Ah. well, my post would've fit better if I made it between your two posts. X_X

That's to Thucydides, I don't really have an opinion on gay adoptions.

Also, I will support an end to sexual reproduction when we can advance to artificially conceived brain-jar robots seeking to conquer the universe.

Of course, then the generic action hero stopping us will probably end up having sexual relationships and screw us all up.
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"I'll oppose gay people kissing and holdings hands in public when straight people stop as well."

Yeah and what about posting on board game forums?
See any straight people doing that?

There was a similar thread a while ago on Facebook diplomacy, a lesbian woman with a nice profile pic started it and there were fewer negative comments :-o

*Looks above in the thread*

Yes.

(That was directed to lazysummer)

Ridiculously off topic here, but is it even possible to permanently get rid of a Facebook Diplomacy account? I've removed it several times, but it always still has my information. I don't want all these people who I'm not even tangentially in contact with seeing my profile.

They didn't create this self-worshiping forum topic. Some gay guy/girl did.

p.s. I am totally cool with gays. It's a free country. You could marry a sheep and I'd be okay with it.

Why do you feel the need to announce your sexuality on a gaming forum?

I just think it's childish and utterly vain.

And yet, a ton of people who were not gay decided to pop in just to inform us, "It's okay, everyone! I'm straight, too! Really!"

Invictus; you should be able to set privacy settings which disable people who aren't friends seeing your account, in fact it should be enabled by default. Other than the number of points you have there's not much info anyone can get from a Facebook phpDip profile

Well, if you're going to take that view, why announce our age, gender, or religion in those other threads?

(Again, that was for lazysummer, naturally)

Thanks, it just creeped me out that it remembered.

People have every right to say that they're gay. We just shouldn't be expected to listen or care. If it irritates you then just treat it with silence. Pull a Coolidge.

No the age, gender, religion topics weren't made out of self-pride they were made for information gathering. This topic is an ego-stroke.

Again I'm totally cool with gays. I'm aware lots of gays don't like to publicize their sexuality because in their words, "who cares?".

Anyway that was my 2 cents. Cheers.

Well, the way I see it, this is also, to some degree, information-gathering. I saw it as a question of what portion of the phpdiplomacy community is homosexual, as with the male-female topic was a question of what portion of the community has which proportion of chromosomes.

I completely agree with everything Pandarsenic has mentioned in this forum and he has pulled the words out of my mouth in regards to responding to all of Lazysummer's comments.

After viewing all the questions regarding age, sex, and, religion; I became curious to know how much of the gay diplomacy population was out there. It wasn't to have an ego-stroke you dummy =) , it was meant to observe demographics. I agree with wise Inivtus in regards to silence being golden, especially when people are trying to have supportive conversations.

but then again, why should homosexuals, feminists, or any under-represented inviduals for that matter be silent. Ignoring groups is what leads to many social problems. This is why under-represented groups have had to shout and scream in order to let the majority know that "hey, we are here too, don't forget about us". Women would have not have gained the right to vote if they just sat down in the kitchen table knitting, hoping that one day a man would say, hey lets let our wives vote. Racism from the very beginning of our history which includes african americans, irish, eastern europeans, and so forth would not have gained an equal ground in our laws if they did not speak and made themselves known. Ignorance is bad and this is why it should be eliminated by informing others. Many under-represented groups hide within their nitches hoping that one day all of these reppresion will go away, but they find out that day never comes. then it takes the few brave at heart to face the majority crowd and to tell them that "hey, it does matter!"

I'm for gay marriage, and gays adopting children and all that.

Re: The theory that humans are naturally bisexual but social pressures make us heterosexual. Those wacky psychologists think they can completely ignore evolution? If evolution makes anything happen it makes us reproduce... it's not social tendencies that shape heterosexuality, it's evolutionary imperative. With that said, that doesn't mean there's no room for homosexuality in evolutionary theory.

"Actually, Thucydides, I would say if there was not opposition to gays adopting, a healthy gay population would be evolutionarily beneficial because they could care for abandoned or orphaned children."

This is a good try, but it questionably argues that there is group selection in evolution. Homosexuals wouldn't confer an evolutionary advantage if they took care of just anyone's child. It would confer the advantage if they took care of their relatives' children so that genetic predisposition to homosexuality, if it's genetic, would be passed on through the child. This is backed by a study I read that showed that younger male siblings are more likely to be homosexual, indicating that as one mother has more and more sons, the more likely one or more of these sons will be homosexual and will be in a position to care for the other sons and their offspring. At least that's the theory of why homosexuality persistently arises. Of course, that shouldn't lead to value judgements...

Here in Canada, gays are fairly well accepted. The real issue I see here is transexuals. I don't think they get nearly as much respect, acceptance, or even just tolerance as gays. When a drag queen walks around downtown Toronto, everyone stares, and a few people laugh and point, or just chuckle. It's terrible. There's not enough awareness, and I think they're overshadowed with all the gay and lesbian issues, when in the end it's all the same issue of gender divisions.

I'm saying that gay adoption would help a population as a whole if it was equal opportunity. A community that produces gays, in general, could cope better with loss of other adults. Thus, that population as a whole would have an advantage over one that produced fewer gays as a whole.

Of course, this is all speculation, so....

Also, it naturally would not be equal-opportunity.

i always liked the idea that rising levels of homosexuality in modern society could be the ecosystem working in tandem with evolution to control population numbers and density.

and as a logical straight male i cant understand why other straight males have problems with gay men. surely the more gay men there are the less competition we have for the women?

It's perfectly okay for gay people to announce their sexuality - or not mention their sexuality on a forum or any where else. It's not offensive in any way whatsoever. It is a natural part of life.

I remember seeing a tv interview with a retired British Amry general about his opinion on letting gays join the army he said he was fine with it "so long as it was not compulsory". The way he said it gave me a chuckle.

Sean I seriously doubt that the levels of homosexuality in society is rising. More likely the levels have remained the same, is just that it is more acceptable these days (in Western culture, at least)and gay people can be open about it. With regards to population, I would say the impact of contraception is far greater than a small minority opting out of reproduction.

... that is a small gay minority. Obviously all those using contraception are opting out too (for as long as they use contraception).

Well, for starters, I didn't reply in this topic to garner attention.
Palpatine started this tpic, and as it was directly adressing me, I simply replied to it, in a cheerful joking manner.

I find it very irritating that this topic turned into some sort of shitfest.
The topic of this thread is "Are there any gay-gamers here"
If you are posting here to announce that you are not gay, or to announce that you do not support homosexuality, then you are posting off-topic

Your commenst are unrelated and not what palpatine asked for, and thus, the one who wants attention the most are the ones who post here unrelated to the topic.

And now, even if you do not support it, I am going to kiss my girlfriend, because I genuinely love her, and there is nothing you can do about it.
So please, continue raging and fuming and trying to find scientific arguements about the topic, it only makes me feel even more content when I am with her.

By that logic your post is off-topic too. It's okay for threads to drift off-topic occasionally. Isn't it?