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Sargmacher (0 DX)
04 Nov 11 UTC
One More Needed 800 D
One More Needed: gameID=71225
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indianajones (1482 D)
04 Nov 11 UTC
Diplomacy points
Can you run out of Diplomacy points? If so, then can you create an other account?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
03 Nov 11 UTC
Gunboat means....
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Ges (292 D)
03 Nov 11 UTC
Anonymous WTA Gunboat, WorldDip, 24hr, 10 Dip buy-in
gameID=71217
7 players needed, 3 days left
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Jacob (2466 D)
01 Nov 11 UTC
How to Get People to do What YOU Want
Diplomats fall into different categories or archetypes. Some are bossy and curmudgeonly. Some are vague and try to stay neutral toward everybody. Some are pushovers (the best allies of course!). And some are true diplomats. There is a lot to say on this topic and I hope to get a lot of participation in this thread, but I'd like to start with a couple pointers that have served me well:
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
01 Nov 11 UTC
Veteren World Diplomacy
They say it can't be done, I beg to differ
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tomob1 (183 D)
04 Nov 11 UTC
New Gunboat
Hi, I'm feeling bored and up for a quick game of diplomacy. 5 min phase. Here's the link if anyone wants to join: gameID=71448. (sorry if I shouldn't be posting this as a thread).
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
02 Nov 11 UTC
Luck in diplomacy.
I found a case of luck. In gunboat, you have 2 SCs open, and can move to one, the opponent can as well. You will either get in one or bounce. 50-50 chance of each. Luck is involved.
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Yonni (136 D(S))
01 Nov 11 UTC
Homeopathy
So, yesterday's xkcd (http://xkcd.com/971/) prompted me to post this
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
03 Nov 11 UTC
American Delusion
Discussing the hstoric propensity of Americans to wrongly assume others want to be like us.
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bc2000 (990 D)
03 Nov 11 UTC
NEW GAME: Classic Map - 202 bet - 4 days turn.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=71417
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Jacob (2466 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
Out-Guessing Your Opponent
Oftentimes you are presented with difficult tactical decisions. Consider a move where you could take a SC two different ways. Your opponent can defend against either move successfully, but not both. Which move do you choose?
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
30 Oct 11 UTC
I miss King Atom
Now that he's gone, I kind of miss him. Though his comments were often inane and nonsensical, there was a sort of clarity of thought to them that, in retrospect... I really respect. You might even call it a kind of genius? Come back to us, KA!
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
01 Nov 11 UTC
Anyone has a beta key or account for Diablo 3 that they are willing to share?
Anyone?
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Putin33 (111 D)
27 Oct 11 UTC
Police crack skull of Iraq war veteran
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-action-in-oakland-atlanta-camps-removal-unnerves-some-anti-wall-street-protesters/2011/10/27/gIQA5BpNLM_story.html
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krellin (80 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
Yeah, Santa....because apparently he was actually a robot and his neck is incapable of moving. It's not possible AT ALL that he was looking up, that his head was in any other position than perfectly level, YOU FUCKING IDIOT. Good God....how fucking stupid are you....
Putin - given the case that you were a police officer and were ordered to disperse a crowd, and they don't listen to verbal orders, what would you do? I just want to hear an alternative other than "they have the right to stay." In the individual police officer's sense, there is a task: clear the square/park/street/whatever. How do you do it if they won't listen to orders.

@krellin - quick note. Equity does not necessarily mean an equal distribution of resources, but rather a fair distribution of resources. Fair does not mean equal.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
27 Oct 11 UTC
"I'm really not surprised people like Tom and Krellin applaud the police for shooting a tear gas cannister at someone's head, and then firing rubber bullets on the crowd who was trying to help him and get him medical care. You guys are real men, I tell you."


You are such a fucking liar Putin. Makes me sick. Please bring up where I said any of that.
Is it possible, yes, probable that you look up in the air as a phalanx of police are bearing down on you, no. Also improbable that a projectile softly lofted through the air would crack someones skull unless it was chucked from the top of a building.
And @SC - it actually doesn't matter where it hit him, because it is physically possible for it to hit him anywhere. Angles, though, are where the truth will be told
this is the same town where law enforcement sat on a non resisting subway riders back and shot him on video tape.
it fractured his skull... something is telling me whatever hit him came at him pretty directly and with some force...
krellin (80 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
Santa -- basic physics, retard. If the object has enough force to crack his skullif fired directly at him....then the same object, after sailing UP in the air and losing kenetic energy, will then REGAIN ALL that kenetic energy on the way down again. Very basic physics.

Come to my house and we will do an expirement. I will throw a rock directly at your face....and then I will throw one up into the air so that is flies up high and then lands directly on your upturned face....you will tell me which hurts worse.

And...WHY would someone look up? Because he's a beliigerent protestor watching the shit fly through the air during a riot. People are throwing shit at the police, etc, so he looked up. What the hellis so difficult to understand about that?

As for Putin...when did I *EVER* applaud the police for "shooting a cannister at someone's head"? In fact, I deny the claim that anything was ever shot at someone's head.

PUTIN = LIAR because he has no rational argument, and has just turned into a lying insult machine. It's pathetic.
krellin (80 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
@goldfinger -- The protestors are asking for fairness....which in their mind is an equal distribution of wealth. OK....fine. To them, the idea that somebody has a Doctorate in finance does not and should not allow them to make more money...everyone should have the same amount of money. They demand a guaranteed wage, even if you do not work. So....they don't REALLY want "Fairness"....they want to be "Equal"....so....equal in wealth....so define wealth.

Wealth is....my money, my home, my cars, my cell phone, my computers.....
In the abstract, my wealth is....my kids and family, my person (race, height, weight, health..)

If you are looking for "fairness"....which they really define as "wealth"...then somebody actually give a *specific* plan as to how to achieve the goal of "fairness",....which we all know, to these idiots, means EQUAL WEALTH without having to do the work to achieve it.
sure give me the address
krellin (80 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
Give me your address and I'll put a $100 reward on the internet for someone to come to you, videotape the expirement and put it up on YouTube. And I'm DEAD SERIOUS. I don't trust you *at all*....and therefore would never give you my address. But if you want to do the expirement, I will SURELY find a surrogate. If you want, just give me City and State...and then give me the name of a local park, and I will find SOMEBODY on the internet willing to throw a rock at you directly, and through the air, and videotape it for YouTube. There's $100 bucks in it for someone.
krellin (80 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
Before you agree, dumbass....you had best consult someone knowledgeable about physics.....though I *cherish* the idea of seeing the video evidence of you getting your face smashed not ONCE...but TWICE....by a rock in the name of you trying to support leftist protestors! lol Too funny.

Anyway....don't be a coward, Santa. Take a rock or two in the face for your commie buddy Putin.
@krellin - You're neglecting air friction and the correlating surface area of the projectile, which would cause a loss of energy. I haven't paid too much attention to this all, but if they're asking for equality, then you're right, but for fairness, I'm afraid you're wrong
Fasces349 (0 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
"That's probably the opposite in Greece.
The top 1% currently pay 17% of taxes and earn 40 % of the income :p
Money goes to money."
I'd doubt that. First 72% of people in Greece don't pay tax, meaning those in the upper class (like you) have more of the burden.
Second income inequality in Greece is far lower then in the states.

This also contradicts your earlier arguement about how you, having to pay 50% of you income in taxes, are taxed to much...

Get your facts straight and don't use 2 fictional facts that contradict eachother to support your claims. Otherwise stfu and stop complaining.

"the problem is that it's not about the government saving the people in Greece but the people saving the government at cost of the people, it's hard to solve this problem however, even if the government finally listened... so i'd say forget the government, a modern Anarchy for a while, that'll be the situation now without riots or taxes, then there comes a new government that can't be accused of not paying back it's debts because that was the old government, if needed you change the name, call it Greekland or something like that, then the new government can help the other countries to stay strong, anyone has a more realistic solution??"
The government is a representation of the people, meaning that the debt owned by the government is the debt collectively owned by all greeks.

Your statement is as retarded as saying cause Obama is a democrat the debt incurred during the bush administration is irrelevant to the public debt as now the democrats, not republicans are in power.

The fact is that money was borrowed by the Greeks, and someone has to pay it. You can't take out a 470 billion euro loan and expect nobody to have to pay it back.

"@Fasces - I heard 25%, but still that doesn't refute your argument."`
The economist said 40% back in their hunting the rich article. But it could depend on how you define a tax (state vs federal for example).

"I say a flat income tax of 30-40% is needed"`
I WAS a supporter of 9-9-9 before Cain added deductions. Its a perfect example of the Laffer curve, as 9-9-9 would lower taxes (35% corporate vs 9% and 0-34% income vs 9%) but increase revenue due to the added confidence in the economy.

I also think taxes shouldn`t be done on an individual basis, but basically the corporation takes it out of your pay check and it becomes a EIT payable account. It would work exactly like the GST in Canada but on income rather then spending. I think if the tax rate was just 9-9-9 and nothing else, then that would be a great tax policy. However Cains deductions ruined it.

"They were not firing at the man, and they were not aiming at the people because they were helping someone who was hurt, they were shooting to disperse a crowd that had created unsafe conditions for other people. I wonder if these idiots in big cities like New York consider how many 911 calls may go unanswered because the police need half their force to control the crowds from injuring people trying to make the economy function. But, no they are only concerned with their own problems. Interesting how there are tons more unemployed people then there are protesters, I wonder what those other people are doing...maybe trying to make a living and find a job instead of wasting emergency response units valuable time."
+1 JMO

"It wasn't a riot dipshit. It was a peaceful gathering that the police escalated into a street battle because the mayor wants to act 'tough'. "
Proof? Your picture video looked like a street battle...

reading the rest later
krellin (80 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
@Gold -- I'm not neglecting air friction, etc. Trust me, buddy, if I shoot a cannister directly into your face....or launch one on a high arc which then hits you in the face...to you, the difference will be negligible. I grasp terminal velocity and all that....

As for "equality" vs. "fairness"....just watch a few interviews with the idiot protestors. Listen to some of their random demands. They want to be GIVEN what they have not earned...they want to TAKE from others...and WHEN will they stop taking? When people are equal, and then THAT will be fair. There is not difference between the terminology *to the protestors*. Fair IS equal to the hippies in the park....OH....that is....until HOMELESS people show up....

http://www.wlwt.com/news/29545827/detail.html


LOL!!!! I LOVE THIS!!! Stupid "99%" don't like it when their priveledged-white-kid protest gets invaded by TRUE "99 Percenters..." the true disenfranchised....

Does hypocrisy have no bounds with these people?
Tolstoy (1962 D)
27 Oct 11 UTC
"this is the same town where law enforcement sat on a non resisting subway riders back and shot him on video tape."

In fairness, that was a completely different law enforcement agency (Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) has its own police force). Oakland PD is (I believe) still under a federal consent decree stemming from other incidents, however.
krellin (80 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
SHOCKING!!! Occupy protests don't have a lot of colored folk....looks more like privedged white kids that actually have enough money to camp in a park for extended periods --- which kind of makes them stupid and hypocritical....

http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/26/color-us-shocked-protesters-worry-the-99-percent-are-light-on-diversity/
Well now that you decided to be inhospitable I will have to decline...
Putin33 (111 D)
27 Oct 11 UTC
"You are such a fucking liar Putin. Makes me sick. Please bring up where I said any of that."

Tom, stop playing games. You +1'd Krellin's post, which said the following: "He was in a crowd breaking the law and suffered the consequenced of civil disobediance....you know, the rule of law, the thing he (in theory) fought for. I don't think veteran status grants anybody the right to violate the law...and if he got cracked in the head while resisting police, too bad."

I didn't lie. Perhaps you have amnesia and forgot what you said, and think that +1 means something other than agreement. I don't care.



Putin33 (111 D)
27 Oct 11 UTC
I do enjoy how matter of factly mentioning that the injured protester is a veteran sends conservative into a conniption of rage. Why we can't we mention that he's a veteran? Because you want to portray every protester as unemployed potheads?
Draugnar (0 DX)
27 Oct 11 UTC
@Gold, there are plenty of recorded cases of people being killed by their own bullets after shooting them up into the air in celebration. Krellin is correct that even with terminal velocity and air friction, the difference in a projectile of any type is negligible on the return trip.

As far as looking up... A tear gas canister leaves a trail behind it. so it may well have gotten his attention, but then he had no where to go to avoid it as it came back down.
Putin33 (111 D)
27 Oct 11 UTC
" In the individual police officer's sense, there is a task: clear the square/park/street/whatever. How do you do it if they won't listen to orders."

Goldfinger, unfortunately for you these occupations are happening in cities across the country, and none of the police behaved this barbarically except in Oakland. They've done mass arrests, they've relocated people to other public places. You're providing a false choice between unprovoked escalation and doing nothing.
hellalt (40 D)
28 Oct 11 UTC
"That's probably the opposite in Greece.
The top 1% currently pay 17% of taxes and earn 40 % of the income :p
Money goes to money."
I'd doubt that. First 72% of people in Greece don't pay tax, meaning those in the upper class (like you) have more of the burden.
Second income inequality in Greece is far lower then in the states.
This also contradicts your earlier arguement about how you, having to pay 50% of you income in taxes, are taxed to much...
Get your facts straight and don't use 2 fictional facts that contradict eachother to support your claims. Otherwise stfu and stop complaining. "

fasces you are a fucking idiot, aren't you?
1. How to you know that 72% of the Greeks don't pay taxes? Is there some kind of research on that? Or maybe it suits you to believe so?
2. Inequality in Greece is lower than USA because everyone is starving here. I never said the opposite. Learn to read dumbass.
3. Paying 50% of your income for taxes is way too much even for Scandinavia. Why should I have to pay that much when there is no social contributions in return? Just to pay the German assholes that fucked up my country in WWII and now they dare ask for the debt back? No debt back morons, have my cock...
4. I am the upper class??? with 1700 euros salary ??? You must be living in Namibia or something...
5. My arguments are not contradictory. You just lack the basic ability of reading and thinking. Go back to kindergarten.
6. Speak for your own country and let others speak for their. Just because you are in some American college doesn't mean you know everything about world economy you prick...
largeham (149 D)
28 Oct 11 UTC
5 bucks says if this happened at a Tea Party rally, the media would nuts over this, demanding the heads of the officers involved.
Putin33 (111 D)
28 Oct 11 UTC
and calling for "second amendment remedies".
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
28 Oct 11 UTC
Okay Putin, I'm curious, please explain what these protesters are trying to accomplish and how you think the public at large should react to them. Should there be a police presence at these protests at all? How are these protests going to bring about change, and what specific change are they even looking to bring about. I haven't heard these questions answered by someone who supports the movements so I would legitimately appreciate an answer.
Putin33 (111 D)
28 Oct 11 UTC
This has been answered multiple times. If I answer again some other supporter of police brutality will just continue with the same taunts.

The chance they are seeking to bring about is a cultural one. They are looking to build a movement for the long haul, not just become a prop of a political party who will then proceed to ignore them once everyone goes home. They have already changed the conversation about the economy. Before OWS there was constant talk about cutting our way out of the recession, which is pretty much a surefire way to go into a depression. Now the conversation is about economic inequality and how people have screwed over while the richest keep getting richer. Now it's about Citizens United and the corrupt influx of corporate money in politics. Now it's about the total war on workers rights and labor unions. The conversation has completely shifted.

OWS is seeking to build a permanent structure of direct citizen involvement in the political process. It is not aimed at band-aid reforms since our institutions are fundamentally impervious to reform as we've seen since the Republicans block any effort to make substantial change despite being in the minority from 2009-2010.

krellin (80 DX)
28 Oct 11 UTC
@Putin --- You are STILL A FUCKING LIAR...one who has WILLFULLY and PURPOSELY twisted other's words. I stated that the protestors suffered the legitimate consequences of their willful civil disobedience. Does that mean that I am happy that someone was injured? NO! In fact, I would rather a war veteran have the common sense to OBEY THE LAW.

But....once an asshole decides that he must WILLFULLY disobey a police order, even under the threat of the OBVIOUS RIOT POLICE WITH THEIR SHILEDS AND TEAR-GAS GUNS, then if he happens to get injured in the impending conflinct, then he is an asshole and has rightly deserved his injuries.

If YOU, Putin, decide to DISOBEY traffic laws and decide to walk across the street AGAINST THE RED LIGHT and you then get hit by a car....it is YOUR FAULT, not the driver, because YOU were violating the law.

Is this too much logic for you to grasp, dickhead?

I don't advocate anybody getting intentioanlly injured. But I also have enough common sense to understand that some people willfully put themselves into dangerous situations where injury is probable....such as a WAR VETERAN willfully standing in the street while tear gas cannisters are fired into the air. Clearly this "veteran" was behind the lines, and never suffered enemy fire, or he would have been a little smarter than this....just my conjecture.

As for you "second amendmet remedies"....what? You think the occupy protestors should take up arms? Or are you saying that the police should not be armed? What a stupid fucking comment that is.

By the way, Putin, your fucking pussy - I'm still waiting for your response to my question of your BLATANT HYPOCRISY: Why do you love Communism, which is known historically in EVERY instance of it's existence as a government to use violent force to enforce it's ideology the citizens.,...but then suggest it is wrong for our government to use violent force to enforce it's ideology? Why is YOUR Communist-government violent force better than the legal force used by police?

ANSWER THE QUESTION YOU STUPID PUSSY!
krellin (80 DX)
28 Oct 11 UTC
Did ANYBODY see ANY specific action in Putin's "explanation" of the OWS movement? OF COURSE NOT!!!! It is broad generalizations, but NEVER, EVER, EVER any specific legislation or government reforms. Just a bunch of idiots screaming for a Utopian dream where they don't have to do any work, but get everything they want.....as in, "We demand a living wage....even if we don't have a job." "We demand a free education....even if we never intend to get a job....because we demnaded a living wage even if we don't have a job." "We demand free health care....even if there is nobody to pay for it....because we took all the government's moeny to get our free education and pay us our free wage because we never got a job" "We demand a TRILLION dollars to repair the environment.....but we won't get jobs and donate the money to the cause ourselves, because we demanded a free education and a free wage even if we don't get jobs."

THAT sums up the demands of OWS as I understand them.

DEFEND THAT, PUTIN. Oh....you can't???? PUSSY.
krellin (80 DX)
28 Oct 11 UTC
Does anybody else here realize that Putin has ZERO arguments? Raise your hand....

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Putin33 (111 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
Cain is done
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/noquarter/state-firms-cash-to-herman-cain-may-breach-federal-campaign-tax-laws-132898423.html
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ILN (100 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
Ingenious bottle light
Ingenious 3rd world solution for a 3rd world problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBWi3NtND68
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ILN (100 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
Moscow-armenia
can a ship build in moscow go to armenia?
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N.N. (100 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
Join the Game, They Said
gameID=71352 - everyone determined to submit orders in time and not to leave in the first turn just 'cause Austria sucks - is welcome to join the game. However, volunteers from the late "Why so Anonymous?" game are most likely to be given priority (pacta sunt servanda). But I think we will have some free seats.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
01 Nov 11 UTC
anyone going to carnage?
The 2011 DipCon will be hosted by the Carnage game convention at the Lake Morey Resort in Fairlee, Vermont.
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Chester (0 DX)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Mais um jogo em Português
Depois de o primeiro jogo ter corrido muito bem quem está comigo para jogarmos mais um jogo em português?
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Sicarius (673 D)
31 Oct 11 UTC
Political Views Are Reflected in Brain Structure
via science daily.

thoughts?
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
02 Nov 11 UTC
My 700th post.
Well, I've ben here less than 2 months and am already in the 700 club! Wow!
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Victorious (768 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
unsportive behaviour
@ Splitdiplomat userID=36887 to withdraw your draw vote seconds before a CD while the rest also votes draw, only because you came out of the turn well is very unsportive behaviour (at least in my eyes).
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
02 Nov 11 UTC
help
I filtered my frequency too sharply, and now my gibbs is ringing. Please advise.
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jman (199 D)
01 Nov 11 UTC
Points per SC
hey do you get more points if you end with more than 18 SCs?
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fabiobaq (444 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
Should I be suspicious? Multi theoretical question
When a player enter orders not to move during two turns, and then CD, just in time for another player to encircle him and grasp all of his centers, should I be suspicious of multi or that's the kind of thing that happens all the time?

Of course I won't point to any specific game, as I wouldn't want to make cheating accusations in the forum. All I want is your oppinion as wether I should bother the mods should that occurr or it's a common situation.
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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
30 Oct 11 UTC
Anyone here a star trek fan and would like to play a game entirely in klingon?
We could play in klingon if anyone finds a good online translator. What fun it would be!
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principians (881 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
what do you think...
about this http://www.fpif.org/articles/why_the_us_supports_israel?
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Geofram (130 D(B))
01 Nov 11 UTC
Battlefield 3 PC
Anyone grab it? By far my favourite shooter since COD4. We should make a WebDip squad. My handle: NR_Geofram
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