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David E. Cohen (100 D)
24 Jan 18 UTC
New Variant: Dawn of the Enlightenment
It is on a temporary homepage, http://davidecohen.wixsite.com/diplomiscellany, since I am having a bit of trouble editing my main website. Please take a look. I would love to get comments, suggestions and criticism.
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leon1122 (190 D)
14 Jan 18 UTC
Interesting Subject
This is an interesting subject. Please discuss.
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joshaj8 (100 D)
10 Jan 18 UTC
Playing with less than 7?
Does anyone know if we are able to play a game with less than 7 people? And if we can, does anyone know how we go about doing that? Our current game will only start if we have 7.

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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Ashes Test Cricket
Hoorah !!! England's Cricket Team is in Australia for the Ashes Test Cricket Series
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Jamiet99uk (898 D)
03 Dec 17 UTC
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MAFIA XXXIII ~ CALL OF THE WEST ~ GAME THREAD
((Please do not post in this thread unless you are a participant in the game))
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toms (0 DX)
03 Jan 18 UTC
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Buy high Quality Passports,Driver’s License,ID Cards,Visas. online
We are a team of professionals with many years of experience in manufacturing forged passports and other identity documents, the best producers of quality fake documents. With more than 10 million documents circulating in the world.
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
20 Oct 17 UTC
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Study Group - Fall 2017
Fall 2017 Study Group Lecture and Discussion Thread. This semester will be taught by Professors Tom Bombadil and StackelbergFollower.
gameID=208608
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
18 Oct 17 UTC
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School of War - Fall 2017
Fall 2017 School of War Lecture and Discussion Thread. This semester will be taught by Professors ckroberts, eturnage, and Djantani.
gameID=208533
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datapolitical (100 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Sunday morning/early afternoon live game
Who's up for a Sunday morning (10AM PST/1PM EST) live game?
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JamesYanik (548 D)
31 Dec 17 UTC
so does the old forum still work
am I alone here?
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
14 Dec 17 UTC
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Alright, Brainbomb.
Are you ready for a poem I wrote at 3AM?
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Manwe Sulimo (325 D)
15 Dec 17 UTC
Star Wars episode 8
So, was I right? Is it awful?
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brainbomb (290 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Western Meddling in Iranian Protests
So this is great and all. Encouraging protests and stuff. Um didnt this happen in Iran in Arab Spring too? When people start dying were gonna look pretty bad again. Like we encouraged a coup but didnt actually care about the consequences.
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
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Discord Chat
I've created a Discord Server to make it easier to coordinate future games and chat about ongoing ones (that allow press). I checked with one of the mods first to make sure it was okay to set up. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/5WpVw29
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ghug (5068 D(B))
12 Dec 17 UTC
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Thread for Nazis to Spew Racist Bullshit
Make sure not to test if emojis work though. *That's* against the rules.
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
Julia Bork
Dreamboat bork
Queen of all my borks.
brainbomb (290 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
Weebdiplomacy dot com seems to be strugglin at saving wot matters
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
Wot it do!
brainbomb (290 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
Weebdiplomacy.net
brainbomb (290 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
Im considering making a diplomacy site called weebdiplomacy.net.
Itll be a dating app / diplomacy game
damian (675 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
I think you’d have better luck making grindrdiplomacy.net considering the demographics of the site.
brainbomb (290 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
(1901) From Austria: Are you a bear or a Twink

(1901) You: a/s/l?
damian (675 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
At least then when you got fucked in the ass by an ally you probably asked for it.
brainbomb (290 D)
23 Dec 17 UTC
We will do a holiday sweepstakes where you can win a three panel fold out poster of Valis on a bicycle.
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
@Goldy,
That is not workable because if the Republican Party were to pursue such as it's primary objective then the party would simply play the role of coming in after the implementation of another left-wing program and working to balance the budget. Once they had satisfied their promise, the voters could then replace them with the left-wingers who can then implement more programs. That is a losing fight. Hence, if the Republican Party wants to stand for something, it must take the big stand on principles and do battle on those grounds, not relegate itself to a indefinite, secondary position in the American political process.
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
@Goldy,
That is not a path that the party can go down. Hence, if you support fiscal conservatism, then you have to fight the real fight now, in order to pursue what will be a fiscally conservative policy over the long-term. That fight must be on the grounds of principle and freedom. To win that fight is to win the war.
goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
28 Dec 17 UTC
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They're not being fiscally conservative now, so I'm not going to support them. I don't care about promises for the future: words are wind. I care about the here and now. Nor do I care to support their other agenda that they're pursuing.
TrPrado (461 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Civ:

That was part of their 2016 strategy though, putting the blame on Obama as the stand-in cause of the budget issues.
TrPrado (461 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Oh I misread quite a bit, but I still agree far more with Goldy on this. It’s hard to hold themselves to principle when all they cut for the sale of “fiscal conservatism” is what’s personally fashionable.
TrPrado (461 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
For the name of***
Ogion (3882 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Republicans havent been fiscally conservative since Eisenhower. Where have you been?
I like Ike
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
@Goldy,
The point is that the left-wingers are never go to stop. There will always be another program. Hence, if the Republican Party is to serve the role of being the austerity party, then the course of events will be that the left-wingers implement more programs, thus increasing spending and deficits (as the political will to tax is weaker than it is to spend), which will be followed by the Republicans winning election on an austerity program, from where they balance the budget and then loose the subsequent election to the left-wingers. Repeat and repeat and repeat.

That can't be the course of the party. So, the only option is to fight the real fight, on the grounds of the role of government, economic and personal freedom and upon the Constitution of the United States. That is the real fight and to win it is to win the war over the future of the country. Correspondingly, it will provide us with a fiscally conservative future, for the long-term.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Ike would despise the modern GOP.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
28 Dec 17 UTC
So ogion are you saying it is wrong to be fiscally conservative?
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
In other words, I think that you are looking at the question the wrong way. Who was the real fiscal conservative? Was it Richard Nixon, who was able to balance the budget for one year, in 1969, but under whom total government spending continued to increase fairly rapidly, relative to GDP, or was it Ronald Reagan, under whom we ran very large deficits, but under whom the increase in government spending, relative to GDP, stopped growing? The answer is Ronald Reagan because the higher government spending is, the more difficult it is to finance it, not only in direct fiscal terms, but also due to the drag that government programs/taxes induce on the economy.

Total government spending, Federal, State and local, rose from just over 3℅ of the national income in 1900 to about 40℅ of the national income in 1980. It has hovered around 40℅ of the national income since. It has gone up during recessions and come down during our long expansions between then and now, but with it all said and done, it is still just slightly below 40℅ of the national income. If it had continued right on through 50℅ and on to 60℅ of the national income, then we are not going to be running surpluses anyways.
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Correction: Total government spending was around 3℅ of the national income in 1890. It had increased slightly by 1900. I would have to actually do the calculation, but it was somewhere between 3℅ and 5℅.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
“Starve the beast” is bullshit.

Republican leaders don’t really believe in fiscal responsibility.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Bill Clinton balanced the budget several years.
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
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@Jeff,
Well, I am not talking about "starving the beast," although debt is, in fact, a downward pressure on spending. I was talking about the political force against the increase of spending. Total government spending rose from below 5% of the national income in 1900 to near 40% of the national income by the election of Reagan. We are still at about that number today. It is a little bit lower, but we are near it. Of course, this doesn't account for everything, because things like the regulatory costs on private enterprise should be factored in as well in a truly honest and comprehensive discussion, as mandates are, in practical effect, public ownership of the means or results of production, but for the purposes of this discussion, I think that national income alone as a barometer is sufficient.

What changed was the dialogue of the political arena surrounding the role of government generally and of federal spending. Reagan was the first President since The New Deal to be successful in actually cutting into projected domestic spending, relative to GDP (and more importantly GDP per capita) and those cuts, while not what he had hoped to achieve as he was working with a Democratic Congress, were nonetheless dramatic and moved the nation's domestic spending trajectory downwards substantially. Domestic Federal spending continued to increase, but the rate of increase was lowered by a lot.

What happened is that he ran deficits because the administration was also successful in heavily lowering taxes and in simultaneously increasing defense spending. However, concurrent to that, the growth in per capita GDP and the growth in incomes, as a result of tax cuts, deregulation and a conscientious monetary policy, began to outpace the growth in government spending, foreign and domestic, so that by the mid-80's, despite the tax cuts, deficits peaked and then began to actually fall. Deficits, as a percentage of the economy, peaked in 1984 and fell every year through 1989. That is, despite the tax cuts and the increase in defense spending.

H.W. Bush was then elected in 1988 and took office in 1989. Under H.W. Bush, the rate of increase in domestic spending began to rise again, which in combination with the Gulf War, resulted in a significant jump in total Federal spending. It was actually, to that time, the largest jump in Federal spending since Nixon and the largest jump in projected spending since LBJ. H.W. simultaneously reached an agreement with the Democrats to increase taxes, in exchange for the Pay-Go system, but because he did not increase taxes by a commensurate level, deficits began to rise again, to almost 4% by the onset of the recession (3.7% on the year of 1990 and 4.4% on the entire year of 1991). Overall though, it was not a large recession and the economy returned to growth by the end of the Bush administration. Clinton then came into office on the moderate New Left platform, raised taxes a little bit more, reducing deficits, passed some spending increases in his first two years, but nothing too substantial, failed to pass his health case plan and lost control of Congress in 1994. Hence, projected domestic Federal spending remained at a much lower level by the time that Clinton lost control of Congress. He also implemented the unwinding of our previous military spending programs. From there, he remained basically deadlocked over the ensuing six years, resulting in no significant spending increases, allowing the economy to resume growth at a rapid level, which outpaced spending. Hence, by the late 1990's we were running a surplus. The only reason that we ran a surplus was because we had divided government and a very strong economy resulting in spending falling as a percentage of the economy.

George W. Bush was then elected, along with a Republican Congress and preceded to increase domestic spending, in his first term, by the largest margin since LBJ, returning to approximately where we had been prior to the 1990's expansion, while also cutting taxes. Foreign spending also increased due to the wars. Hence, we began to run large deficits. However, by the middle of his Presidency, he began to put a hold on the increase in domestic spending so that over his second term, growth began to outpace spending and with revenues increasing due to a strong economy, deficits began to fall. Deficits fell from '05 to '06 and from '06 to '07. We then hit the Great Recession and deficits rose rapidly.

Obama was elected and in his first two years implemented several very substantial long-term spending programs, particularly the ACA, as well as a substantial increase in regulation and a medium-sized tax increase, before then losing control of Congress and spending the rest of his Presidency struggling to implement any of his domestic program. From there, the economy resumed growth, although at a fairly low level and due to spending being held in check, deficits began to fall. Hence, after nearly forty years, we are about where we were in terms of total government spending.
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Let me restate that last sentence.

After nearly forty years, we are about where we were in terms of total government spending relative to our national wealth. It is still increasing on a per capita basis because the growth of the economy has outpaced population growth, meaning that we are getting wealthier. Getting to spending is no longer increasing on a per capita basis would be the next step.

Of course, all of this is also accounting for inflation.
Durga (3609 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
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Woah did this actually turn into a thread for Nazi's to spew bullshit?
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
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@DO,
I doubt that anyone here is a "Nazi," but either way, your comment has no value without specifying who you are referring to.
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
CroakandDagger is a self-confessed Nazi, and ND is a Cultural Nazi.
civwarbuff (305 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
@Jamiet,
Wait, are you serious? CroakandDagger is a "self-confessed" Nazi?

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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
11 Dec 17 UTC
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Official webDip Holiday: On the first day of Xmas, my zultar gave to me
Joys, fun, and prizes inside, 2017 edition, 3rd annual holiday!
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damian (675 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
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Century Leagues
The Full Press Tournament You've All Been Waiting For!

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datapolitical (100 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Fewer live classic games these days?
Looking back through the last couple months' completed games, it feels like there are far fewer Classic live games than there were a few years ago. Do other people have the same feeling?
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
08 Nov 17 UTC
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Winter 1v1 Champions League
The Champions League returns! See inside for details.
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datapolitical (100 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Best Picture
What movies have you seen this year, and which one do you think should win the best picture Oscar?
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CptMike (4457 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
GvI championships
Hi all. We have just finished a GvI championship between:
brkyzgn, CptMike, Denovian, Ezio and michaelf77
Germany won 10 times, Italy 9 times and a game ended with 1 draw.
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IHaveCoffee (100 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
Ask random Questions
Is it true that fish can drown?
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xorxes (31128 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Championship Crown Game Series
Like the Championship Belt, but GvI instead of FvA.
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
26 Sep 17 UTC
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Championship Belt Game Series.
France v Austria .
Winner holds the Championship belt.Game id must be posted.
Only the winner creates next game.
How long can you hold the belt.
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brainbomb (290 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Exreme Winter over North America
Ive never experienced a December this cold in Nebraska. Temperatures were -7 F last night here. I guess in parts of Minnesota and North Dakota its like -26 F
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Diplomacy AI
I know there was work done on this in years past; has there been anything recent?
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datapolitical (100 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Discord press game
Discordia http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213453 is a 48/hr turn game with Discord chat for press. It's invite only, so ask in the thread and I'll send you a link. Discord offers notifications and voice chat, which allows for faster comms.
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
Speed of Thought vs Speed of light.
Is thought faster than speed of light.
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
After Midnight (the turn ends) - 24 hour game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213473
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
FvA late night
Looking for a game? http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213487
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