I am saddened and dismayed that no one could answer my question. Oh how the thread goes silent. Shame!

i got a big pile of rocks next to my house you are welcome to crawl back under, ND.

@ND: If you think the US election came down to "vote for Hilary if you like women" vs "vote for Donald if you prefer men" then I think you're mistaken. Personally I think Trump and Clinton are both awful - perhaps Trump is a bit more awful. That said, Trump is clearly a misogynist, and there was a fair bit of misogyny from some of his supporters too, sadly.

In France it's a shame there wasn't a socialist in the final runoff, but it came down to a moderate centrist versus a far-right ultra-nationalist. I've got no time for aggressive nationalism and I'm glad the National Front didn't win.

Well "blighter" is not a compliment, perhaps it's between boor and blaggard both alphabetically and in meaning. I rather like the word Boor. Along with Bore and Boar. It allows me to say ( verbally ) for example, that I consider Donald Trump to be a boor ( or bore or boar, since unlike writing, when spoken there is no clarification to be deduced from seeing it written, or by pronunciation ) in all three spellings and meanings. ( the verbal clarification )

Okay, I appreciate the feedback to my query. I understand better now. I am less ignorant now.

Perhaps the reason your question was not answered in the way you would like, ND, is that it's a type of non sequitur... that's a fancy way to say that your question is based on false, illogical premises, and therefore deserves no answer, but instead, merely contempt.
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Thank you for your wise words MajorMitchell. You are clearly the wisest person here. Thank you for blessing me with your gifts of knowledge today.

Le Pen was a fierce nationalist and Eurosceptic. After Brexit has turned out to be a disaster, there was no way in hell Le Pen would win. I called a Macron victory back when Fillon's campaign tanked.

And a Le Pen defeat I'd predicted even earlier, when Wilders lost in the Netherlands.

She still won one third of the votes. A strong anti-EU pro-Fascist element remains in france.

Though i suspect a large part of that is anti-status quo, which is a rather damning on the status quo (like Trump's election, and Brexit were - though both also ended parts of the status quo).

@ND, your alternative choice was to vote for Trump - now given his misogynistic comments, voting for Trump was sexist.

Not voting for Hillary doesn't make you sexist. You could well have voted for Jill Stein.

But in the small minds of many Americans, there are only two choices, each as corrupt as the next.

France's 'primary' selected the two choices which would go to the run-off. So realistically they had far more choice. (Still not as good as STV, but miles better than your Electoral college). Your voting system is but one example of the democratic deficit in today's US.

Why was the ~9% percent of Voting "Neither of the 2 above" (not stayathomes), the Abstainers, as it were, not factored into the vote totals?
Were that stance's supporters at the far ends, Left & Right, of the circle of political Parties.
June's Parliamentary ballots - do they have "None of the Above" printed on them ?

I know a lot of far left did. The right had an option they liked. But a lot of Communists either refused to go or decided to mark their ballots incorrectly so as not to be counted.

Ora: I could not have voted for Jill Stein. I was in one of 3 states that she could never have been an option due to her failure to achieve the requirements for electors in Oklahoma (which place an extra burden on unregistered parties like the Green Party (that statute is actually going to be changed very soon to place equal requirements)), and also not having a write in option (which would be incredibly difficult to account for in presidential races anyway).

Fair enough TrPrado.

I stand by my answer to ND though. Voting for Trump is not the same as not voting for Hillary.

@ TrPrado

What makes you say Brexit has turned out to be a disaster?

At the very least, that's how Europe perceives it.

@Ora/@Prado, just in case you didn't know, Jill Stein was at Mike Flynn's table when he had dinner with Putin. See photo:

http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/jill-stein-putin-russia-paid/1647/

Putin had all of his bases covered.

@TrPrado

That's how they've spun it on the continent? I'm amazed. I was (and continue to be) firmly in the Remain camp, but so far Brexit has been far better than I'd dared hope. By what measure are they defining it a disaster?

TrPrado is American right?

Most people I know in NL think Brexit is a stupid idea, expect it to fail etc., but they're fully aware that Brexit hasn't happened yet so we still have to see.

Brexit isn't a disaster. YET.

And it has made me about 10% in 3 months buying cheap pounds.

Purely as an investment or because you're importing or something?

Purely a short term gamble/investment.

Good call.

Yep. I've already set my stop loss order in for $1 (~0.8%) so I'm OK with losing that small bit so I don't have to think about it.

Yeah.. I never actually invested, but stop loss orders seem kind of OP ;-)

I've been privy to this information for quite some time, but...

Joe Exotic is running to be the Libertarian candidate for Oklahoma Governor.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sc-_7RCFArM
Yes, this man.

It gets better. The friend who made me aware of Joe Exotic's gubernatorial intentions was asked to be his campaign manager today.

@yanik needs to get involved on the campaign.