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Thucydides (864 D(B))
20 Mar 12 UTC
Hey so I got a paid internship in my field.
Just thought I'd share the good news.
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dubmdell (556 D)
20 Mar 12 UTC
JCBryan invitational 2
ATTN: Trip, Lando, Oskar, Danaman
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
20 Mar 12 UTC
Looking for a player
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=83494

PM me or various other people for the password.
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dubmdell (556 D)
20 Mar 12 UTC
Need a seventh for JCB Invitational
JCB, Lando, Oskar, Danaman, trip, and I are in need of a seventh player for this game: gameID=83494. In the first game, frenchtourist played with us, but due to his not logging on since the 8th, JCB said that I could, with permission from the other four, advertise for a seventh.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
20 Mar 12 UTC
WebDip Presidential Campaign 2012
Please accept this thread as official notice that the Eden-Sargmacher presidential campaign team will be setting up an exploratory committee for election to the new position of President and Vice President of WebDiplomacy.net.

The Eden-Sargmacher ticket welcomes your support.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
19 Mar 12 UTC
Coast question
A fleet in WMED can still cut support from a fleet in Spain (nc), right?
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
18 Mar 12 UTC
I quit live games.
Every single time I join a live game I forget about it and go CD.
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therhat (104 D)
20 Mar 12 UTC
Zultar Please Reply
I have a couple questions I need to ask you. Please reply to this thread.
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Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
So I'm guessing the fucktard mods docked me points...
Fuck you, assholes!
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Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
Considering that is an ongoing anonymous game and I'm not even in it... Epic fail King Asshole.

@YJ - I'm gonna take the rest of the night off. Yes. I turned $750 into $1800 this afternoon at Hollywood Casino and was on a high when I cam home to find this shit - punishment without trial and without punishment guidelines.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
@Sarg - Two mods agreed, not all of them.
Sargmacher (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
Yeah, sorry, slip of the tongue where that was concerned.
King Atom (100 D)
16 Mar 12 UTC
no rlly! draugnr echated in thesse games!!!

gameID=73695gameID=12
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Mar 12 UTC
And to be honest, I didn't realize all of your points were locked into 1 7-day game.

Here's how this conversation should have went:

"abge, I'm sorry I fucked up the pacifist game, but I really wasn't trying to break the rules just to be a fuck-nut. Can I please have a few points back so I don't have to wait for my 7-day game to finish?"
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Mar 12 UTC
Dear King Atom (userID=36076),

You will cease with the cheating accusations immediately. Further infractions will result in a silence. Please consult the site rules: www.webdiplomacy.net/rules.php

Thanks,
abgemacht
webDip Admin
Sargmacher (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
But, my main thrust was that, I think abgemacht does have the best interests of everyone concerned as his priority. He has to balance leniency towards you with the responsibility to visibly enforce the rules that everyone of us has to follow.

As abgemacht implied, there is punishment but also forgiveness - so hopefully in time you may have your full point allowance reinstated.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
16 Mar 12 UTC
Besides, if abgemacht ever DOES fly off the handle for real, we all know it's gonna be KA's account that gets permabanned and deleted forever.
Sargmacher (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
Haha. The day we all wait for.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
I don't actually want them back anymore. It's time to logoff and take that break after all. I will throw the 7 day game so I get eliminated then go focus on poker and SWTOR. Poker pays and SWTOR is a good cooperative (not competitive) game.
semck83 (229 D(B))
16 Mar 12 UTC
Draug is right about the mod action in this case. First of all, it is COMPLETELY unreasonable to dock somebody points just for complaining about moderator action on the forum. Wow, talk about thuggery.

Second, he's also right that there was a clearly delineated consequence to his action, and that was the canceling of a game. Nothing he did was against any site rule. While it's true that various mods had said they would ENFORCE various results (though it always sounded like canceling, not docking) in the past few days, that is just part of the problem. When mods view their own declarations on a forum -- or emanations therefrom -- as a good substitute for clear written rules, you have completely arbitrary and autocratic rule of the website.

The response usually returned when this accusation is made is "Hey, we're volunteers, shut up and don't complain." So just ask yourself this: if you lived in a town that was governed by a board that did whatever it wanted, with or without rules, that had no accountability to the citizens, which chose its own members, and whose only response to complaints was, "Hey, we're doing this for free, you know," would you be happy?

Of course, a valid response to that would be, "Hey, I/we own this stupid site, you know." But is that really true? My understanding is that the fees for this site are in fact paid by users. (No, not by me, just to be clear). So to be honest, I really don't see where the mods get off acting like they do. I guess we all legitimize it by putting up with it, but it seems like thuggery and I question if we should.

I don't endorse a DoS, but I do think abge's way out of line here.
Beware the Ides of March
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Mar 12 UTC
@semck

He most certainly was not docked for complaining. I clearly said in the email I was going to dock more points when he had them.

Also, I am accountable--to Kestas. Let there be no confusion about who I answer to.

Finally, I'd like to remind everyone the Draug wouldn't even be here if this was a normal site. He would have been banned a long time ago. He's still here because the mods respect every member, even when they treat us like complete shit.
Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
16 Mar 12 UTC
oooh shit, the plot thickens.
semck83 (229 D(B))
16 Mar 12 UTC
@abge, Sorry for saying that you did that, then. I should have inquired first.
dubmdell (556 D)
16 Mar 12 UTC
Draugnar: " I'm pissed but not willing to ruin everyone else's fun"

Nike: "You are like the child that doesn't want to swim, so you took a dump in the pool, keeping everybody else from swimming too." = YOU FUCKING RUINED OUR FUN **INTENTIONALLY**!! You even said so in the pacifist thread. Do I need to quote that for you too?

Asshat.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
Thanks, semck. And I *am* a dues paying member as it were. Silver level ($50) as it happens which is more than abgemacht has given in hard dollars.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
WHAT EMAIL!!!!!!!!!! I GOT NO FUCKING EMAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Mar 12 UTC
I sent you an email at noon. You have a lot of emails with us. Perhaps it's the wrong one? I'll forward it to a different address.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
I have one listed on my profile. You mods say keep that up to date. I did. It isn't in that one. So you sent no fucking email! Here is what is in my gmail accoutn on my profile!


Try on a new inbox:ClassicImportant firstUnread firstStarred firstPriority Inbox



























Adult FriendFinder




Adult FriendFinder News: Are You Ready for a Spring Fling?



Mar 8














GregRobert Pet Supplies




Peggy Bolin, Lucky and Green are a Pair at GregRobert Pet Supplies



Mar 1














RabbitMart Store




Peggy Bolin, Lucky and Green are a Pair at RabbitMart Store



Mar 1














webDiplomacy gamemaster




webDiplomacy: webDiplomacy forgotten password verification link (no reply)



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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Mar 12 UTC
I've forwarded it to the email in your profile. I didn't realize that wasn't the one I had sent it to.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Mar 12 UTC
Yes, clearly I sent it to an old address of yours; for that I apologize.
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
So, now I'm to be expected to check for your emails everywhere instead of you practiving due diligence? I'm tired of this bullshit. Fuck off. I don't care what the end result of the investigatiopn was.

Ban my account and remove my emails from *everything* related here. I willt ake no revenge. I just want to be done with this bullshit and the easiest way is to never fucking return.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
16 Mar 12 UTC
"So, now I'm to be expected to check for your emails everywhere instead of you practiving due diligence?"

no...I already said it was my fault and apologized...
Draugnar (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
Don't care. Done now. Draugnar out.
semck83 (229 D(B))
16 Mar 12 UTC
I don't question that abge has put in a lot of money's worth of time for this site, and I think the mods do a lot of things well -- forum (non)moderation, and a lot of the routine stuff. But I think this whole episode has been way out of line, and just highlights the really flawed structure of the mod system. There is nothing reasonable about the mods viewing their whims or say-so, independent of pre-existing rules, as a reasonable guide to players or the management of the site.
fiedler (1293 D)
16 Mar 12 UTC
and cue mapleleaf.....
He'll be back
...Adult FriendFinder Spring Fling?
acmac10 (120 D(B))
16 Mar 12 UTC
Lol, Draugnar, I think PE wants to be your Fling date XD

Anyways, I think these threads are always fun to watch.

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steephie22 (182 D(S))
18 Mar 12 UTC
how to provoke Jug as France?
I know its best-case scenario for France but don't know how to get there...
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
18 Mar 12 UTC
Am I responsible for a person if I help them lose their Faith?
Details Inside:
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
19 Mar 12 UTC
Rejoice: Bullshoi is silent.
Thank you, fk.
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rokakoma (19138 D)
19 Mar 12 UTC
World game, Russia replacement needed
gameID=82533
Russia is in pretty good position I think, 540 pot WTA gunboat

I think it worths joining!
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TheWizard (5364 D(S))
19 Mar 12 UTC
Quality live full press game in 4 hours?
Anyone interested?
Must be possible to get one going that doesn't suffer from CD's...

reply if you want to be in and I'll send you the password.
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therhat (104 D)
18 Mar 12 UTC
All Summer In A Day
Debated the best short story ever written. If you have not read it read it and if you have read it discuss it.
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
18 Mar 12 UTC
+1 if you muted Bolshoi.
whose bloshio is he mute
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fortknox (2059 D)
19 Mar 12 UTC
Multi'ing and rules and such
Another PR from me, so please wait for me to post and don't noise it up, please.
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
16 Mar 12 UTC
Draugnar Remembrance Game: Classic 36 hr 5 D
I am hosting 5 point Classic 36 hour sincere game in honour of Draugnar.
Game link: gameID=83338

Anyone interested in playing this remembrance game please post here with a reason. Best reasons will get the password to join. Best reasons will be judged by myself and player voting through the +1 system.
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bolshoi (0 DX)
19 Mar 12 UTC
geofram's a homo
he got mad just because i multied in one game. is this hyper-sensitivity? i only do it occasionally.
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Barn3tt (41969 D)
19 Mar 12 UTC
20-1-2012 EOG (WTA Gunboat)
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Sargmacher (0 DX)
19 Mar 12 UTC
UK Entry, Eurovision Song Contest
So, Engelbert Humperdinck is representing the UK in this year's Eurovision Song Contest and today his song has been released. What do we think? Is it a winner?

http://www.eurovision.tv/page/news?id=49523&_t=love_will_set_you_free_for_the_united_kingdom
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
19 Mar 12 UTC
Who is threaht is he knew?
Please discuss, I can neither confirm or deny my opinions until this has over fifty replies.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
18 Mar 12 UTC
A possible addition to the site
On VDip Oli added an "Extend" button, in addition to draw/pause/cancel. This delays the next phase for 4 days and could be used instead of the pause feature for short pauses and could speed up the whole process. Thoughts?
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bolshoi (0 DX)
18 Mar 12 UTC
what's up with clooney/jolie/etc?
1. who is "directing" them to see the issues that support the elite agenda
2. are they proposing anything real, here, or just complaining?
3. are they aware that their "activism" is going to result in who knows how many deaths from the us military as has happened in iraq afganistan libya.
4. why does their understanding of world events remind me of an elementary school student exposed to too much propaganda?
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
18 Mar 12 UTC
points dont matter gr does
Discuss?
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Barn3tt (41969 D)
19 Mar 12 UTC
Silence! I kill you.-2 EOG
.....
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C-K (2037 D)
18 Mar 12 UTC
WTF!
gameID=83522

Why in the world did England draw this game here. Russia and Italy could have been eliminated and probably France as well without much difficulty. It was bad enough that Italy continued to attack me the whole game instead of stopping Turkey but this ending was enough to make me spit. I fought off both and for nothing. Worst game I've ever been in.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
17 Mar 12 UTC
Happy St. Plastered, er, Patrick's Day!
So, to commemorate the occasion...everyone, raise a glass--

And say what you most prefer to fill it with--favorite drinks/cocktails, everyone?
:)
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therhat (104 D)
18 Mar 12 UTC
Justin Bieber: Gay or Straight
Please discuss, I can neither confirm or deny my opinions until this has over fifty replies.
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therhat (104 D)
19 Mar 12 UTC
Michael Jackson: Black or White
Please discuss the topic. I can neither confirm nor deny my opinion until this has fifty replies.
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