to the nearest whole number. Define x=floor(t) and y=floor(2t). Write a polynomial in the variables x, y which is identically zero."

Isn't this just (2x-y)(2x-y+1)? One of those has to be zero.
uclabb (589 D)
04 Dec 09 UTC
and for yours, Plastic Hussar, I think the point is that the only way the west thing would work out is if you were at one of the Earth's poles. So I assume that the answer is yes, he can swim, since he is a polar bear?

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denis (864 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
tilmletokill's proxy won't let him make threads or finalize moves
It gives him these options to work from.
Include Form, Remove Scripts, Accept Cookies, Show Images , Show Referer, Rotate13, Base64, Strip Meta, Strip Title, Session Cookies.
Wich one does he choose?
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Gnome de Guerre (359 D)
09 Dec 09 UTC
"Snowfall" -- New 36-hour game; please join.
This should be a friendly game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16556
Default payout, messaging allowed, 36-hour turns.
Commemorating the first real snowfall of Winter 2009 (in Connecticut).
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chs42 (466 D)
08 Dec 09 UTC
Suggestion for Retreats phase.
How about skipping the retreats phase if the only possibility for all retreats is "disband"?
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Puddle (413 D)
07 Dec 09 UTC
Truth
Okay so here are the rules, Each post must start with something you find to be true, it doesn't have to be something fantastically deep, but it should be something of substance, so not some thing like, "Red shirts are red." After your truth you can say whatever you'd like, but the point would be to discuss others truths. I'll go first.

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