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David E. Cohen (100 D)
24 Jan 18 UTC
New Variant: Dawn of the Enlightenment
It is on a temporary homepage, http://davidecohen.wixsite.com/diplomiscellany, since I am having a bit of trouble editing my main website. Please take a look. I would love to get comments, suggestions and criticism.
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leon1122 (190 D)
14 Jan 18 UTC
Interesting Subject
This is an interesting subject. Please discuss.
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joshaj8 (100 D)
10 Jan 18 UTC
Playing with less than 7?
Does anyone know if we are able to play a game with less than 7 people? And if we can, does anyone know how we go about doing that? Our current game will only start if we have 7.

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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
23 Nov 17 UTC
Ashes Test Cricket
Hoorah !!! England's Cricket Team is in Australia for the Ashes Test Cricket Series
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Jamiet99uk (898 D)
03 Dec 17 UTC
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MAFIA XXXIII ~ CALL OF THE WEST ~ GAME THREAD
((Please do not post in this thread unless you are a participant in the game))
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toms (0 DX)
03 Jan 18 UTC
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Buy high Quality Passports,Driver’s License,ID Cards,Visas. online
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
20 Oct 17 UTC
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Study Group - Fall 2017
Fall 2017 Study Group Lecture and Discussion Thread. This semester will be taught by Professors Tom Bombadil and StackelbergFollower.
gameID=208608
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
18 Oct 17 UTC
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School of War - Fall 2017
Fall 2017 School of War Lecture and Discussion Thread. This semester will be taught by Professors ckroberts, eturnage, and Djantani.
gameID=208533
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datapolitical (100 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Sunday morning/early afternoon live game
Who's up for a Sunday morning (10AM PST/1PM EST) live game?
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JamesYanik (548 D)
31 Dec 17 UTC
so does the old forum still work
am I alone here?
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
14 Dec 17 UTC
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Alright, Brainbomb.
Are you ready for a poem I wrote at 3AM?
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Manwe Sulimo (325 D)
15 Dec 17 UTC
Star Wars episode 8
So, was I right? Is it awful?
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Like how they did in Episode VII?
IHaveCoffee (100 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
Luke dies



*Spoiler*
ND (879 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
I sent him a PM as well.
JamesYanik (548 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
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Star Wars has an intrinsic problem with wanting to be the underdog. All of the original trilogy was them being the underdogs in a resistance: that's fine, that was the premise, that was the story, that was that. The prequels did OK in the plot structure of rebuilding the clone wars: a basic fight between two fairly equal sides... but it was in all ways a prequel trilogy, and was by necessity limited.

but then episode 7 comes around. We know the rebels won in 6, we know the empire is on the run, not likely to recover any time soon... and what do we get in 7?

oh! the evil empire-like-people are back!

I mean come on folks, I would have much more loved to see the Republic restored, but make it where the resistance are the bad guys. That would have been interesting, that would be a pretty new direction in terms of movie tropes. I can see a Kylo Ren character being MUCH more interesting a world where the Jedi are a proud arrogant people, and because Ren isn't with them, he's naturally assumed to be a Sith. THAT could help his conflicted character arc, right now he's more of a whiny bitch, with no real reason to want to rule. I mean seriously, I look at Kylo, and I don't see the same kind of power hungry character I'd expect from a dictator.

Not only is it more reminiscent of modern day, and themes in our world now, because most terrorist factions are a small minority, having to hide from the world superpowers. that you can work with, and get people engaged in.

Maybe have it where the *good* guys decide to build a Death Star like device as a precautionary measure? make people nervous about who to be rooting for, but still have some basic moral divides? REALLY attack our conceptions of the universe we're in.

the original trilogy was so good because it occurred in a time when our very existence was at threat from the Soviet Union. the world war ii themes in the movie were also present (storm troopers - blitzkrieg) and the fear of fascism, domestic and abroad, was everywhere. they also had a redemption arc for Darth Vader: the ultimate bad guy! they tackled the tough questions, can you really be too far gone? what are you willing to sacrifice to win? and along with it they had (for the time) great effects, a wonderful cast, and also a lot of fun in production.

I'm worried if we keep recycling the themes over and over again, Star Wars is going to lose it's appeal. The Last Jedi hinted at some new things, but at the end of the day, it's the same divide as it was before: light vs dark, rebels vs fascists, evil vs good. I love the universe, but I want it to expand, grow, change.


eh. that's a bit of a rant. I'll go away now
Disney strikes again.
SeanW2021 (100 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
Bye
brainbomb (290 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
I fully agree Yanik
Star wars doesnt do a good job of mirroring or transcending todays world. But admittedly - star trek which used to transcend geopolitical situations is the same as star wars. Flashy special effects, young appealing actors, and lots of action - with none of the great plot that stories like the undiscovered country had (fall of klingons parallel to fall of soviet union), or the voyage home (eendangered species of whales)


Instead you get reboots, rehashings and retellings.
brainbomb (290 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
George Lucas was a pretty crqppy sci fi writer too. See the prequels.
dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
24 Dec 17 UTC
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I liked it... had a few unnecessary segments... but the producers of these movies DEFINE lore. Canon is what is in these films, not what fan-fiction has decided. (Go ahead and hate.)
ND (879 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
All of the Prequels were 1000x times better than the Last Jedi, but I did prefer Force Awakens to Episode 1 and 2 (not 3).
brainbomb (290 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
https://youtu.be/LDCjIjsZp_Y

Listen to this.
It will change your mind ND
@darg - I've never read any of the expanded universe stuff, or basically anything outside the movies and games. This clashes harshly with just that.
dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
24 Dec 17 UTC
@goldie... I am not counting the games. But I don't see how this clashes with the other films. Just an expansion/deeper understanding.
Durga (3609 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
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Saw the movie last night, it was enjoyable enough.
goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
25 Dec 17 UTC
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I'll PM you, darg.

But "enjoyable enough" is about my feelings after the initial anger wore off.
dargorygel (2596 DMod(G))
25 Dec 17 UTC
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I agree with your reasons, Goldfinger... I just have low expectations, maybe. I had fun with the group I went to the movie with. One of whom is named, "Finn." He is 8. It was fun watching him cheer.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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Guys. I just saw it. And it was

A M A Z I N G
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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For a while I didn’t understand all the “This is the best Star Wars” talk, but as it approached the end of the second act, it got to Empire Strikes Back levels of amazing and surpassed it.
brainbomb (290 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
I agreeeeeee
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
Yeah, no. This was the 5th best Star Wars film behind the original trilogy and Sith.
jmo1121109 (3812 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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It was terrible, with lazy story writing and plot holes all throughout it.
peterlund (1310 D(G))
26 Dec 17 UTC
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I saw this one today on IMAX format but it did not help much. The story was very weak. Not much happened. Cannot Disney afford to pay for descent script writers?
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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You’re all so horribly wrong. Great script. Story was fantastic. There weren’t plot holes unless you fell asleep. It’s like saying Dunkirk was riddled in plot holes.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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Rian Johnson saved this trilogy from being trying to appeal to base too much.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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There was only one point in the film that I felt the writing was a bit odd, and it was so early on and didn’t matter enough to the story for me to be particularly beat up about it.
ND (879 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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TrPrado must be trolling. Anyway, I actually agree with Peter and Jmo on something? How is this possible... ....
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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The smashing of things that were set up was thematically essential. Not getting what you expect was the major theme of the film, and it was executed amazingly. It’s the same theme as when Yoda was revealed to be the little green guy.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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A tweet I saw from a friend of mine:

“If you're mad because a movie isn't what you expected rather than what it is, You have no business giving movie reviews.”
I saw it today too. I liked it, but I felt it had some pacing and story structure problems.

Visually it was incredible. I've never seen such striking imagery and visual style in a Star Wars film.

Thematically it was solid. And I think it did have something to say, and ideas to examine, even though it steered clear of the kind of slightly on the nose social allegory that Sci-Fi often leans into.

Over all solid B or B+ movie, according to me.
TrPrado (461 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
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This movie was to Force Awakens EXACTLY what Empire was to the original film.

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brainbomb (290 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Western Meddling in Iranian Protests
So this is great and all. Encouraging protests and stuff. Um didnt this happen in Iran in Arab Spring too? When people start dying were gonna look pretty bad again. Like we encouraged a coup but didnt actually care about the consequences.
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
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Discord Chat
I've created a Discord Server to make it easier to coordinate future games and chat about ongoing ones (that allow press). I checked with one of the mods first to make sure it was okay to set up. Here's the link: https://discord.gg/5WpVw29
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ghug (5068 D(B))
12 Dec 17 UTC
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Thread for Nazis to Spew Racist Bullshit
Make sure not to test if emojis work though. *That's* against the rules.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
11 Dec 17 UTC
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Official webDip Holiday: On the first day of Xmas, my zultar gave to me
Joys, fun, and prizes inside, 2017 edition, 3rd annual holiday!
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damian (675 D)
05 Dec 17 UTC
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Century Leagues
The Full Press Tournament You've All Been Waiting For!

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datapolitical (100 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Fewer live classic games these days?
Looking back through the last couple months' completed games, it feels like there are far fewer Classic live games than there were a few years ago. Do other people have the same feeling?
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
08 Nov 17 UTC
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Winter 1v1 Champions League
The Champions League returns! See inside for details.
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datapolitical (100 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Best Picture
What movies have you seen this year, and which one do you think should win the best picture Oscar?
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CptMike (4457 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
GvI championships
Hi all. We have just finished a GvI championship between:
brkyzgn, CptMike, Denovian, Ezio and michaelf77
Germany won 10 times, Italy 9 times and a game ended with 1 draw.
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IHaveCoffee (100 D)
24 Dec 17 UTC
Ask random Questions
Is it true that fish can drown?
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xorxes (31128 D)
30 Dec 17 UTC
Championship Crown Game Series
Like the Championship Belt, but GvI instead of FvA.
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
26 Sep 17 UTC
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Championship Belt Game Series.
France v Austria .
Winner holds the Championship belt.Game id must be posted.
Only the winner creates next game.
How long can you hold the belt.
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brainbomb (290 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Exreme Winter over North America
Ive never experienced a December this cold in Nebraska. Temperatures were -7 F last night here. I guess in parts of Minnesota and North Dakota its like -26 F
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
Diplomacy AI
I know there was work done on this in years past; has there been anything recent?
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datapolitical (100 D)
28 Dec 17 UTC
Discord press game
Discordia http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213453 is a 48/hr turn game with Discord chat for press. It's invite only, so ask in the thread and I'll send you a link. Discord offers notifications and voice chat, which allows for faster comms.
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
26 Dec 17 UTC
Speed of Thought vs Speed of light.
Is thought faster than speed of light.
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
After Midnight (the turn ends) - 24 hour game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213473
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datapolitical (100 D)
29 Dec 17 UTC
FvA late night
Looking for a game? http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=213487
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